The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

Read to me like he wants better and being careful not to slag off a player he may end up with.

lordromford said:

superdulvertonred said:

Sounds to me that he may had been offered a contract but wants to play in the Championship!. Who knows what it is.

Bolton are in the championship though.

I believe he is talking about Martin, rather than Amos.

A few days old now but Bristol Rovers signed Adam Smith from Northampton on a free. Would have been a good signing for us if we can't get David Martin.

Scoham said:

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/07/11/deal-for-charlton-star-unlikely-as-blades-refuse-to-be-held-to-r/

How can they claim to be being held to ransome? They just could not afford or not wanted to afford him. No one asked them to come in for him. Indeed their intrest probably cost us.

I am struggling to think of the words.

Oh yeah.

Fuck off!

credit where credit is due. Keeping Holmes was key for me the squad is looking so much stronger then this time last year.

The bottom line is he is worth more to us than he is to them. if they'd valued him more highly than we do he'd have been moving.

I know we knock RD but the truth is that if he wants to he is financially able to turn down any and all offers for our players. This is not an endorsement for RD (or KM) but we have had a lot of owners, over the years, that have sold our best player because we needed the money and/or the deal was too good to turn down.

It's nice for us to be able to hold on to a player for a change - especially as it was a team in a higher division that was, clearly, trying to sign him.

luke1 said:

charltonbob said:

luke1 said:

Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

CARD haven't persuaded anyone to stay away & you have to be out of your fucking mind to suggest they have done more harm than the Belgians. I made a decision to boycott without anyone persuading me because like thousands of others I want to support a Charlton where the owners share my desire to see the team win matches not totally destroy the Charlton we used to know. When they're gone I'll be back to resume my 52 years of support.

Here we go again... This is kind of the problem. Anyone that doesn't like the way CARD handle themselves on these message forums will come up against irate fans telling them they must be out of their mind. It's an opinion. I think Douche bag and Meire are incompetent and have made far too many mistakes but i don't think they want the club to fail like some on here make out. I want them out, but not at the expense of the clubs future. We will never find a buyer if our gates dwindle down even further. Again some will disagree with me and i'll disagree with them. But I've been called prick of the week and now f*cking out of my mind for expressing an opinion. If you cant have an adult conversation without respecting everyone's views then message boards are probably not for you.

If you are such an expert, try using the right thread?



(joke)

luke1 said:

charltonbob said:

luke1 said:

Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

CARD haven't persuaded anyone to stay away & you have to be out of your fucking mind to suggest they have done more harm than the Belgians. I made a decision to boycott without anyone persuading me because like thousands of others I want to support a Charlton where the owners share my desire to see the team win matches not totally destroy the Charlton we used to know. When they're gone I'll be back to resume my 52 years of support.

Here we go again... This is kind of the problem. Anyone that doesn't like the way CARD handle themselves on these message forums will come up against irate fans telling them they must be out of their mind. It's an opinion. I think Douche bag and Meire are incompetent and have made far too many mistakes but i don't think they want the club to fail like some on here make out. I want them out, but not at the expense of the clubs future. We will never find a buyer if our gates dwindle down even further. Again some will disagree with me and i'll disagree with them. But I've been called prick of the week and now f*cking out of my mind for expressing an opinion. If you cant have an adult conversation without respecting everyone's views then message boards are probably not for you.

Just so you are aware I have nothing to do with card, but your initial point is IMHO ridiculous.

As far as I am concerned Roland and his crew are a cancer that needs cutting out of our club.

People make up their own mind on whether to go or not and CARD as far as I am aware have never told people not to attend, but why let the truth stand in the way of an argument.

Northstandpieeater said:

credit where credit is due. Keeping Holmes was key for me the squad is looking so much stronger then this time last year.

Sadly I have said this at least at the start of last season and I'm almost certain I said it the year before.

luke1 said:

charltonbob said:

luke1 said:

Nah I'm with Holmes, stop it. CARD has done more damage than Roland in my opinion. Roland won't be around forever but The fans CARD have pursuaded to stay away or fans fed up with match day protests might be lost forever. Not here for an argument, Just my opinion.

CARD haven't persuaded anyone to stay away & you have to be out of your fucking mind to suggest they have done more harm than the Belgians. I made a decision to boycott without anyone persuading me because like thousands of others I want to support a Charlton where the owners share my desire to see the team win matches not totally destroy the Charlton we used to know. When they're gone I'll be back to resume my 52 years of support.

Here we go again... This is kind of the problem. Anyone that doesn't like the way CARD handle themselves on these message forums will come up against irate fans telling them they must be out of their mind. It's an opinion. I think Douche bag and Meire are incompetent and have made far too many mistakes but i don't think they want the club to fail like some on here make out. I want them out, but not at the expense of the clubs future. We will never find a buyer if our gates dwindle down even further. Again some will disagree with me and i'll disagree with them. But I've been called prick of the week and now f*cking out of my mind for expressing an opinion. If you cant have an adult conversation without respecting everyone's views then message boards are probably not for you.

How do you know whether the posters you are talking about are part of CARD or not? It's very easy to attribute anything and everything you don't like to CARD - in fact few if any of the people disagreeing with you would claim to speak for CARD. They just disagree with you and whether that is put in terms that are reasonable or unreasonable isn't down to CARD at all.

For myself, I don't believe for a minute RD and Meire want the club to fail, I just think they are 1) clueless and 2) have another priority than winning, which is farming footballers. Of course they would like to get back to the Championship, but their ultimate priority is proving RD's bonkers ideas, to which he will revert at the first opportunity. The reason he never attends is because, as he told Powell and has repeated publicly at Sint-Truiden, his main priority isn't winning football matches.

I can't really afford to go to many matches at the minute but I made the decision to go to away matches only because I didn't want to put any money in RD's pocket.

I can make my own mind up and don't need CARD to do anything to sway that. As for CARD, don't agree with everything they have done but their intentions are clearly good.

Mods can you please keep this on topic - im fed up of seeing 70 new posts daily, which are mainly made up of dross and include no information pertaining to transfer rumours.

Greenie Junior said:

LargeAddick said:

superdulvertonred said:

I for one agree with you Luke. I understand the heart felt opinions aired on here which see everything related to the ownership is bad and agree that it is far from a happy arrangement and long for a decent responsible owner of the club. One who sees it as more than an experiment people who have an emotional as well as financial investment. BUT the club must improve or possibly perish from where we are at present, as Orient have. I want to see a successful team/club that I and my children and grandchildren can continue to support well into the future. People should be allowed to express their views without receiving often childish abuse from others on here. I firmly believe that all on CL want our club to do well but may have different ideas how that is achieved personally I believe there may be more than one solution.

but Luke's initial point was saying that CARD were encouraging fans to stay away, which they have never done, which implies that those staying away don't have a mind of their own and are unable to make decisions without help from CARD. Of course he, you, anyone can have an opinion but can't make assumptions about people's own decisions or state things as fact that are not.

To be fair i'm sure airman called for a season ticket boycott a few seasons ago so that might be the confusion. I respect what card have done over the last few seasons, I believe without cards demonstrations we'd still be signing shite like Anil Koc and Thuram, they've made the regime change their ethos which is great, but I think they're starting to go a bit off course now, like who the fuck actually cares what Katrien Meire earns and why do you care?

neither Airman or CARD have ever called for a season ticket boycott. FACT.

Why do you care if I care what KM earns?