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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,548

    iamdan said:

    Novak to Bury..

    We'd probably have to subsidise that.
    Bury have new rich owners i believe?
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    iamdan said:

    Novak to Bury..

    I'll drive him there myself & even pay for a meal on the way up too. Wont get more than half a dozen goals this season & not very good imo.

    As for Henry - Oxford is a lot closer to Reading than SE7 or SE9 (training ground) & we already have enough wingers & again, imo, Stewart is better. Also, he's ex 'wall.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846

    iamdan said:

    Novak to Bury..

    I'll drive him there myself & even pay for a meal on the way up too. Wont get more than half a dozen goals this season & not very good imo.

    As for Henry - Oxford is a lot closer to Reading than SE7 or SE9 (training ground) & we already have enough wingers & again, imo, Stewart is better. Also, he's ex 'wall.
    I bet Novak will be quickly decharltonised when he gets there
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    iamdan said:

    Novak to Bury..

    Good news. Too slow to be a loan striker for me. Maybe one of those that does better playing regularly at a smaller club rather than being a squad player for us.

    Didn't see the best of him though injuries didn't help. Couldn't help but be reminded of Pawel Abbott. Can't see him playing above League 1 again.
  • bolloxbolder
    bolloxbolder Posts: 7,960
    Would make sense with Lee Clark as manager.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,266
    Novak wasn't given a fair crack if you ask me
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    If Novak is going who is coming in Big Mac is the only striker we have that fits into Robinsons 4231 ?
  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,915
    I would like us to keep Novak. Thibk he will surprise a few people this year.

    Besides if we lose him we are desperately short of cover for Magennis. The is the only other striker we have that can fit the system.

    Perhaps we will try and get Mavididi
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675
    sam3110 said:

    Novak wasn't given a fair crack if you ask me

    I agree I would rather keep him than Ajose.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    iamdan said:

    Novak to Bury..

    I'll drive him there myself & even pay for a meal on the way up too. Wont get more than half a dozen goals this season & not very good imo.

    As for Henry - Oxford is a lot closer to Reading than SE7 or SE9 (training ground) & we already have enough wingers & again, imo, Stewart is better. Also, he's ex 'wall.
    you better take a few quid then.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    We offered him much bigger wages than another, then, league 1 south east London club so he will be on a tidy whack.

    I thought he did OK, not brilliant but OK, but like Ajose never really settled and the lack of a midfield often left him isolated.

    Met him at Bromley Addicks and he came over well and he certainly wasn't fat or carrying too much weight when you saw him close up.

    Makes sense to let him move on to save the big wages. Reeco Hackett-Fairchild is nearly ready for the lone striker role in any case.
  • OhEddieYouds
    OhEddieYouds Posts: 744
    sam3110 said:

    Novak wasn't good enough if you ask me

    Fixed it for you.

    Where has the Bury rumour come from anyway? Is there substance behind this or is the Bury link just a pure guess of a club that might be able to afford his wages now they're under new owners.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222

    sam3110 said:

    Novak wasn't good enough if you ask me

    Fixed it for you.

    Where has the Bury rumour come from anyway? Is there substance behind this or is the Bury link just a pure guess of a club that might be able to afford his wages now they're under new owners.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited July 2017
    Did we have room for him in the starting lineup here? Who would he have displaced? I saw him here if we lost Holmes but don't they play the same position?

  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835

    We offered him much bigger wages than another, then, league 1 south east London club so he will be on a tidy whack.

    I thought he did OK, not brilliant but OK, but like Ajose never really settled and the lack of a midfield often left him isolated.

    Met him at Bromley Addicks and he came over well and he certainly wasn't fat or carrying too much weight when you saw him close up.

    Makes sense to let him move on to save the big wages. Reeco Hackett-Fairchild is nearly ready for the lone striker role in any case.

    I think Reeco is going to go the same way as Zac Ansah.

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    dickplumb said:

    We offered him much bigger wages than another, then, league 1 south east London club so he will be on a tidy whack.

    I thought he did OK, not brilliant but OK, but like Ajose never really settled and the lack of a midfield often left him isolated.

    Met him at Bromley Addicks and he came over well and he certainly wasn't fat or carrying too much weight when you saw him close up.

    Makes sense to let him move on to save the big wages. Reeco Hackett-Fairchild is nearly ready for the lone striker role in any case.

    I think Reeco is going to go the same way as Zac Ansah.

    To the top?
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,266

    sam3110 said:

    Novak wasn't good enough if you ask me

    Fixed it for you.

    Where has the Bury rumour come from anyway? Is there substance behind this or is the Bury link just a pure guess of a club that might be able to afford his wages now they're under new owners.
    My writing didnt need fixing thanks, we never saw the best of him as we never played the way we should have done with him.

    He is more than good enough to be a squad player for us, please divulge who's available to is that would be much better?
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    edited July 2017
    I'm perfectly fine with Novak going although as others have said it does expose a lack of cover for Magennis.

    Novak was never going to fire us to promotion so if clearing his wages helps KR to bring in Mavididi on loan then it's good business for us.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    How many more years are we stuck with Watt's wages?
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725

    I'm perfectly fine with Novak going although as others have said it does expose a lack of cover for Magennis.

    Novak was never going to fire us to promotion so if clearing his wages helps KR to bring in Mavididi on loan then it's good business for us.

    Mavididi is a completely different type of player, he fits the quick, tricky winger mould. If we dump Novak we would need to bring in a target man type number 9 as back up to Magennis.
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675

    I'm perfectly fine with Novak going although as others have said it does expose a lack of cover for Magennis.

    Novak was never going to fire us to promotion so if clearing his wages helps KR to bring in Mavididi on loan then it's good business for us.

    Mavididi is a completely different type of player, he fits the quick, tricky winger mould. If we dump Novak we would need to bring in a target man type number 9 as back up to Magennis.
    Exactly. Novak is no world beater but he is the only cover we have for Josh in Robinson 's one up front formation.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,846
    If Novak goes, I assume KR has someone else he wants to bring in, who can play the lone striker role in his system.
  • I'm perfectly fine with Novak going although as others have said it does expose a lack of cover for Magennis.

    Novak was never going to fire us to promotion so if clearing his wages helps KR to bring in Mavididi on loan then it's good business for us.

    Mavididi is a completely different type of player, he fits the quick, tricky winger mould. If we dump Novak we would need to bring in a target man type number 9 as back up to Magennis.
    Exactly. Novak is no world beater but he is the only cover we have for Josh in Robinson 's one up front formation.
    Not strictly true - Hanlan and Umerah could probably have a go at doing it.

    Mind you, I'm not saying for a minute they would be good enough to do so on a regular basis.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,675

    I'm perfectly fine with Novak going although as others have said it does expose a lack of cover for Magennis.

    Novak was never going to fire us to promotion so if clearing his wages helps KR to bring in Mavididi on loan then it's good business for us.

    Mavididi is a completely different type of player, he fits the quick, tricky winger mould. If we dump Novak we would need to bring in a target man type number 9 as back up to Magennis.
    Exactly. Novak is no world beater but he is the only cover we have for Josh in Robinson 's one up front formation.
    Not strictly true - Hanlan and Umerah could probably have a go at doing it.

    Mind you, I'm not saying for a minute they would be good enough to do so on a regular basis.
    In a years time I would probably agree with you, but right now I'm not too sure
  • It was interesting that the 'Udders fans told us that Novak may not be a world beater but that he'll always give his all, Leedsbasedtownfan's exact words were actually 'If as I suspect you have a good season, Novak will be part of that and be a firm fans favourite due to his never say die attitude and 100% commitment'. I don't think we saw any of that last season and he looked really disinterested. His injuries, especially the broken hand at Welling, really seemed to disrupt him and he never got a run of games and goals. It's probably best for all parties he gets a clean break and Bury is the sort of club he might flourish at. It's a shame, because I thought he hinted at some real quality on occasion and could have been an asset for us this season as he'd be able to play that lone striker role.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,728
    He scored a good header against Chesterfield but was below average league one at best! Bury sounds like a decent club for him at this stage of his career.
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    They always leave us short in at least one part of the squad. We do have quite a few strikers at the moment but no one else that is proven as a back-up target man. If Novak goes with KR then want 4-5 or will it be like Slade where more go and the number of signings he says he wants diminishes to nothing?

  • CyrilDavies
    CyrilDavies Posts: 855
    Maybe he has not settled in the south?. Could that be part of the problem?.
    No doubt, Henry will know the answer.
  • OhEddieYouds
    OhEddieYouds Posts: 744
    sam3110 said:

    sam3110 said:

    Novak wasn't good enough if you ask me

    Fixed it for you.

    Where has the Bury rumour come from anyway? Is there substance behind this or is the Bury link just a pure guess of a club that might be able to afford his wages now they're under new owners.
    My writing didnt need fixing thanks, we never saw the best of him as we never played the way we should have done with him.

    He is more than good enough to be a squad player for us, please divulge who's available to is that would be much better?
    Fair enough Sam. We don't need to agree and your obviously entitled to your view.

    I personally don't rate him as I associate the likes of Novak and Ajose with our huge failure last season. We spent alot of our budget on those two but in my opinion they both disappointed enormously (and I think new starts would be good for both of them).

    In response to your question, I'd suggest Rochdale's Calvin Andrew or Rotherham's Clarke-Harris would be better competition for Magennis (and are likely to be obtainable for the same or less salary). Clarke-Harris looked good in the championship a couple of years ago and I expect will do well at this lower level now this season now he's older and has recovered from last year's injuries.

    Admittedly though there isn't obvious alternative options out there that have proven high goal scoring records. A replacement would therefore be a bit of a gamble but whoever we went for I'd be suprised if they contributed less than Novak last year. Other than the Chesterfield header I remember nothing from him.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,266
    I just think Ajose or Watt are the ones we should be offloading as they don't fit into the scheme whatsoever. I feel Novak would be able to play in a similar way to Magennis if called upon.

    The problem with signing another player, as we have seen so often, is they can look good elsewhere and shite for us if we play a different way to how they played