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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    OhEddieYouds said:

    sam3110 said:

    OhEddieYouds said:

    sam3110 said:

    Novak wasn't good enough if you ask me

    Fixed it for you.

    Where has the Bury rumour come from anyway? Is there substance behind this or is the Bury link just a pure guess of a club that might be able to afford his wages now they're under new owners.
    My writing didnt need fixing thanks, we never saw the best of him as we never played the way we should have done with him.

    He is more than good enough to be a squad player for us, please divulge who's available to is that would be much better?
    Fair enough Sam. We don't need to agree and your obviously entitled to your view.

    I personally don't rate him as I associate the likes of Novak and Ajose with our huge failure last season. We spent alot of our budget on those two but in my opinion they both disappointed enormously (and I think new starts would be good for both of them).

    In response to your question, I'd suggest Rochdale's Calvin Andrew or Rotherham's Clarke-Harris would be better competition for Magennis (and are likely to be obtainable for the same or less salary). Clarke-Harris looked good in the championship a couple of years ago and I expect will do well at this lower level now this season now he's older and has recovered from last year's injuries.

    Admittedly though there isn't obvious alternative options out there that have proven high goal scoring records. A replacement would therefore be a bit of a gamble but whoever we went for I'd be suprised if they contributed less than Novak last year. Other than the Chesterfield header I remember nothing from him.
    If a striker can hold the ball up, has pace, is hard working, decent in the air, can bring others into the game, and score goals regularly - chances are they don't play in League 1 and don't plan on it any time soon either.
  • uie2
    uie2 Posts: 4,596
    Sell them all apart from Holmes! ;)
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    uie2 said:

    Sell them all apart from Holmes! ;)

    I dont think even the scouse tactical genius would consider a 0-0-1-0 formation.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Good move if we can get Novaks wages completely off the books. He's on about 6k a week. Not sure any other L1 club would pay him that.
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,734
    Redhenry said:

    Good move if we can get Novaks wages completely off the books. He's on about 6k a week. Not sure any other L1 club would pay him that.

    Exactly.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    Redhenry said:

    Good move if we can get Novaks wages completely off the books. He's on about 6k a week. Not sure any other L1 club would pay him that.

    maybe not but he'd probably accept less with a longer contract or may take a pay off from us to compensate the wage difference. I'd heard the 6k pw was triple what he was on at Chesterfield. No wonder players are eager to sign for such a basket case of a Club.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    LargeAddick said:

    Redhenry said:

    Good move if we can get Novaks wages completely off the books. He's on about 6k a week. Not sure any other L1 club would pay him that.

    maybe not but he'd probably accept less with a longer contract or may take a pay off from us to compensate the wage difference. I'd heard the 6k pw was triple what he was on at Chesterfield. No wonder players are eager to sign for such a basket case of a Club.
    in the regime's defence (how dare me I know), he wasn't a bad signing based on his previous seasons form. I agree that his injured, particularly last pre-season, meant he started the season behind others in terms of fitness and form. Wouldn't be too bothered if he left, nor if he stayed as I think he could do ok.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Redhenry said:

    Good move if we can get Novaks wages completely off the books. He's on about 6k a week. Not sure any other L1 club would pay him that.

    18k a week on Tex and Novak yet Kermorgant was offered less than he was already earning after leading us to promotion and the brink of the Championship playoffs. Katrien Meire everyone.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    The Red Robin said:

    Redhenry said:

    Good move if we can get Novaks wages completely off the books. He's on about 6k a week. Not sure any other L1 club would pay him that.

    18k a week on Tex and Novak yet Kermorgant was offered less than he was already earning after leading us to promotion and the brink of the Championship playoffs. Katrien Meire everyone.
    This has been done to death but if you want to go on with it plse open another thread. Thank you.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    TBF Novak was one of Slades' top targets, other clubs were after him at the time. The club backed him, imagine the whingeing if he had gone to Southend who offered more.
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  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,677
    Well and experienced goalkeeper and Da Silva are an absolute must.
    Anyone else will be a bonus.
    I still think we are desperate to offload a couple to free up wages though.
  • CAFCBourne
    CAFCBourne Posts: 3,790
    MartinCAFC said:

    I'm perfectly fine with Novak going although as others have said it does expose a lack of cover for Magennis.

    Novak was never going to fire us to promotion so if clearing his wages helps KR to bring in Mavididi on loan then it's good business for us.

    All this we need Mavididi, he looked good not great and made 1 great run and now he is seen as the one we need.

    Novak was never fit from the start of last season. If he and mavididi were both fit and played the same number of games Lee would get more goals
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    i think Novak got one goal last season.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,318
    Redhenry said:

    i think Novak got one goal last season.

    Scored at least two... Away at Fleetwood to make it 2-2 and Chesterfield winner 1-0 at the Valley
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Redrobo said:

    The Red Robin said:

    Redhenry said:

    Good move if we can get Novaks wages completely off the books. He's on about 6k a week. Not sure any other L1 club would pay him that.

    18k a week on Tex and Novak yet Kermorgant was offered less than he was already earning after leading us to promotion and the brink of the Championship playoffs. Katrien Meire everyone.
    This has been done to death but if you want to go on with it plse open another thread. Thank you.
    Not sure how my comment is different to any other on this thread but I'll be sure to get my future posts approved by you first.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,012
    You just know that if we got rid of Novak, then Magennis will break his leg next game, leaving us with Ajose who can't play in that system.
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    Sell Tex and buy the university.
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    cafcfan1990 said:

    LargeAddick said:

    Redhenry said:

    Good move if we can get Novaks wages completely off the books. He's on about 6k a week. Not sure any other L1 club would pay him that.

    maybe not but he'd probably accept less with a longer contract or may take a pay off from us to compensate the wage difference. I'd heard the 6k pw was triple what he was on at Chesterfield. No wonder players are eager to sign for such a basket case of a Club.
    in the regime's defence (how dare me I know), he wasn't a bad signing based on his previous seasons form. I agree that his injured, particularly last pre-season, meant he started the season behind others in terms of fitness and form. Wouldn't be too bothered if he left, nor if he stayed as I think he could do ok.
    I agree to a point but its a classic case of lazy buying and not having any foundations set in place with a consistent either being the manager or a DOF and style like Soton and Swansea.

    What we get is someone thinking he is good we will sign him (Novak) he was top scorer last year (Ajose) without any thought to how the next manager wants to play etc.

    We have seen this with TD signings based on stats but also factor in the fact that no consideration as we know was given to character etc and the English leagues.
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  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    CyrilDavies said:

    Maybe he has not settled in the south?. Could that be part of the problem?.
    No doubt, Henry will know the answer.

    Perhaps he's got a touch of the old dale Stephens southitis
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    Interestingly enough we could do a little thread about Northern signings that have failed to settle

    Redfearn by far and away the biggest numpty in this bracket. Obviously the gravy down here is far too watery and the fact we don't have our 'tea' at 5pm really didn't sit with him
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    CyrilDavies said:

    Maybe he has not settled in the south?. Could that be part of the problem?.
    No doubt, Henry will know the answer.

    You are right @CyrilDavies RedHenry does know the answer
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    edited July 2017

    "Sheffield United met Charlton Athletic’s initial valuation of Ricky Holmes, The Star understands, only to be quoted an even higher price for the former Northampton Town winger. Sources in London last night claimed that United’s first offer, believed to be in the region of £400,000, matched the figure they had been told would trigger the 30-year-old’s release before Karl Robinson’s side demanded an even higher fee."

    Read more at: http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/football/sheffield-united/sheffield-united-charlton-athletic-raised-the-price-on-ricky-holmes-after-blades-made-their-bid-1-8646505?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

    Of course this is spin from their side just as there is spin from every club, including ours, on transfers. Remember KRs repeated rant about other clubs treating both MK and CAFC unfairly.

    Remember the golden rule.

    All players who sign, or re-sign, for you are progressing their careers and clearly making the right choice.

    All players who don't sign for you are greedy mercenaries and not that good anyway ; - )

    Bottom line is we kept Holmes which is, IMHO, a good thing.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,266
    The whole point of a release fee is you don't have to pay higher than that, so that's clearly bullshit
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,725
    sam3110 said:

    The whole point of a release fee is you don't have to pay higher than that, so that's clearly bullshit

    I don't think he meant a release clause per se, just that it would be enough to secure him.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    Not sure I'd believe much that comes out of a Northern rag with a name like that.

    Agreed with Henry it sounds like spin just to try and make it look like they did everything possible to try and sign Holmes.
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,310
    Watch Wilder bemoan in December that Utd are bottom of the league because that horrible Charlton wouldn't give him Holmes

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