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  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    I can't wait for the sequel. Would be great to find out what happened next.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,002
    Fiiish said:

    I can't wait for the sequel. Would be great to find out what happened next.

    Tom Hardy becomes a Kray (actually both Krays) :wink:
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    edited July 2017
    stonemuse said:

    Fiiish said:

    I can't wait for the sequel. Would be great to find out what happened next.

    Tom Hardy becomes a Kray (actually both Krays) :wink:
    Removed because i realised i posted a slight spoiler to dunkirk - but it was very, very funny.
  • Bournemouth Addick
    Bournemouth Addick Posts: 16,283
    edited July 2017
    Balls to the lot of you...I knew I should have kept my trap shut.

    :-)
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,235
    Saw Dunkirk in 2D IMAX yesterday. It was my first trip to the cinema in about three years. I couldn't believe it was 16quid a ticket!!!! I enjoyed the film but I think the imax experience helped. I don't know whether I enjoyed the soundtrack or not but the immersive deafening experience certainly added to the atmosphere. Right at the start of the film there is almost silence followed by a single gunshot that starts the action. Well I nearly shat myself! I thought someone had opened fire in the cinema! To be honest though, had I settled down to watch this at home on the telly, I might not have made it the whole way through although I did enjoy it at the cinema. I didn't find any of the acting or sub plots very inspirational and, like someone said before, I didn't quite get an idea of the overall scale/enormity of the events. A good afternoon out but not quite up to all the hype.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    my barber was today telling me all about 47 metres down .. sounds VERY fishy
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,126
    JiMMy 85 said:



    Your criticisms are based mostly on your own pre-determined expectations of what you thought you were seeing, or what you wanted to see. And this film wasn't supposed to provide that. It's like me going to see the Muppets and calling it shit because it wasn't Fraggle Rock.

    Maybe if Nolan has learned one thing from all this hullabaloo, it's that he could have pleased more people for more of the time by adding a simple, descriptive tag line to the title,

    Dunkirk: Dance your cares away
  • ken_shabby
    ken_shabby Posts: 6,256
    I watched the Prestige recently thanks to rave reviews on here. When I read another review elsewhere, it said that one of Nolan's major attribute's is thst he makes films which keep the audience talking long after they've left the theatre.
    Reading back the last few pages, I can attest that is the case. I'll be trying to see itnon IMAX this week.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    Dunkirk

    Making the film about people and the small actions they take rather than big action sequences was an interesting idea. Having three interwoven stories that gradually come together over different time frames worked really well.

    However, the film was nearly ruined for me by completely lacking a sense of scale - very few people on the beach, one smoke pall over the town, etc.
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,791
    Dazzler21 said:

    I don't want to jump into someone else's argument but can I just point out that not everyone knows the story in great detail.

    I consider myself to be reasonabley well read but all I know about Dunkirk is that our troops were trapped on a beach and were rescued by many boats that were, technically, civilian.

    I am, very much, looking forward to watching it. I have no idea how accurate it is going to be but I think it will 'educate' me and be an enjoyable film to watch, despite it being based on a true story with many of our past heros losing their lives.

    They clearly didn't listen at School during history lessons... I think we spent a couple of weeks of a term where WW2 was the main feature on Dunkirk... It was well worth it.
    Not every school does WW2 in history - we did Britain from 1750ish to the late 1800s - and not everyone was required to take history when I was at school and I suspect it's similar now once GCSE choices come up.
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  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    Dunkirk

    No characters (well, one maybe) , no plot (except the basic outline we already know) , no historical credibility and how did the RAF get 300,000 troops off a beach with three Spitfires ?

    Beautiful photography but why not read a couple of history books before embarking on an expensive movie ?
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    Dunkirk

    No characters (well, one maybe) , no plot (except the basic outline we already know) , no historical credibility and how did the RAF get 300,000 troops off a beach with three Spitfires ?

    Beautiful photography but why not read a couple of history books before embarking on an expensive movie ?

    wut
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998

    Dunkirk

    No characters (well, one maybe) , no plot (except the basic outline we already know) , no historical credibility and how did the RAF get 300,000 troops off a beach with three Spitfires ?

    Beautiful photography but why not read a couple of history books before embarking on an expensive movie ?

    I haven't even seen the movie but I'm fairly sure that scene isn't in the film.
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,739

    Dunkirk

    No characters (well, one maybe) , no plot (except the basic outline we already know) , no historical credibility and how did the RAF get 300,000 troops off a beach with three Spitfires ?

    Beautiful photography but why not read a couple of history books before embarking on an expensive movie ?

    Admit it. You haven't seen it have you?
  • SWEnglandAddick
    SWEnglandAddick Posts: 877
    edited August 2017

    Dunkirk

    No characters (well, one maybe) , no plot (except the basic outline we already know) , no historical credibility and how did the RAF get 300,000 troops off a beach with three Spitfires ?

    Beautiful photography but why not read a couple of history books before embarking on an expensive movie ?

    I liked the bit with the Stormtroopers.
  • Saw Dunkirk last night, thought it was... OK. I was disappointed..

    Thought it was a shame none of the characters had enough of a story to make you root for them (except Mark Rylance and his son, and just about Tom Hardy), the time jumping around wasn't needed and was confusing for a while at the start, and to be honest the 'war' aspect was quite scaled down - presumably partly to make it a 12A, but we saw what, 4, 5 planes? There would have been so many more.

    Would have liked a lot more focus on the small boats flotilla too, I think they are the most interesting stories of Dunkirk.

    I don't think it was a bad film, just nowhere near as good as I was hoping and others seem to have found it.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Sometimes I think all the reviews and comments have such a big influence on what you are expecting it can override your feelings after the film and you need a while to assess better.

    For example,
    Baywatch got nothing but bad reviews, so I watched it expecting a 1/10 or 2/10 film. My immediate reaction at the end was 'that was alright actually'.
    Thinking about it later, I remember how shite it really was, but my immediate reaction was positive because I had expected the worst.

    Similar thing with Wonder Woman, everyone raved about it, I thought it was ok but nothing special. Now thinking back it was a very good film, but I was expecting excellence so my immediate reaction was slightly negative.
  • I watched the Prestige recently thanks to rave reviews on here. When I read another review elsewhere, it said that one of Nolan's major attribute's is thst he makes films which keep the audience talking long after they've left the theatre.
    Reading back the last few pages, I can attest that is the case. I'll be trying to see itnon IMAX this week.

    Now The Prestige is a great film.
  • Sometimes I think all the reviews and comments have such a big influence on what you are expecting it can override your feelings after the film and you need a while to assess better.

    For example,
    Baywatch got nothing but bad reviews, so I watched it expecting a 1/10 or 2/10 film. My immediate reaction at the end was 'that was alright actually'.
    Thinking about it later, I remember how shite it really was, but my immediate reaction was positive because I had expected the worst.

    Similar thing with Wonder Woman, everyone raved about it, I thought it was ok but nothing special. Now thinking back it was a very good film, but I was expecting excellence so my immediate reaction was slightly negative.

    I completely agree with this. I always try to avoid reading reviews until I've seen a film. I don't watch any trailers either as I feel like that can spoil a film sometimes.
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193
    edited August 2017
    I've spent years in film promotion of sorts, and now I find myself in a position where I can avoid trailers and buzz, and watch movies without spoiling them massively first and I really like it. Expectation is a huge factor.

    Dunkirk is a thrilling action movie set in WW2, and most of the criticism here seem to be around it not providing what the viewers were hoping to see. That's not a fair criticism of the movie, which pretty much achieves what it sets out to do.


    the time jumping around wasn't needed

    That was the entire point of the movie!!
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  • JiMMy 85 said:

    I've spent years in film promotion of sorts, and now I find myself in a position where I can avoid trailers and buzz, and watch movies without spoiling them massively first and I really like it. Expectation is a huge factor.

    Dunkirk is a thrilling action movie set in WW2, and most of the criticism here seem to be around it not providing what the viewers were hoping to see. That's not a fair criticism of the movie, which pretty much achieves what it sets out to do.


    the time jumping around wasn't needed

    That was the entire point of the movie!!
    And I didn't like it particularly. I think a linear story about Dunkirk would work better.
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,647

    Dunkirk

    No characters (well, one maybe) , no plot (except the basic outline we already know) , no historical credibility and how did the RAF get 300,000 troops off a beach with three Spitfires ?

    Beautiful photography but why not read a couple of history books before embarking on an expensive movie ?

    I liked the bit with the Stormtroopers.
    And Harry Styles spent the whole movie dying for a shit.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,806
    I didn't see the Mole though, I was expecting Wind in the Willows at the start....what have I missed?
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,193

    JiMMy 85 said:

    I've spent years in film promotion of sorts, and now I find myself in a position where I can avoid trailers and buzz, and watch movies without spoiling them massively first and I really like it. Expectation is a huge factor.

    Dunkirk is a thrilling action movie set in WW2, and most of the criticism here seem to be around it not providing what the viewers were hoping to see. That's not a fair criticism of the movie, which pretty much achieves what it sets out to do.


    the time jumping around wasn't needed

    That was the entire point of the movie!!
    And I didn't like it particularly. I think a linear story about Dunkirk would work better.
    Nolan's not the man to make that movie, but I agree a traditional war movie on the subject would be interesting to see.
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729

    JiMMy 85 said:

    I've spent years in film promotion of sorts, and now I find myself in a position where I can avoid trailers and buzz, and watch movies without spoiling them massively first and I really like it. Expectation is a huge factor.

    Dunkirk is a thrilling action movie set in WW2, and most of the criticism here seem to be around it not providing what the viewers were hoping to see. That's not a fair criticism of the movie, which pretty much achieves what it sets out to do.


    the time jumping around wasn't needed

    That was the entire point of the movie!!
    And I didn't like it particularly. I think a linear story about Dunkirk would work better.
    it would've been your boring, run of the mill war movie then. They made a bunch of those back in the 50s/60s.
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344

    Dunkirk

    No characters (well, one maybe) , no plot (except the basic outline we already know) , no historical credibility and how did the RAF get 300,000 troops off a beach with three Spitfires ?

    Beautiful photography but why not read a couple of history books before embarking on an expensive movie ?

    I liked the bit with the Stormtroopers.
    And Harry Styles spent the whole movie dying for a shit.
    Wrong actor.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,979
    People can stop pretending they don't know who a member of One Direction was now.
  • JiMMy 85 said:

    I've spent years in film promotion of sorts, and now I find myself in a position where I can avoid trailers and buzz, and watch movies without spoiling them massively first and I really like it. Expectation is a huge factor.

    Dunkirk is a thrilling action movie set in WW2, and most of the criticism here seem to be around it not providing what the viewers were hoping to see. That's not a fair criticism of the movie, which pretty much achieves what it sets out to do.


    the time jumping around wasn't needed

    That was the entire point of the movie!!
    And I didn't like it particularly. I think a linear story about Dunkirk would work better.
    it would've been your boring, run of the mill war movie then. They made a bunch of those back in the 50s/60s.
    Why would it have to be boring because it's not in a messed up order?

    A well told story with today's technology (by which I don't just mean CGI) for the action can be compelling.
  • Red_in_SE8
    Red_in_SE8 Posts: 5,961
    I am vaguely aware of two members of One Direction now. The other one Is the one Bill Maher talks about here...and why should I know who they are? As Bill says, I am not a 12 year old girl!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpVCC7azVp4&sns=em
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,647
    Dazzler21 said:

    Dunkirk

    No characters (well, one maybe) , no plot (except the basic outline we already know) , no historical credibility and how did the RAF get 300,000 troops off a beach with three Spitfires ?

    Beautiful photography but why not read a couple of history books before embarking on an expensive movie ?

    I liked the bit with the Stormtroopers.
    And Harry Styles spent the whole movie dying for a shit.
    Wrong actor.
    it's my age.