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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Redrobo said:

    How about Amadou Bakayoko from Walsall? 3rd and last time I will mention him until the next window - honest!

    21 and scored 10 in his first season. Their YPOTY and meets the height test at 6'3".

    Better than a loan Rolly - could earn you a £ or two!

    But only 4 goals in 54 appearances in League One over his career, over three years. He scored 6 in 4 non-league matches last year but just 4 in 39 in the actual league. Not sure why suddenly he is going to score a lot more by coming here. Ajose has far better numbers in League One.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330

    Redrobo said:

    How about Amadou Bakayoko from Walsall? 3rd and last time I will mention him until the next window - honest!

    21 and scored 10 in his first season. Their YPOTY and meets the height test at 6'3".

    Better than a loan Rolly - could earn you a £ or two!

    But only 4 goals in 54 appearances in League One over his career, over three years. He scored 6 in 4 non-league matches last year but just 4 in 39 in the actual league. Not sure why suddenly he is going to score a lot more by coming here. Ajose has far better numbers in League One.
    Ha, that is the problem with judging a player using stats!!

    He is their young player of the year for a reason and for me it says more as to where he currently is than stats of when he was a 17 year old kid coming on for a few minutes at the end of a game.

    I think all his goals were shots so maybè not the type of player you may expect. I can't find a utube of him promoting himself, but there are a few of his goals. Comes across as a decent person as well.

    Funny you should mention Ajose, he scored both goals when we beat them 2-1. Watt when we drew 1-1.
  • ShortyWilson999
    ShortyWilson999 Posts: 201
    edited August 2017
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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15455937.Free_agent_training_with_Charlton/

    Martin training with us but wants first team football. Him coming in would allow Phillips to go out on loan.
  • Scoham said:

    http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15455937.Free_agent_training_with_Charlton/

    Martin training with us but wants first team football. Him coming in would allow Phillips to go out on loan.

    If he wants First-Team Football surely all Football League clubs should have their first pick Goalkeepers signed by now?

    Another case like Reeves; Why arent clubs queuing up to sign him?
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467

    Scoham said:

    http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/sport/15455937.Free_agent_training_with_Charlton/

    Martin training with us but wants first team football. Him coming in would allow Phillips to go out on loan.

    If he wants First-Team Football surely all Football League clubs should have their first pick Goalkeepers signed by now?

    Another case like Reeves; Why arent clubs queuing up to sign him?
    To be fair it sounded like clubs were queueing up for Reeves. But agree on Martin. He's been with us on and off for a month and still hasn't done enough. Don't see him being better than an in form Amos. I'd appreciate the cover and the ability to send Phillips somewhere to play regularly, but it feels like it's not gonna happen with Martin.
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    But Gobbo was insisting earlier in the week that Martin was sorted out elsewhere....lazy journalism perhaps?
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,353
    Not a rumour but Jodi Jones got a hatrick today against Notts County. Wonder if we will go back in for him at some point after being heavily linked a few seasons back
  • No Magennis or Novak for next few matches. Usain Bolt anyone?
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Magennis is expecting to be back for Plymouth
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  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Might have another striker soon allegedly too
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    edited August 2017
    Robinson says Magennis is out for two weeks, in his interview with Louis Mendez. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05bmdbl
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    Valley11 said:

    Robinson says Magennis is out for two weeks, in his interview with Louis Mendez. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p05bmdbl

    Josh told me he should be fine for next week after the game
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Quality interview with Mr Robertson. Respect.
  • Quality interview from a quality manager.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    I've had a bottle of red wine so this might be dazed optimism but I think he's going to take us up. It feels right this year, like Powell's first full season in charge. Please god.
  • Redhenry
    Redhenry Posts: 5,359
    Heard today that Martin hadn't joined yet because we have struggled to find a club to take Phillips on loan. Looks like it could be Cheltenham again for him.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    That would make sense. As has been pointed out, you would assume most clubs have their keeper now. Phillips could easily get a loan but may start as Number 2, and that would be pointless as we could save on budget and keep him as our Number 2.

    Anyone else think signing Martin and loaning Phillips out is just a waste of time. I get a season in League 2 would be good for Phillips, but he's a decent keeper. After hearing about Amos today, surely giving him the odd cup game and telling him he can push Amos out is the way forward.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,990
    The way Amos played today, Martin would be no 1 soon enough (unless Amos improves).
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,842

    The way Amos played today, Martin would be no 1 soon enough (unless Amos improves).

    I thought Amos in the second half was excellent, a couple of early fumbles could just be nerves?
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    The way Amos played today, Martin would be no 1 soon enough (unless Amos improves).

    I thought Amos in the second half was excellent, a couple of early fumbles could just be nerves?
    Even though it was his competitive debut for the club, a keeper with that experience shouldn't be nervous. I haven't seen enough of Amos to suggest whether he has what it takes to be a promotion winning League 1 keeper, I would guess he has though.

    We have 2 decent keepers now, albeit an inexperienced one in reserve at the minute. People were calling for him to be given the Number 1 jersey not so long ago.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,983
    Everton's 19-year-old forward Ademola Lookman is wanted by Derby County on loan. (Daily Mail)
  • purdis
    purdis Posts: 1,046

    The way Amos played today, Martin would be no 1 soon enough (unless Amos improves).

    Keepers need confidence to stake their claim on the jersey.

    Please give Amos time and full support to achieve that confidence. If we all do that, assuming he's got the basics, then he will improve - keepers thrive on confidence and perform much better when they are not looking over their shoulder every minute at a potential threat to replace them.

    In reality, the psychology behind a number one keeper should be that he performs at his very best every game on the understanding that his substitute is only there to step in if he's injured.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673
    Valley11 said:

    Everton's 19-year-old forward Ademola Lookman is wanted by Derby County on loan. (Daily Mail)

    Honestly think the championship will be lookmans level, never got the same feeling watch him play as I did with Gomez or Shelvey
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    edited August 2017

    Valley11 said:

    Everton's 19-year-old forward Ademola Lookman is wanted by Derby County on loan. (Daily Mail)

    Honestly think the championship will be lookmans level, never got the same feeling watch him play as I did with Gomez or Shelvey
    entitled to your opinion but I disagree (not about the mentioned players, I thought both would go on to play for England). I also think Lookman will play for England, he has pace, the ability to go past people and scores goals. He needs to improve his crossing and perhaps finishing. I can't see him getting much game time for Everton, would be a great loan signing for any Champ club IMO.
  • purdis
    purdis Posts: 1,046
    Amos did not play at all badly yesterday, don't know where you got that impression.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    purdis said:

    Amos did not play at all badly yesterday, don't know where you got that impression.

    Early fumble, dodgy tip over the bar, unconvincing on most crosses
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835

    Valley11 said:

    Everton's 19-year-old forward Ademola Lookman is wanted by Derby County on loan. (Daily Mail)

    Honestly think the championship will be lookmans level, never got the same feeling watch him play as I did with Gomez or Shelvey
    Absolute nonsense. Did you not see him play for England in the Summer? He was one of the star players in the competition.
  • purdis
    purdis Posts: 1,046
    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    Amos did not play at all badly yesterday, don't know where you got that impression.

    Early fumble, dodgy tip over the bar, unconvincing on most crosses
    Early days yet - as I said - maybe you're right but I hope not, a good, confident keeper is so important for the back four to function with confidence.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    purdis said:

    wmcf123 said:

    purdis said:

    Amos did not play at all badly yesterday, don't know where you got that impression.

    Early fumble, dodgy tip over the bar, unconvincing on most crosses
    Early days yet - as I said - maybe you're right but I hope not, a good, confident keeper is so important for the back four to function with confidence.
    Agreed- he deserves more chances. Merely my observation from yesterday