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The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)

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  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,198
    purdis said:

    The way Amos played today, Martin would be no 1 soon enough (unless Amos improves).

    Keepers need confidence to stake their claim on the jersey.

    Please give Amos time and full support to achieve that confidence. If we all do that, assuming he's got the basics, then he will improve - keepers thrive on confidence and perform much better when they are not looking over their shoulder every minute at a potential threat to replace them.

    In reality, the psychology behind a number one keeper should be that he performs at his very best every game on the understanding that his substitute is only there to step in if he's injured.
    This. I remember watching a keeper called Bob Bolder have an absolute mare on his debut at Man City. I was thinking, Jeez, what have we got here. But he went on to do okay didn't he? I've never judged a keeper on his early performances since.
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,499
    cafcfan said:

    purdis said:

    The way Amos played today, Martin would be no 1 soon enough (unless Amos improves).

    Keepers need confidence to stake their claim on the jersey.

    Please give Amos time and full support to achieve that confidence. If we all do that, assuming he's got the basics, then he will improve - keepers thrive on confidence and perform much better when they are not looking over their shoulder every minute at a potential threat to replace them.

    In reality, the psychology behind a number one keeper should be that he performs at his very best every game on the understanding that his substitute is only there to step in if he's injured.
    This. I remember watching a keeper called Bob Bolder have an absolute mare on his debut at Man City. I was thinking, Jeez, what have we got here. But he went on to do okay didn't he? I've never judged a keeper on his early performances since.
    Agree about Bokder at Man City.....cost us the game. And he wasn't too clever in the cup at Arsenal either......then he got better and better and better.....and was utterly superb in the run in and the whole of the following season.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    purdis said:

    Amos did not play at all badly yesterday, don't know where you got that impression.

    Agreed. Yes, he had a couple of dodgey moments. However he kept a clean sheet on his debut, and made a really good save midway through the 2nd half.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Valley11 said:

    Everton's 19-year-old forward Ademola Lookman is wanted by Derby County on loan. (Daily Mail)

    I'd be surprised if Everton let him go.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Good luck to Amos.
    However I don't feel at ease about the whole Dillon Phillips saga.
    Whatever eventually emerges I wish Dillon a good footballing career which I think will happen.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954

    If Amos was a bit hesitant with crosses, that might mean he was unsure whether his centre backs were going to challenge that ball or not.

    A new keeper needs time to work together with his back 4 to develop understanding.
    Amos hasn't really had much time yet.

  • What's wrong with Magennis ? Will he be fit for Plymouth ?
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977

    What's wrong with Magennis ? Will he be fit for Plymouth ?


    He says he will be
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    What is/was the problem?
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    Damaged his knee against Ipswich.
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  • If Big Mag isn't available next week surely Robbo has to revert to 4-4-2 ? With no Novak I can't see how we can play Robinsons one up front.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    If Big Mag isn't available next week surely Robbo has to revert to 4-4-2 ? With no Novak I can't see how we can play Robinsons one up front.

    442 is going to be tough with 2 strikers out though? With no Magennis/Novak, we are going to revert to 5-5
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    In a perverse way much like Marshals injury forced our hand in buying another midfielder it could be that this twists the arm to get another striker.
    There is a Northern Irish fella playing for Wigan who seems to be a bit part player nowadays… wouldn't it be good if we could reignite that fire
  • Give hanlan a go up top on Tuesday
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600

    Give hanlan a go up top on Tuesday

    He's injured - didn't feature in any pre-season first team games.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,673

    Valley11 said:

    Everton's 19-year-old forward Ademola Lookman is wanted by Derby County on loan. (Daily Mail)

    Honestly think the championship will be lookmans level, never got the same feeling watch him play as I did with Gomez or Shelvey
    This was a case of drunk bitterness I'm afraid, the vodka sodas got the better of me, Lookman is a baller
  • _nam11
    _nam11 Posts: 1,231
    Poyet just been released from that team in Uruguay or wherever it was.

    Sad really.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    _nam11 said:

    Poyet just been released from that team in Uruguay or wherever it was.

    Sad really.

    Tried to run before he could walk.

    Grass isn't always greener.

    etc.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    I would take him on a free if it's cheap wages. Back up to Kashi and JFC
  • Essex_Al
    Essex_Al Posts: 3,582
    Dizzle said:

    I would take him on a free if it's cheap wages. Back up to Kashi and JFC

    I wouldn't!
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  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,998
    Essex_Al said:

    Dizzle said:

    I would take him on a free if it's cheap wages. Back up to Kashi and JFC

    I wouldn't!
    Nor me.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    No thanks.
  • Chef_addick
    Chef_addick Posts: 2,196
    Dizzle said:

    I would take him on a free if it's cheap wages. Back up to Kashi and JFC

    Pass
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    Worth giving him a trial. Nothing more than that though.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    He made his decision. No thanks.
  • Dizzle
    Dizzle Posts: 5,190
    Just me then :smile:
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,885
    KR might be tempted to offer Poyet something as he had him on loan at MK but then again he might be of the opinion once bitten.......Shame how he has fallen from grace as he was great for us when CP gave him his chance.
  • dickplumb
    dickplumb Posts: 4,835
    What is it with wanting old players back? Josh Wright, Diego Poyet.etc The only ex players I would want back are Harry Arter, Jemain Defoe, Jonjo Shelvey and Rob Elliott, and none of those will happen.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    dickplumb said:

    What is it with wanting old players back? Josh Wright, Diego Poyet.etc The only ex players I would want back are Harry Arter, Jemain Defoe, Jonjo Shelvey and Rob Elliott, and none of those will happen.

    I'd add Gomez and Lookman to that list as well.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,763
    dickplumb said:

    What is it with wanting old players back? Josh Wright, Diego Poyet.etc The only ex players I would want back are Harry Arter, Jemain Defoe, Jonjo Shelvey and Rob Elliott, and none of those will happen.

    Not desperate for him to rejoin but giving him a trial has no downsides to me. If he's pants, we won't give him a contract.