The 2017 Summer Transfer Rumours Thread (Deadline Day from page 264)
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This. I remember watching a keeper called Bob Bolder have an absolute mare on his debut at Man City. I was thinking, Jeez, what have we got here. But he went on to do okay didn't he? I've never judged a keeper on his early performances since.purdis said:
Keepers need confidence to stake their claim on the jersey.Covered End said:The way Amos played today, Martin would be no 1 soon enough (unless Amos improves).
Please give Amos time and full support to achieve that confidence. If we all do that, assuming he's got the basics, then he will improve - keepers thrive on confidence and perform much better when they are not looking over their shoulder every minute at a potential threat to replace them.
In reality, the psychology behind a number one keeper should be that he performs at his very best every game on the understanding that his substitute is only there to step in if he's injured.5 -
Agree about Bokder at Man City.....cost us the game. And he wasn't too clever in the cup at Arsenal either......then he got better and better and better.....and was utterly superb in the run in and the whole of the following season.cafcfan said:
This. I remember watching a keeper called Bob Bolder have an absolute mare on his debut at Man City. I was thinking, Jeez, what have we got here. But he went on to do okay didn't he? I've never judged a keeper on his early performances since.purdis said:
Keepers need confidence to stake their claim on the jersey.Covered End said:The way Amos played today, Martin would be no 1 soon enough (unless Amos improves).
Please give Amos time and full support to achieve that confidence. If we all do that, assuming he's got the basics, then he will improve - keepers thrive on confidence and perform much better when they are not looking over their shoulder every minute at a potential threat to replace them.
In reality, the psychology behind a number one keeper should be that he performs at his very best every game on the understanding that his substitute is only there to step in if he's injured.2 -
Agreed. Yes, he had a couple of dodgey moments. However he kept a clean sheet on his debut, and made a really good save midway through the 2nd half.purdis said:Amos did not play at all badly yesterday, don't know where you got that impression.
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I'd be surprised if Everton let him go.Valley11 said:Everton's 19-year-old forward Ademola Lookman is wanted by Derby County on loan. (Daily Mail)
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Good luck to Amos.
However I don't feel at ease about the whole Dillon Phillips saga.
Whatever eventually emerges I wish Dillon a good footballing career which I think will happen.3 -
If Amos was a bit hesitant with crosses, that might mean he was unsure whether his centre backs were going to challenge that ball or not.
A new keeper needs time to work together with his back 4 to develop understanding.
Amos hasn't really had much time yet.
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What's wrong with Magennis ? Will he be fit for Plymouth ?0
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What is/was the problem?0
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Damaged his knee against Ipswich.1
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If Big Mag isn't available next week surely Robbo has to revert to 4-4-2 ? With no Novak I can't see how we can play Robinsons one up front.0
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442 is going to be tough with 2 strikers out though? With no Magennis/Novak, we are going to revert to 5-5ShootersHillGuru said:If Big Mag isn't available next week surely Robbo has to revert to 4-4-2 ? With no Novak I can't see how we can play Robinsons one up front.
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In a perverse way much like Marshals injury forced our hand in buying another midfielder it could be that this twists the arm to get another striker.
There is a Northern Irish fella playing for Wigan who seems to be a bit part player nowadays… wouldn't it be good if we could reignite that fire1 -
Give hanlan a go up top on Tuesday6
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He's injured - didn't feature in any pre-season first team games.I-SAW-POUSO-PLAY said:Give hanlan a go up top on Tuesday
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This was a case of drunk bitterness I'm afraid, the vodka sodas got the better of me, Lookman is a ballerPelling1993 said:
Honestly think the championship will be lookmans level, never got the same feeling watch him play as I did with Gomez or ShelveyValley11 said:Everton's 19-year-old forward Ademola Lookman is wanted by Derby County on loan. (Daily Mail)
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Poyet just been released from that team in Uruguay or wherever it was.
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Tried to run before he could walk._nam11 said:Poyet just been released from that team in Uruguay or wherever it was.
Sad really.
Grass isn't always greener.
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I would take him on a free if it's cheap wages. Back up to Kashi and JFC4
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No thanks.0
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PassDizzle said:I would take him on a free if it's cheap wages. Back up to Kashi and JFC
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Worth giving him a trial. Nothing more than that though.1
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He made his decision. No thanks.0
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Just me then2
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KR might be tempted to offer Poyet something as he had him on loan at MK but then again he might be of the opinion once bitten.......Shame how he has fallen from grace as he was great for us when CP gave him his chance.0
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What is it with wanting old players back? Josh Wright, Diego Poyet.etc The only ex players I would want back are Harry Arter, Jemain Defoe, Jonjo Shelvey and Rob Elliott, and none of those will happen.6
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I'd add Gomez and Lookman to that list as well.dickplumb said:What is it with wanting old players back? Josh Wright, Diego Poyet.etc The only ex players I would want back are Harry Arter, Jemain Defoe, Jonjo Shelvey and Rob Elliott, and none of those will happen.
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Not desperate for him to rejoin but giving him a trial has no downsides to me. If he's pants, we won't give him a contract.dickplumb said:What is it with wanting old players back? Josh Wright, Diego Poyet.etc The only ex players I would want back are Harry Arter, Jemain Defoe, Jonjo Shelvey and Rob Elliott, and none of those will happen.
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