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  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,241

    Watched this the other night, despite not being a Ben Elton fan (politics) and him looking remarkably like Tony B-Liar nowadays.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b092l7pq/the-ronnie-barker-comedy-lecture-with-ben-elton

    It was interesting and made some good points about sit-coms. Put my foot through the TV whenever Miranda was mentioned but...

    He's a good writer is Ben Elton

    Thing with situation comedies is that they are bloody hard to get right. Some I find so bad they are offensive. Citizen Khan was/is so bad I thought it was a parody whereas whilst Miranda isn't to my taste my missus finds it funny and I see that what she does (Miranda) can appeal to a demoraphic.

    Phoenix nights is another one, I absolutely loved it having drunk and attended events at similar places and actually having drunk in the place it was filmed at Bolton away years ago it isn't hard to see where the observations were made and that tickled me. Besides that I think Peter Kay is a brilliant comic actor, so much more to him than shouting "garlic bread" just by raising his eyes he can get me going.

    I liked Gavin & Stacey but I didn't like the smithy character as much as a lot of people did. I thought Ruth Jones and Rob Brydons turns in that were what made it so funny
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Very few comedies "stand the test of time" as they say.
    Some old comedies which were apparently extremely popular years ago don't even raise a hint of a smile in repeats.
    Only fools still has people belly laughing after 20/30 repeat views.
  • Should have ended with the watch. Up to that point, it was consistently the funniest thing ever screened on British TV.

    So true.
  • Carter said:

    Watched this the other night, despite not being a Ben Elton fan (politics) and him looking remarkably like Tony B-Liar nowadays.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b092l7pq/the-ronnie-barker-comedy-lecture-with-ben-elton

    It was interesting and made some good points about sit-coms. Put my foot through the TV whenever Miranda was mentioned but...

    He's a good writer is Ben Elton

    Thing with situation comedies is that they are bloody hard to get right. Some I find so bad they are offensive. Citizen Khan was/is so bad I thought it was a parody whereas whilst Miranda isn't to my taste my missus finds it funny and I see that what she does (Miranda) can appeal to a demoraphic.

    Phoenix nights is another one, I absolutely loved it having drunk and attended events at similar places and actually having drunk in the place it was filmed at Bolton away years ago it isn't hard to see where the observations were made and that tickled me. Besides that I think Peter Kay is a brilliant comic actor, so much more to him than shouting "garlic bread" just by raising his eyes he can get me going.

    I liked Gavin & Stacey but I didn't like the smithy character as much as a lot of people did. I thought Ruth Jones and Rob Brydons turns in that were what made it so funny
    I didn't like Smithy the first time around, but on second viewing I did, weirdly. He's that mate you know is annoying but you also know he's harmless and means well.

    Phoenix Nights was brilliant - I really like Car Share too.

    Nothing tops OFAH though - saw one the other day I'd somehow missed about Grandad getting arrested in Spain, and this bit had me in stitches:

    Rodney: You were gun running during the Spanish Civil War?!
    Grandad: Well that's the best time to do it, Rodney.
  • "I thought you said the dump was open 24/7?"
    "Yeah, but not at night Del"
  • Riviera said:

    Best 5 British Sitcoms:

    1) Fawlty Towers
    2) Porridge
    3) The Office
    4) Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads?
    5) Dad's Army

    There you are, that's that sorted.

    I'd take out number 4 and stick in Steptoe and Son.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,350

    I also watched the Ronnie-Barker-Comedy-Lecture.
    Very disappointed, was mainly Elton spouting on about
    his own shows not much about Ronnie Barker at all.
    Should have realised can't stand the narsisestic Elton at all.

    I think that is just the name given to the lectures in remembrance of RB the great man. It was the inaugural in what will be yearly lectures by guest speakers.
  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167

    Carter said:

    Watched this the other night, despite not being a Ben Elton fan (politics) and him looking remarkably like Tony B-Liar nowadays.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b092l7pq/the-ronnie-barker-comedy-lecture-with-ben-elton

    It was interesting and made some good points about sit-coms. Put my foot through the TV whenever Miranda was mentioned but...

    He's a good writer is Ben Elton

    Thing with situation comedies is that they are bloody hard to get right. Some I find so bad they are offensive. Citizen Khan was/is so bad I thought it was a parody whereas whilst Miranda isn't to my taste my missus finds it funny and I see that what she does (Miranda) can appeal to a demoraphic.

    Phoenix nights is another one, I absolutely loved it having drunk and attended events at similar places and actually having drunk in the place it was filmed at Bolton away years ago it isn't hard to see where the observations were made and that tickled me. Besides that I think Peter Kay is a brilliant comic actor, so much more to him than shouting "garlic bread" just by raising his eyes he can get me going.

    I liked Gavin & Stacey but I didn't like the smithy character as much as a lot of people did. I thought Ruth Jones and Rob Brydons turns in that were what made it so funny
    I didn't like Smithy the first time around, but on second viewing I did, weirdly. He's that mate you know is annoying but you also know he's harmless and means well.

    Phoenix Nights was brilliant - I really like Car Share too.

    Nothing tops OFAH though - saw one the other day I'd somehow missed about Grandad getting arrested in Spain, and this bit had me in stitches:

    Rodney: You were gun running during the Spanish Civil War?!
    Grandad: Well that's the best time to do it, Rodney.
    Grandad " Sidney Poitier. You know him, always plays the black fella,"
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    "Arthur's ashes" weren't that the guy that won Wimbledon?
  • 3blokes
    3blokes Posts: 4,610
    Mange tout.
    John Sullivan was a fantastic writer and the cast were superb.
    I think maybe it should have ended with them becoming millionaires after the watch discovery.
    It was mainly an affectionate knowing look at family life by a brilliant writer who knew how to set up and write a scene for maximum comic effect. And the casting of and interaction between Rodney and Del was fantastic.
    And it had some really poignant moments in there for good measure too.
    One of the very best British sitcoms ever in my view.
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  • Riviera said:

    Best 5 British Sitcoms:

    1) Fawlty Towers
    2) Porridge
    3) The Office
    4) Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads?
    5) Dad's Army

    There you are, that's that sorted.

    (1) Dads Army
    (2) Only Fools and Horses
    (3) Fawlty Towers
    (4) Porridge

    Didnt ever really watch any others (Not that I can think of at the moment anyway)
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168

    Riviera said:

    Best 5 British Sitcoms:

    1) Fawlty Towers
    2) Porridge
    3) The Office
    4) Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads?
    5) Dad's Army

    There you are, that's that sorted.

    (1) Dads Army
    (2) Only Fools and Horses
    (3) Fawlty Towers
    (4) Porridge

    Didnt ever really watch any others (Not that I can think of at the moment anyway)
    Probably not the best person to judge the reklative merits of a wide range of TV sitcoms then, eh?
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    Just before Del falls through the bar he tells Trigger that the the birds in here love talking about money. So Trigger walks up to a couple of them & tells them he found an old £5 note the other day.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,484
    Of classics not already mentioned, Father Ted was great too. Also enjoyed Some mothers do ave em and keeping up appearances.
    More modern ones, Peep Show, Inbetweeners, Nighty Night.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,241
    Benidorm deserves a mention for modern situation comedies, another one that observes people very well
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,148
    Early Doors.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219

    Early Doors.

    Classic

    Smoking room was good.

    Porridge my number 1
  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,148
    Dinnerladies
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219

    Dinnerladies

    Liked that too
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited August 2017
    Riviera said:

    Best 5 British Sitcoms:

    1) Fawlty Towers
    2) Porridge
    3) The Office
    4) Whatever Happened to the Likely Lads?
    5) Dad's Army

    There you are, that's that sorted.

    Apart from:

    Steptoe and Son
    Rising Damp
    The Likely Lads
    Father Ted (Irish)
    Outnumbered
    The Young Ones
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  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,568
    The only sitcom that comes close to Only Fools has got to be Miranda
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Royle Family
  • Daggs
    Daggs Posts: 1,344
    Loved OFAH. Agree it should have ended with the watch.
    Funny it was but poignant too. Hearing 'holding back the years' after Rodney and cassandra's wedding. Proper lump in the throat.
  • Just before Del falls through the bar he tells Trigger that the the birds in here love talking about money. So Trigger walks up to a couple of them & tells them he found an old £5 note the other day.

    Brilliant.

    I love it when he says his Dad died a couple of years before he was born.

    That and the "What's Dave then, some sort of nickname?" scene.
  • Halix
    Halix Posts: 2,237
    edited August 2017

    It's good but it's no Fawlty towers.

    Cant watch Fawlty Towers now, I find it cringeworthy, when first on I though it was superb... its a bit odd, I suppose it must be over familiarity but I can still watch old Monty Pythons, Porridges, etc and no probs.
  • rina
    rina Posts: 2,334

    The only sitcom that comes close to Only Fools has got to be Miranda

    that one line is funnier than Miranda Hart's entire career
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Yes Minister/Prime Minister.

    Some of the best comedy writing, casting and acting of all time.
  • I'm sorry you are the 1st person I know that does not like it. It is the best show on tv. It's funny but can also made you feel emotional the two things that stand out his Grandad's funeral with the hat and when Rodney has a breakdown in the lift just after he loses his baby.
    Derek1952 said:

    Just seen The Story of only Fools and Horses on t.v.Does any one else not find fools and horses funny.Stupidity and Slapstick never found amusing.

  • Riviera
    Riviera Posts: 8,167
    Halix said:

    It's good but it's no Fawlty towers.

    Cant watch Fawlty Towers now, I find it cringeworthy, when first on I though it was superb... its a bit odd, I suppose it must be over familiarity but I can still watch old Monty Pythons, Porridges, etc and no probs.
    Astounded!
    I watch them regularly and laugh and laugh and laugh. Got my kids into them. The comedy is timeless even if the set and costumes are not. Perfectly crafted British farce. I have them on VHS, DVD, i-tunes on my SkyQ planner.
  • Fiiish
    Fiiish Posts: 7,998
    edited August 2017
    In no particular order...

    Blackadder
    Only Fools and Horses
    Phoenix Nights
    That Peter Kay Thing
    Car Share
    One Foot in the Grave
    Father Ted
    The IT Crowd
    Yes (Prime) Minister
    Fawlty Towers
    I'm Alan Partridge
    Men Behaving Badly
    The Young Ones
    Red Dwarf
    The League of Gentlemen
    The Office
    Bottom
    The Thin Blue Line
    The Inbetweeners
    Peep Show
    Spaced
    Extras
    Cuckoo
    Green Wing
    The Thick of It

    Great British sitcoms past and present. Some haven't aged as well as others but all great in their time. By no means exhaustive. I know it's not everyone's cup of tea but People Just Do Nothing is brilliant.