Attention: Please take a moment to consider our terms and conditions before posting.

Crofts released by mutual consent

13

Comments

  • Few! Now I don't have to remove either from my fantasy football team, get in!
  • superclive
    superclive Posts: 1,813
    We do have good cover here unlike up front. O wonder if lapslies performance helped make this decision.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,493

    Crofts is signing for Scunthorpe

    https://t.co/UVdes9Th5B

    IF/when he signs for Scunthorpe, he could well line up in midfield with Neal Bishop .. combined age for the two ? .. 72+ .. speed will not be of the essence here methinks
  • So scunthorpe have picked up two players for nothing on deadline day. - sounds like good business regardless of what people on here think about them.

  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,539

    So scunthorpe have picked up two players for nothing on deadline day. - sounds like good business regardless of what people on here think about them.

    But it's not nothing, they have to pay their wages which we're lead to believe are relatively high for League One.
  • SDAddick said:

    So scunthorpe have picked up two players for nothing on deadline day. - sounds like good business regardless of what people on here think about them.

    But it's not nothing, they have to pay their wages which we're lead to believe are relatively high for League One.
    I doubt if Crofts was on that much, relatively speaking.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,929
    still a bit curious that he signed a new contract ...someone tell me how that would have worked to our advantage
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,539
    edited September 2017

    I make us short in CB or CM, or does this mean Lapslie will step up?

    Bauer/Sarr
    Pearce/Konsa

    Kashi/?
    JFC/Aribo

    Doesn't Reeves fit into CM I know he can play the 10 but he can also play CM
    You can't have too many players covering multiple positions, if that was the case then you'd need Dion Dublin and phill jones then your squad is complete. Two for each position has to be the very minimum.
    You can when it means your very promising youth players can't get a game and thus want away. Think that is what was at risk of happening here with Dijksteel and Aribo. Aribo didn't make the bench last game and Dijksteel hasn't made the bench this year. But both are good enough as back-ups in this league, and both could be light-years ahead of Crofts by the end of the season with the right nurturing.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,501
    SDAddick said:

    I make us short in CB or CM, or does this mean Lapslie will step up?

    Bauer/Sarr
    Pearce/Konsa

    Kashi/?
    JFC/Aribo

    Doesn't Reeves fit into CM I know he can play the 10 but he can also play CM
    You can't have too many players covering multiple positions, if that was the case then you'd need Dion Dublin and phill jones then your squad is complete. Two for each position has to be the very minimum.
    You can when it means your very promising youth players can't get a game and thus want away. Think that is what was at risk of happening here with Dijksteel and Aribo. Aribo didn't make the bench last game and Dijksteel hasn't made the bench this year. But both are good enough as back-ups in this league, and both were light-years ahead of Crofts by the end of last season
    fiiiixed
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,539
    lolwray said:

    still a bit curious that he signed a new contract ...someone tell me how that would have worked to our advantage

    Think it was automatically triggered by the number of games he played. Don't think the club had a choice.

  • Sponsored links:



  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,493

    So scunthorpe have picked up two players for nothing on deadline day. - sounds like good business regardless of what people on here think about them.

    Scunthorpe generally as a club and Graham Alexander in particular have good records of making the proverbial silken purse players from sows ears ..
    no comments please on the porcine characteristics of either Crofts or Novak ..
    I can't wait for our game at Glanford Park in No(Vak)ember ((:>)
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,340
    lolwray said:

    Oggy Red said:

    Oggy Red said:

    Ross said:

    Makes you wonder why he activated the clause for an extra year in his contract.

    To make sure he got paid, just in case he couldn't find another club.


    Contracts get terminated by mutual consent when the club say "We'll give you £X to mutually consent your contract"
    Even then at his age, he's not going to risk not having a club ..... unless he's already got one lined up.

    Sure he has got a club lined up but he would still have been paid off.
    maybe just maybe they are clearing out to make the club more attractive to a purchaser
    What would make the club more attractive is getting promoted & not being stuck in this league.
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,723
    lolwray said:

    still a bit curious that he signed a new contract ...someone tell me how that would have worked to our advantage

    My understanding is that his original contract had an option clause and he exercised that option as was his right. Similar to Diarra last season.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,539
    LenGlover said:

    lolwray said:

    still a bit curious that he signed a new contract ...someone tell me how that would have worked to our advantage

    My understanding is that his original contract had an option clause and he exercised that option as was his right. Similar to Diarra last season.
    Can we stop talking about Diarra?!?!?!?


    I miss him :(:(
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,879
    Diarra when not playing with a broken foot was pure quality. Even with broken bones in his feet he was very very good both at defensive mud and cb.

  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,317
    SDAddick said:

    I make us short in CB or CM, or does this mean Lapslie will step up?

    Bauer/Sarr
    Pearce/Konsa

    Kashi/?
    JFC/Aribo

    Doesn't Reeves fit into CM I know he can play the 10 but he can also play CM
    You can't have too many players covering multiple positions, if that was the case then you'd need Dion Dublin and phill jones then your squad is complete. Two for each position has to be the very minimum.
    You can when it means your very promising youth players can't get a game and thus want away. Think that is what was at risk of happening here with Dijksteel and Aribo. Aribo didn't make the bench last game and Dijksteel hasn't made the bench this year. But both are good enough as back-ups in this league, and both could be light-years ahead of Crofts by the end of the season with the right nurturing.
    I agree with this. However the key bit is "with the right nurturing". Usually that means playing a few games here and there with some sub appearances. This is very different to being forced to play in an injury stricken side for long length of time. The risk remains that if Solly, Kashi and Macgennis get injured for long periods we are in trouble.
  • Crofts didn't fit the high tempo football that KR craves . Against Crawley he was sooooooo slow and lost the ball far too much. For me , Novak and Crofts were the weakest players in the first team squad ( not including Jacko in this as he won't figure too much when everyone is fit ) , so no big deal . However , the replacement for Novak is a massive gamble . It proves the owner is still as clueless as ever as one more descent striker would have given us a great chance for promotion .
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,302
    Crofts leaves and we bring in Josh Wright.

    Robinson said we didn't have space in the squad but really likes him. Now Crofts has left, there's a space in the squad. Josh Wright has also been liking a few tweets saying about returning to Charlton. Robinson may have said we don't have anyone lined up, but I think that this may be a case of watch this space...
  • Viewfinder
    Viewfinder Posts: 4,924

    Crofts didn't fit the high tempo football that KR craves . Against Crawley he was sooooooo slow and lost the ball far too much. For me , Novak and Crofts were the weakest players in the first team squad ( not including Jacko in this as he won't figure too much when everyone is fit ) , so no big deal . However , the replacement for Novak is a massive gamble . It proves the owner is still as clueless as ever as one more descent striker would have given us a great chance for promotion .

    I agree with you. Many Lifers seem to have either forgotten or slept through Crofts' many error-strewn games last season. Simple passes misplaced; possession lost, then puffing to get back. He's more of a liability than a asset.

    Mind you, I don't much rate the youngsters many think should take his place. Aribo is casual, and needs to sharpen the accuracy of his team-play approaching the box; not blessed with much pace, either. And Konsa gets brushed aside by tough centre-forwards; remember Steve Morison making hay in our dismal 3-1 defeat at The Den last season?

  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,539
    edited September 2017
    redman said:

    SDAddick said:

    I make us short in CB or CM, or does this mean Lapslie will step up?

    Bauer/Sarr
    Pearce/Konsa

    Kashi/?
    JFC/Aribo

    Doesn't Reeves fit into CM I know he can play the 10 but he can also play CM
    You can't have too many players covering multiple positions, if that was the case then you'd need Dion Dublin and phill jones then your squad is complete. Two for each position has to be the very minimum.
    You can when it means your very promising youth players can't get a game and thus want away. Think that is what was at risk of happening here with Dijksteel and Aribo. Aribo didn't make the bench last game and Dijksteel hasn't made the bench this year. But both are good enough as back-ups in this league, and both could be light-years ahead of Crofts by the end of the season with the right nurturing.
    I agree with this. However the key bit is "with the right nurturing". Usually that means playing a few games here and there with some sub appearances. This is very different to being forced to play in an injury stricken side for long length of time. The risk remains that if Solly, Kashi and Macgennis get injured for long periods we are in trouble.
    Good point, although I don't know that there is one way to blood a young player. For some, an extended run in the side would be really helpful as it allows them to grow and learn week in and week out. You saw that last year with Aribo where he put a good run of games together. For others, playing in cup games and making the occasional sub appearance for a couple years is good enough.

    But I think for Aribo and Dijksteel, players who could anchor our midfield for years to come, they feel they're ready now. In their minds missing out on the 18 in the league isn't good enough, and I'm inclined to agree. Yes, there are questions about what happens if they need a long run in the side, but Konsa can play right back, as can RCC, so if something went terribly wrong for Dijksteel or he got hurt he'd have reprieve. Those same two players can provide cover in midfield as well.

    I think every team in this division is one or two key injuries away from trouble. I think we often overestimate the squads in League One. And we are definitely too light up front, there is no doubt about that. But when it comes to midfield I think we have good cover through hungry players who are ready to break through.

  • Sponsored links:



  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 8,158
    This news just about wraps it up for me - best transfer window we have had since the Belgium's have been here. Looking forward to enjoy the football now. In an ideal world we'd have another ready made proven striker but one that was prepared to sit on the bench as Magennis understudy was never likely to happen. I always felt if a Grigg or somebody came in then Magennis would go. What happened in a Dodoo type loan was always the likely outcome.
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,633
    Thought he looked well past it last season, barely left the centre circle, no loss at all would rather see some young players given a chance as back up. Hopefully this leaves some room to bring in one of Lambert, Miller or Best all of whom would be better than the striker options we currently have barring Josh. Not convinced that will happen though.
  • Missed It said:

    lolwray said:

    maybe just maybe it gives us the opportunity to bolster the squad with another out of contract striker

    Strikers are always at a premium. What sort of player do you get when you're looking for unemployed ones in September?

    Charlton's recruitment fuckwittery continues unabated.
    A player that had captained his national side and played in a World Cup final.
    That's what AS Nancy got on 1st September 2016 in Alou Diarra.
    He's not a striker though is he?
  • Missed It
    Missed It Posts: 2,735

    So scunthorpe have picked up two players for nothing on deadline day. - sounds like good business regardless of what people on here think about them.

    Is desperate Daisy doing BOGOFs now?!
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,304
    These two signings will do wonders for the average pace of the Scunthorpe team
  • cabbles said:

    Not a loss at all. We have good cover in that area with Konsa and Aribo. This is a positive for me

    Much as I like them as players, you need experience in the squad and the balance has been shifted recklessly against that in the last 24 hours.
    Agree. Thin in numbers now. Presume the tactic will be to sign a couple of unattached journeymen?
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,364
    Josh Wright can fuck right off, stay at Gillingham and keep playing safe sideways passes.

    I'm astonished the consensus is a good one about getting rid of 2 senior professionals who carry a couple of decades of invaluable experience and bringing in a bloke who can't score in Scotland

    Nah, nothings changed. We will be in the bargain bucket again come January when we realise people get injured and relying on kids when the heat is on isn't the way to go
  • agim
    agim Posts: 1,141
    I know for 100% fact that he loved playing for Charlton. This is definitely Robinsons doing. I'd have kept him as back up but obviously not happy
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,723
    Crofts was good at doing the dirty work but did not have the legs and pace any longer that enabled him to play Premier league football earlier in his career.

    He was unfortunate to have to play alongside two similarly immobile players in either dear old Jacko or Foley on arrival rather than someone with 'legs' to do his running. As a consequence he looked exposed and thus worse than he was as the good 'dirty' work he did was often not noticed.

    As I've said before football is all about the blend. Matt Holland with Kinsella and Keane or Kinsella and Parker looked decent. As the 'main man' himself he looked poor.

    So it was at a lower level with Crofts. Alongside someone to do his running he still had something to offer. That said, assuming everyone is fit and still at the Club, he wouldn't make my first X1 this season.
  • Offloading Crofts and replacing him with Josh Wright is an improvement and shrewd move in my opinion.

    I don't think Josh Wright is a world beater but he will be better competition to Kashi and Forster Caskey than Crofts (and decent as a freebie). Kashi may not last a 40 odd game season so we need good squad depth.

    Karl and seen an opportunity to improve the squad and he's hopefully going to take it.....that's his job (not to just keep players in the squad because they're good blokes / seasoned professionals).