The average campaign is apparently 5 to 6 weeks, with the maximum being 8 weeks, so you can see everything need to be set in place well in advance. You create your own page with a short video, and you can either just ask for donations, or you can offer rewards dependent on the size of the donation. For example, you could offer a 'free' Jimmy Seed t-shirt for a £50 donation, or your name on the plinth for a £1000 donation.
This is an area where it would be useful to have the club involved. For example, a £500 donation might earn you a behind the scenes tour of the Valley.
The average campaign is apparently 5 to 6 weeks, with the maximum being 8 weeks, so you can see everything need to be set in place well in advance. You create your own page with a short video, and you can either just ask for donations, or you can offer rewards dependent on the size of the donation. For example, you could offer a 'free' Jimmy Seed t-shirt for a £50 donation, or your name on the plinth for a £1000 donation.
This is an area where it would be useful to have the club involved. For example, a £500 donation might earn you a behind the scenes tour of the Valley.
£500 will probably get you a place starting up front at the moment.
The Museum fellow has got back to me, and apparently the cap was on loan from the owner for a 2014 exhibition about how WW1 affected the careers of a selection of footballers, one being JS of course. They've passed on my details to him (or her) to see if they'll sell it to me. Fingers crossed again.
The owner is clearly receptive to the idea of the cap being on public display, and given the item is still at the museum three years after the exhibition, not in a rush to get it back. In the event they are not willing to sell to you or the price is too high, perhaps they would consider either loaning the cap to Charlton Athletic Museum or even selling to the Museum at a lower rate than they would sell to a private buyer.
The owner is clearly receptive to the idea of the cap being on public display, and given the item is still at the museum three years after the exhibition, not in a rush to get it back. In the event they are not willing to sell to you or the price is too high, perhaps they would consider either loaning the cap to Charlton Athletic Museum or even selling to the Museum at a lower rate than they would sell to a private buyer.
Good luck.
Worth considering if he says no. But I hope he'll say yes as I've explained I want to show the caps at talks about JS. I'll also loan to the National (or Charlton) Museum for special exhibition.
'When I have a moment I will send you some material relating to a WWI and Football Exhibition we did in 2014. We featured Jimmy’s cap and his story alongside that of his old Sunderland teammate Tom Wilson and that of Sam Wadsworth of Blackburn and Huddersfield Town. We focused on them for a section exploring how players who were rejected by their clubs after the war then went onto big and better things elsewhere.'
Send the chap at the Nat Footy Museum a little nudge, and it seems he hasn't contacted the owner of the cap yet, in fact he hasn't even dug out the person's details yet. Frustrating, but he's probably very busy and all that. He's asked me for a DVD of Ha'way the Lads for the researchers at the museum as they didn't know about it.
If we are lucky enough to get the cap back it'll just leave one full cap missing: his cap for the match v. Scotland on 8th April 1922 (Purple).
Age 26 1 21 May 1921 - Belgium 0 England 2, Stade du Daring Club de Bruxelles, Bruxelles Fr AW Age 27 2 21 October 1922 - England 2 Ireland 0, The Hawthorns, West Bromwich BC HW 3 5 March 1923 - Wales 2 England 2, Ninian Park, Cardiff AD Start 4 19 March 1923 - England 6 Belgium 1, Arsenal Stadium, Highbury Fr HW goal 60th min Age 30 5 4 April 1925 - Scotland 2 England 0, Hampden Park, Glasgow BC AL
There's a very interesting tale as to how the chap came to have the cap. Jimmy gave the cap, and a copy of his autobiography, to a close personal friend called Molly, a lady who appears in some family photo albums. She apparently turned up at Jimmy's funeral, much to the consternation of my grandmother.
One or two of you on the forum may already know about Molly. The chap who owned the cap was Molly's great nephew, and he said he'd be delighted for it to return home.
There's a very interesting tale as to how the chap came to have the cap. Jimmy gave the cap, and a copy of his autobiography, to a close personal friend called Molly, a lady who appears in some family photo albums. She apparently turned up at Jimmy's funeral, much to the consternation of my grandmother.
One or two of you on the forum may already know about Molly. The chap who owned the cap was Molly's great nephew, and he said he'd be delighted for it to return home.
There's a very interesting tale as to how the chap came to have the cap. Jimmy gave the cap, and a copy of his autobiography, to a close personal friend called Molly, a lady who appears in some family photo albums. She apparently turned up at Jimmy's funeral, much to the consternation of my grandmother.
One or two of you on the forum may already know about Molly. The chap who owned the cap was Molly's great nephew, and he said he'd be delighted for it to return home.
I'm heading up to Newcastle on Thursday to collect Jimmy's missing cap awarded for: 19 March 1923 - England 6 Belgium 1, Arsenal Stadium, Highbury (JS scored a goal in the 60th min) Photo of cap shown earlier in the thread.
But there's one other missing cap and it's the one awarded for: 4 April 1925 - Scotland 2 England 0, Hampden Park, Glasgow
Caps awarded for matches against Scotland were purple, as in the photo. Jimmy’s was earned for playing in the 1925, 2-0 away defeat.
It's a long shot, but if you see one on auction with '1925' on it, please let me know!
Intriguing story behind how it came to be in Whitley Bay. The family wanted it to return to Jimmy’s family, and wouldn’t accept a penny for it. Lovely people. Sunderland fans with accents that closely matched grandad’s.
They’ll be my guests at The Valley next time they’re down in London. Really looking forward to that. Hopefully we’ll have the cap on display at the museum by then.
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If we do go ahead we could use a site like crowdfunder.co.uk
The average campaign is apparently 5 to 6 weeks, with the maximum being 8 weeks, so you can see everything need to be set in place well in advance.
You create your own page with a short video, and you can either just ask for donations, or you can offer rewards dependent on the size of the donation. For example, you could offer a 'free' Jimmy Seed t-shirt for a £50 donation, or your name on the plinth for a £1000 donation.
This is an area where it would be useful to have the club involved. For example, a £500 donation might earn you a behind the scenes tour of the Valley.
The National Football Museum's meeting was cancelled last Thursday but they will be having one this coming Wednesday.
The Museum fellow has got back to me, and apparently the cap was on loan from the owner for a 2014 exhibition about how WW1 affected the careers of a selection of footballers, one being JS of course.
They've passed on my details to him (or her) to see if they'll sell it to me.
Fingers crossed again.
The owner is clearly receptive to the idea of the cap being on public display, and given the item is still at the museum three years after the exhibition, not in a rush to get it back. In the event they are not willing to sell to you or the price is too high, perhaps they would consider either loaning the cap to Charlton Athletic Museum or even selling to the Museum at a lower rate than they would sell to a private buyer.
Good luck.
'When I have a moment I will send you some material relating to a WWI and Football Exhibition we did in 2014. We featured Jimmy’s cap and his story alongside that of his old Sunderland teammate Tom Wilson and that of Sam Wadsworth of Blackburn and Huddersfield Town. We focused on them for a section exploring how players who were rejected by their clubs after the war then went onto big and better things elsewhere.'
He's asked me for a DVD of Ha'way the Lads for the researchers at the museum as they didn't know about it.
Age 26
1 21 May 1921 - Belgium 0 England 2, Stade du Daring Club de Bruxelles, Bruxelles Fr AW
Age 27
2 21 October 1922 - England 2 Ireland 0, The Hawthorns, West Bromwich BC HW
3 5 March 1923 - Wales 2 England 2, Ninian Park, Cardiff AD Start
4 19 March 1923 - England 6 Belgium 1, Arsenal Stadium, Highbury Fr HW goal 60th min
Age 30
5 4 April 1925 - Scotland 2 England 0, Hampden Park, Glasgow BC AL
There's a very interesting tale as to how the chap came to have the cap. Jimmy gave the cap, and a copy of his autobiography, to a close personal friend called Molly, a lady who appears in some family photo albums. She apparently turned up at Jimmy's funeral, much to the consternation of my grandmother.
One or two of you on the forum may already know about Molly. The chap who owned the cap was Molly's great nephew, and he said he'd be delighted for it to return home.
Great news
Just realised someone I know's grandfather lined up in an international game against your grandfather, small world!
The 'wee blue devil' Alan Morton, one of the Wembley wizards.
19 March 1923 - England 6 Belgium 1, Arsenal Stadium, Highbury (JS scored a goal in the 60th min)
Photo of cap shown earlier in the thread.
But there's one other missing cap and it's the one awarded for:
4 April 1925 - Scotland 2 England 0, Hampden Park, Glasgow
Caps awarded for matches against Scotland were purple, as in the photo. Jimmy’s was earned for playing in the 1925, 2-0 away defeat.
It's a long shot, but if you see one on auction with '1925' on it, please let me know!
Slightly nervous.
‘There’s many a slip twixt cup and lip.’
Newsflash: Putnam just got off at Northallerton.
Like Sky, ‘never wrong for long’.
Intriguing story behind how it came to be in Whitley Bay.
The family wanted it to return to Jimmy’s family, and wouldn’t accept a penny for it. Lovely people. Sunderland fans with accents that closely matched grandad’s.
They’ll be my guests at The Valley next time they’re down in London. Really looking forward to that. Hopefully we’ll have the cap on display at the museum by then.
Had to fork out £20 for new display heads.