BBC Sports Personality of the Year 2017 shortlist revealed

Alex Wright said:

I thought the tribute with Rag n Bone man was quite moving.

Except for putting 3 photos up at a time, very hard to read them before they had gone.

Just out of interest, did anyone on here vote?

i_b_b_o_r_g said:

Just out of interest, did anyone on here vote?

Hell to the no.

Looked at odds aj was 1/12 anyone know what price mo was

Laddick01 said:

I’m not Hamilton’s biggest fan but he achieved more this year than Farah

That's a matter of opinion, Laddick01.

I don't buy into the "drug cheat " accusations that some will inevitably reel off again.

And I don't dispute the many hours of practice that Lewis has put in over the past year to help him achieve another World F1 Champion.

But Mo has achieved year after year without any assistance from "something mechanical " - merely his legs, lung capacity and his dedication to his sport.

And I'd bet he doesn't own , or even desire, many of the ridiculously expensive "toys" that Hamilton has.

Far more a man of the people IMHO.

paulie8290 said:

Looked at odds aj was 1/12 anyone know what price mo was

just before the results Mo was 33/1 at boyle sports, 25/1 at a couple of others

AJ was actually 1/14 at bet victor

Fanny Fanackapan said:

Laddick01 said:

I’m not Hamilton’s biggest fan but he achieved more this year than Farah

That's a matter of opinion, Laddick01.

I don't buy into the "drug cheat " accusations that some will inevitably reel off again.

And I don't dispute the many hours of practice that Lewis has put in over the past year to help him achieve another World F1 Champion.

But Mo has achieved year after year without any assistance from "something mechanical " - merely his legs, lung capacity and his dedication to his sport.

And I'd bet he doesn't own , or even desire, many of the ridiculously expensive "toys" that Hamilton has.

Far more a man of the people IMHO.

I don’t think there’s any denying what Farah has done for athletics, and looking at his awards he’s more than worthy of winning SPOTY , but this year , to me it just screams sentimental voting.

While Farah is an athlete the same could be said for Hamilton. Not only having to memorise tracks , perfect lines and having an unbelievable reaction time I can’t comprehend how talented he is.

Farah has more of the ‘nice guy’ vibe around him, but after the doping allegations I just can’t warm to him as much.

rina said:

paulie8290 said:

Looked at odds aj was 1/12 anyone know what price mo was

just before the results Mo was 33/1 at boyle sports, 25/1 at a couple of others

AJ was actually 1/14 at bet victor

I know a bloke who had a four figure bet on AJ to win SPOTY, back in January. After he won in May, I was absolutely convinced he would win.

1/100 AJ to be in the final three, one of the biggest sporting betting shocks in ages.

paulie8290 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

paulie8290 said:

Looked at odds aj was 1/12 anyone know what price mo was

50/1 I think

This only a few weeks after the favouite to win stictly was voted off.

Bookies getting a few things wrong

Punters getting it wrong.

Bookies make more money when an outsider wins.

DamoNorthStand said:

Fanny Fanackapan said:

Laddick01 said:

I’m not Hamilton’s biggest fan but he achieved more this year than Farah

That's a matter of opinion, Laddick01.

I don't buy into the "drug cheat " accusations that some will inevitably reel off again.

And I don't dispute the many hours of practice that Lewis has put in over the past year to help him achieve another World F1 Champion.

But Mo has achieved year after year without any assistance from "something mechanical " - merely his legs, lung capacity and his dedication to his sport.

And I'd bet he doesn't own , or even desire, many of the ridiculously expensive "toys" that Hamilton has.

Far more a man of the people IMHO.

What classes as a man of 'the people'?

I along with all of us are part of this all encompassing group - "the people".

I think Lewis is a brilliant sportsman and I would fecking love his lifestyle!!

That's a good question and, for me, strikes right at the heart of why I don't care much for sports personality of the year. Different people like different sports; that's fine. People like different sports people; that's fine. But the Sports Personality ethos is that they are all somehow in it together supporting some undefined greater good; that is bollocks. Sports people are in it for themselves. Good luck to them. I don't mind that they win all sorts of awards and trophies within their own fields. They've put in the practice and demonstrated the skill and determination to win, that's fine. But let's not kid ourselves that they have to be men or women 'of the people'. They are just people with certain physical abilities who are for the most part just a little more obsessive about aspects of their lives than the rest of us.

Laddick01 said:

I’m not Hamilton’s biggest fan but he achieved more this year than Farah

They both won a world title but Farah also came runner up in another world title so how did Hamilton do more?

Hamilton had best car, Farah had best legs.

P.S. I am a massive Hamilton fan and would have voted Peaty myself if could be bothered by this malarkey.

eaststandmike said:

I am shocked Jonathan Rae polled over 80k in votes and beat some of the other names on the list.

The power of social media? I am staggered that only marginally over £500K vote, so much so that, if it wasn't for the fact that there is a finite group that you can vote for, I suspect a protest campaign for someone like Eddie The Eagle could be successful.