Billy clarkes season is over

And talking of players out injured, the OS said today. "Kashi is recovering from a small stress response in his heel bone ...... "

Related to his long term injury that made him miss most of 2 seasons?

SDAddick said:

charltonbob said:

SDAddick said:

I think arguably more concerning from that article is that JFC picked up a knock and will be out for a couple weeks. Kashi and Holmes are still about a week away, Bauer two, and that Fosu will need another four weeks of rehab.

There's been talk of a paper thin squad, which I don't agree with. But now is the time to show that squad depth by trusting players like Dijksteel and Aribo and KAG to come in and make an impact.

ok thanks roland, nice of you to pop in

We're in League One. Find me another team who wouldn't miss basically their entire first choice midfield/attack and their best center half. Aribo looked good second half on Saturday, as did Reeves. Marshall did not but we know he has some quality. Dijksteel was not sent out on loan presumably because it was felt he could make an impact, and now is his chance. KAG had been in good form of late. We should be able to out out a side Saturday just about capable of beating Blackpool.

Amos
Solly Konsa Sarr DaSilva
......... Aribo Dijksteel
Marshall Reeves KAG
......... Mag/Best

Obviously not our best aide, but not terrible. And on Saturday Aribo showed something we haven't had this season, the ability to pick the ball up and drive from deep in Central midfield.

And who would be on the bench- Jackson, Bowyer and Robinson?

Chef_addick said:

Gutted for Billy, him and Fosu have been my players of the season so far.

6 of the 11 that started the first game of the season are likely to be out till the new year, I would say our chance of a top 6 spot has now gone.

Season's over before Christmas, Cheers Roland.

Bit dramatic.

We're 6th with a game in hand. Even if we lost all 4 of the festive/new year games, i still don't think we'd be more than 6 points off 6th.

The key will be how quickly we can get bodies in once the window opens. Hopefully KR has some names in mind and we can get them in before Oldham. Won't hold my breath though.

Southbank said:

Essex_Al said:

palarsehater said:

if theres enough depth then that means its karls fault

i put it as 80% roland 20% karl

Why does it have to be anyone's fault?

Any club in our division would struggle with these amount of injuries.

The squad is put together too late and includes unfit players (Reeves) and obvious gaps (strikers) this season, but every season has been the same.

This.

Such a shame, was probably my choice of favourite recruit from the summer input, a Charlton type player ,who must have been in the running for Player of the Season before his injury.

Essex_Al said:

palarsehater said:

if theres enough depth then that means its karls fault

i put it as 80% roland 20% karl

Why does it have to be anyone's fault?

Any club in our division would struggle with these amount of injuries.

We're not aiming to be any club in the division, we're supposed to be aiming to be one of the top two.

Perhaps if KR had a bigger squad he'd be more likely to rotate and rest players. That's one way of reducing the chances of picking up injuries.

Maybe the fact that Aribo and Dijksteel haven't played a great deal says he doesn't have full confidence in them getting the results we need to win promotion.

If they aren't ready for that then they could go out on loan. Regular League 2 football may have benefited them far more than being back ups in League 1.

He's clearly willing to give them a chance but I'm sure he'd have liked at least a couple more signings who could push Kashi, JFC, Solly etc that bit more.

ShootersHillGuru said:

Going to be controversial here but I don’t think this crisis is particularly down to Roland. Yes the squad was short but imho only up front. This crisis where our entire midfield is crocked is down to bad luck. It’s an argument that perhaps Clarke was brought back too soon but none of us know that’s a contributing factor to his bad injury.

No league one club is awash with in depth strength and I think the midfield Robinson constructed was plenty strong enough under normal circumstances.

I do think our promotion hopes are under real pressure now and finishing sixth would be a triumph.

Agree 100%. Only difference being that I feel our team has been found out and we were destined for mid-table-plus, even before this announcement.

MartinCAFC said:

Again with the squad depth thing. I seriously think we need an actual thread on squad depth.

In CM at the start of the season we had Kashi, JFC, Konsa, Aribo, Dijksteel all capable of playing in front of the defence. There was no need to sign Josh Wright then, who would he have replaced in the team? Of course it's bad luck to lose both Kashi and JFC in the same position, one Wright could have played but do we really think he would have signed in August to sit on the bench?

We've also lost Holmes, Fosu, Clarke all at the same time yet we still have Reeves, Marshall and KAG to call on. Again how many players do we deem big enough for a squad?

Some don't seem happy unless we've got 3 players of same quality for every position!

We're missing another striker that's probably about it. My solution to that actually would be to try and sign Eoin Doyle on loan at Oldham from Preston with 10 goals in 11 games so far in this very division.

We need to replace Clarke too no doubt but as others have said now's the time for the likes of Aribo, Dijksteel, KAG etc to all step up.

Thissssss.

Said it before and will say it again, I think people assume we have no depth because Karl has either been unwilling to rotate (central midfield in particular) or at times unable to due to injuries, form, etc.

I go back to the fact that Dijksteel has played 60 minutes of league football, all of them at right back, despite Kashi and JFC looking very tired at times. Every time I've seen him, everyone who watches the U23s regularly, and seemingly a lot of people at the club think he's a real prospect.

I'm guessing Aribo hadn't played more than an hour of league football total until last Saturday. Probably not even that, probably less than 30 minutes. How many games have we needed someone with a little bit of magic to come on and unlock things? He showed on Saturday that lovely ability to just glide past players. Obviously we don't know what goes on in training but if he's capable of that, why hasn't he been brought in for the last 10-15 when we're chasing a goal?

My worry is Karl will play Jackson instead of Dijksteel (and Pearce instead of Sarr but that's another conversation), and we'll find ourselves in the position of having good young players, but those young players not being trusted to deputise for a couple games. That lack of willingness to play them far outweighs the worry of them making mistakes in my mind.

If you'd said to me at the beginning of the season we'd be in 6th just before Xmas with a game in hand on those around us, but we'd be in poor form and having to play Dijksteel and Aribo in central midfield for a game or two I would very much have taken it.

Also, there are reports that Wright is a bit of a wrong un.

To cover our no existant attack we get Best who no one else wanted----it's ground hog day with Roland and January will be the same if he is still here , expect nothing but tosh from RD and the poodles because that's what we will get

Good luck Billy

Tough tough luck for BC, all the best for a full recovery.
If they're retained through this window, Aribo, Kashi & JFC have enough about them to cope without BC but if we lose any of them then 'paper thin' will be but a memory and given roly's usual approach to resolving the fiasco he's created, we'll be getting used to a new manager/head coach/whatever by March.

Am I not right in saying that Clarke was on the field for a further 6 minutes after the tumble which did for him?

If so, would that have had a significant effect on the severity of the injury?

ShootersHillGuru said:

Going to be controversial here but I don’t think this crisis is particularly down to Roland. Yes the squad was short but imho only up front. This crisis where our entire midfield is crocked is down to bad luck. It’s an argument that perhaps Clarke was brought back too soon but none of us know that’s a contributing factor to his bad injury.

No league one club is awash with in depth strength and I think the midfield Robinson constructed was plenty strong enough under normal circumstances.

I do think our promotion hopes are under real pressure now and finishing sixth would be a triumph.

Agree to an extent but we did need at least a couple more players - a striker and probably a winger. Make that 3 with Dodoo not playing much at all.

I did think we'd have seen more of Aribo, Dijksteel and perhaps others such as Lapslie by now. Were Kashi and JFC overplayed like Magennis clearly was?

PragueAddick said:

Am I not right in saying that Clarke was on the field for a further 6 minutes after the tumble which did for him?

If so, would that have had a significant effect on the severity of the injury?

You are correct.

I'm not a doctor but my guess is probably not. If it's torn, it's torn and when you look at how he falls over it looks like he tore it on that initial fall. Obviously I don't know that and there isn't much of a way to tell, but again that fall was really bad.

There are people who don't have ACLs anymore due to a variety of factors and they're able to function. The risk would be hurting something else, which as far as we know he didn't do. If a player was playing with an ACL tear or with a hurt knee in general, it is possible for him to hurt that knee (MCL, Meniscus), but of equal if not greater concern would be hurting a muscle or joint because that knee is not functioning properly.

Wishing him a speedy recovery. It’s pathetic the way this season is unravelling once again

Fuck off Roland

why has wigan got 6 goalkeepers?