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Robinson out?

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,927
    JamesSeed said:

    Looks like the club will be sold within weeks, if not days. If it is, I think it'd be fair to give KR the chance to splash the cash and get a second half of the season challenge going.

    I don't, it would be a waste of money. For anyone coming in getting promoted this season will only be via the play-off's and that won't be easy but I'd rather they spent any money available.

  • I think Robbo knows his time is up, it can’t be a coincidence that the teams tail off has come at the same time KM’s knew her time was up.

    I’ll be surprised if he’s still here by the end of January.
  • Anyone from the board called KR to let him know the CEO has gone? Next press conference could be interesting.....
  • SE7toSG3
    SE7toSG3 Posts: 3,140
    But he was reassured the club was not for sale, surely they were not lying to him?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,444
    edited December 2017
    SE7toSG3 said:

    But he was reassured the club was not for sale, surely they were not lying to him?

    As a few will not doubt claim, it wasn't for sale but the whole approach, due diligence and purchase all happened in a week.
  • well its the unwritten golden rule in football. New Owners = New Manager does not always work out just look at..... us but hey it sometimes if the right man is employed it does work out just look at......... us.
  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,914
    edited December 2017
    If there was no change of ownership, then it didn’t make any sense to change manager. Duchatelet undermines any manager he has with his approach. I understand why some would think that he should be given a chance.

    Knowing the situation, the quality of manager willing to work under Duchatelet is questionable. If Robinson is given backing would he succeed ? It is a bit of a chicken & egg situation. Robinson has shown tactical inflexibility, & it is difficult to accept that he knew nothing of the situation he would manage in at Charlton. He blames players, refs & usually anyone but himself or Duchatelet for poor performances.

    IMO, with change of ownership & possible decent funds to spend, I think that Charlton could do a lot better. There’s a bit too much water under the bridge. I think Charlton could get a really decent manager in for a new start on & off the pitch.
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,199
    Imo I'd stick with him, he does have a lot of players out, his had his hands tied signings wise with regards to funds. Pre December some of the better football I have seen from a charlton side since scp charlton side. However only Jacko and solls remain of those. I don't think his a bad manager and I don't think his long term but I do think his the man to get us out league and and consolidate us in the championship. He think he does need an experienced coach however. Getting someone experienced to lean on aside from bowyer and Jacko who are basically still carving their coaching teeth could be his masterstroke.

    If the new owners give him 2m to spend he can alreast get a goalscorer
  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,705

    Depends on the new owners. If they have the money to give Robinson the players he needs to fit his system then I'd keep him, as he knows how to play up to the fans when things are going well. We all enjoy a victory that little bit more when the manager knows how to talk it up afterwards. If the new owners can't do that then we need someone more tactically flexible

    I think too much importance is made of his system. A good proffessional should be able to adapt to any system/formation.
  • Nug
    Nug Posts: 4,633
    He’s the best we’ve had by a long way since Powell left but I don’t think he’s the man to get us out of this league as it’s proving, he did it once with an abundance of attacking quality at MK. Under RD I would keep him but under new owners I think we need a clean slate.

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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,284

    SE7toSG3 said:

    But he was reassured the club was not for sale, surely they were not lying to him?

    As a few will not doubt claim, it wasn't for sale but the whole approach, due diligence and purchase all happened in a week.
    And why not, that's what Two Shats did isn't it? :wink:
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,878
    A serious question.

    If you are the new owner of Charlton and have just spent x amount of millions buying the club.
    Would you.

    A. Trust Robinson with a transfer budget to get us promotion.
    Or

    B.bring in your own man to do the job.
    Whatever the answer is I hope they make the right decision and we should all get behind them whatever they decide
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,199

    Depends on the new owners. If they have the money to give Robinson the players he needs to fit his system then I'd keep him, as he knows how to play up to the fans when things are going well. We all enjoy a victory that little bit more when the manager knows how to talk it up afterwards. If the new owners can't do that then we need someone more tactically flexible

    I think too much importance is made of his system. A good proffessional should be able to adapt to any system/formation.
    And in reverse a good manager must be able to switch his team when required. That's my only negative. The last couple of weeks he could and should have gone 4-4-2 given the numbers we had and players available it even 5-3-2 but instead he sticks josh out wide and best alone up top. Let's be honest if we had an owner that cared would leon best have even been given a look in? Personally I doubt it. He doesn't exactly wow you with his goals per game ratio and I've seen nothing in the games his played that makes me think it's luck that has stopped him scoring more. His just not very good imo
  • Powell back with a shed load of cash to spend to finish what he started would be my ideal scenario.
  • Get rid, bring in Nathan Jones doing wonders at Luton, we would be a step up with new owners and he knows the club.
  • Powell back with the new owners sounds good to me.
  • Might have already been posted yet he's certainly playing a risky game if he names six subs again.

    Its either
    - A message to Roland that he needs to spend in January
    - A message to the new owners that he'll need backing in January

    If the latter they might just get rid as they'll think he cant work within his means when the going gets tough
  • Powell back with a shed load of cash to spend to finish what he started would be my ideal scenario.

    All day long.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited December 2017
    Get rid of the useless scouse *ucker- he's not one of 'us' anyway.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,438
    Hard not to imagine that with a new owner the appeal of the club to potential managers suddenly increases

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  • vff
    vff Posts: 6,914
    mogodon said:

    Hard not to imagine that with a new owner the appeal of the club to potential managers suddenly increases

    .......exponentially !

  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,184
    If the new ownership can attract someone better then let's bring them in, if they can't then let's stick with KR.
  • WSA
    WSA Posts: 1,924
    edited December 2017
    Powell back with Curbs Director of Football :love:

    and Kermorgant up front.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 8,013
    I might start listening to his press conferences again, just so that I can take additional pleasure from not having to listen to them anymore when he f#*ks off in a couple of weeks and His Royal Highness Lord Christopher of Powell strolls back in, adorned in standard flat cap and sharp suit, and starts charming us all with his intelligence, integrity and comprehensive understanding of what it means to be a part of our magnificent football club.

    Scouser - stop talking and start packing, your days are numbered.
  • MrLargo said:

    I might start listening to his press conferences again, just so that I can take additional pleasure from not having to listen to them anymore when he f#*ks off in a couple of weeks and His Royal Highness Lord Christopher of Powell strolls back in, adorned in standard flat cap and sharp suit, and starts charming us all with his intelligence, integrity and comprehensive understanding of what it means to be a part of our magnificent football club.

    Scouser - stop talking and start packing, your days are numbered.

    I really despair sometimes with comments like this - Just be careful what you wish for
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,284

    MrLargo said:

    I might start listening to his press conferences again, just so that I can take additional pleasure from not having to listen to them anymore when he f#*ks off in a couple of weeks and His Royal Highness Lord Christopher of Powell strolls back in, adorned in standard flat cap and sharp suit, and starts charming us all with his intelligence, integrity and comprehensive understanding of what it means to be a part of our magnificent football club.

    Scouser - stop talking and start packing, your days are numbered.

    I really despair sometimes with comments like this - Just be careful what you wish for
    Is Mr Largo some sort of wizard then? As far as I know things don't happen just because he wishes for them.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,927
    MrLargo said:

    I might start listening to his press conferences again, just so that I can take additional pleasure from not having to listen to them anymore when he f#*ks off in a couple of weeks and His Royal Highness Lord Christopher of Powell strolls back in, adorned in standard flat cap and sharp suit, and starts charming us all with his intelligence, integrity and comprehensive understanding of what it means to be a part of our magnificent football club.

    Scouser - stop talking and start packing, your days are numbered.

    how is that worth a flag from someone? For what it’s worth I agree with Mr Largo.
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,900
    edited December 2017

    MrLargo said:

    I might start listening to his press conferences again, just so that I can take additional pleasure from not having to listen to them anymore when he f#*ks off in a couple of weeks and His Royal Highness Lord Christopher of Powell strolls back in, adorned in standard flat cap and sharp suit, and starts charming us all with his intelligence, integrity and comprehensive understanding of what it means to be a part of our magnificent football club.

    Scouser - stop talking and start packing, your days are numbered.

    how is that worth a flag from someone? For what it’s worth I agree with Mr Largo.
    Gotta say @SoundAsa£ I couldn't see how that warranted a flag mate.
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,301

    A serious question.

    If you are the new owner of Charlton and have just spent x amount of millions buying the club.
    Would you.

    A. Trust Robinson with a transfer budget to get us promotion.
    Or

    B.bring in your own man to do the job.
    Whatever the answer is I hope they make the right decision and we should all get behind them whatever they decide

    I know KR has taken a bit of flack recently and to be fair I haven’t been impressed with his steadfast commitment to 4-2-3-1, but I would like to see what he can do working for a competent owner. He’s earned that right imo
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,927
    he had a competent owner at MKD and still managed to be below us in the table when he left them.