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Konsa to Everton ?

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  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    killerandflash said:

    Oggy Red said:

    SDAddick said:

    I still think it would be best for Konsa to play regularly over the second half of the season. I think he'd really struggle to make the step up. But with that said, with all of Everton's injuries they may just be desperate for cover there.

    Tend to agree, SD. Ideally, the time to move for Konsa would be early in the summer - so that he gets a full pre-season with his new club, and time to adapt to a different locality without pressure. Like Gomez did.

    The thing is, Everton would surely be buying him for the future rather than throwing him in their first team immediately
    No doubt that would be their intention. But things can get desperate.
    Last season, Lookman was involved with the Everton 1st team squad immediately.

    It would be huge pressure and he could get ruined if he was ripped to pieces in the Prem, simply because he's not yet quite ready.
    Far better, IMO to make the move in the summer.

    But, of course, there are times when you have to grab an opportunity simply because this your big chance, even if the timing is wrong.

  • Hartleypete
    Hartleypete Posts: 4,731
    IMHO he is nowhere near a championship player let alone Premier. At times he has looked lazy and disinterested.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    edited January 2018
    Hartleypete said:

    IMHO he is nowhere near a championship player let alone Premier. At times he has looked lazy and disinterested.

    Yeah, but I think what a lot of people are saying is that lazy and disinterested doesn't equal being a bad player.
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,257
    edited January 2018
    Leaving aside the wider picture about our decimated squad, on the face of it Konsa is the first of our wunderkinds of recent seasons that i won’t particularly miss if we get a decent fee. Don’t see what all the fuss is about if I’m being honest.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    A motivated Konsa would easily be able to play Championship football and will make 50+ prem appearances IMO.

    But not in the same league as Gomez and I would be surprised if he ever gets a full cap. Although still plenty of time to develop and could yet turn into a Keane or Maguire.

    The rumoured price is nothing for a prem club these days and Everton have got it right with their young defenders recently.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,474
    cafcfan1990 said:

    A motivated Konsa would easily be able to play Championship football and will make 50+ prem appearances IMO.

    But not in the same league as Gomez and I would be surprised if he ever gets a full cap. Although still plenty of time to develop and could yet turn into a Keane or Maguire.

    The rumoured price is nothing for a prem club these days and Everton have got it right with their young defenders recently.

    £4m max is nothing really in the PL, even if a club like Hartlepool could go under for lack of a tiny fraction of that amount, but that's a different issue...
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,343
    A very good player, calm on the ball and always seem to have time. Also has good pace which is essential in the Prem.

    One can but hope that Robbo gets to loan him back.
  • The_President
    The_President Posts: 14,280
    Have we ever got any of our sold players back on loan?

  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,343
    The_President said:

    Have we ever got any of our sold players back on loan?

    But we have Robbo in our corner now.
  • HandG
    HandG Posts: 2,138
    Hartleypete said:

    IMHO he is nowhere near a championship player let alone Premier. At times he has looked lazy and disinterested.

    What times were they? He has had a few wonky moments which you would expect from a young player but and lazy and disinterested? I can't be having that at all-as far as I can see he has always given 100% despite being chopped and changed around the team. He would be a big loss to our already depeleted squad and I hope he stays until at least the end of the season.

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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,357
    Konsa is half decent but I reckon Aribo is a better player.
  • Mrkinski
    Mrkinski Posts: 963
    golfaddick said:

    Konsa is half decent but I reckon Aribo is a better player.

    Sshhhh - dont give the old scroat ideas.
  • charente addick
    charente addick Posts: 3,852
    golfaddick said:

    Konsa is half decent but I reckon Aribo is a better player.

    And has more potential.

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    golfaddick said:

    Konsa is half decent but I reckon Aribo is a better player.

    Completely different types of player.

    How can you compare?
  • Simonsen
    Simonsen Posts: 5,559
    Konsa will certainly play ok in The Championship or higher but needs to do three things;

    - Bulk up.
    - Learn to head properly (be more aggressive rather than letting the ball drop and having to turn).
    - Keep his hands down (he's always in the back of strikers and will give away far too many free-kicks)

    He's raw but talented. Whether he can be a regular for one of the top 4 clubs remains to be seen but he should be able to get established at a very decent level. If Everton buy him, they ought to loan him out to a struggling Championship team (assuming the non-strugglers already have settled defences) to see how he shapes up.

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