Injury news: Charlton Athletic team skipper set for return against Walsall
The right back has overcome his calf injury and will return - but Patrick Bauer remains out with an ankle problem and there is a doubt about Jake Forster-Caskey.
Boss Karl Robinson conceded that Forster-Caskey disregarded personal fitness by insisting on going on in the 1-0 win against Bury last weekend (January 13).
"He said to me 'gaffer we need to win this game and I don't care if I get injured' and that shows how much he cares about the club," revealed Robinson.
"He shouldn't have been anywhere near that pitch and him and Solls put their bodies stupidly at risk at the weekend but we all rallied around and if that what it takes to play for this football club then we're willing to do it."
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Isn't it the managers job to manage his players. Whilst getting the result at Bury was important was it worth the risk of an injured player extending his injury, when that player is as important as JFC is to us. Maybe the reason we are getting so many recurring injuries is because we have too many players who want to put their bodies stupidly at risk. And shouldn't the manager be managing this stupidity.18
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What's the f**king point of having a manager or anybody in charge of the players ??? Novak says on deadline day that he wants to leave - ok, son that's fine, don't worry that we don't have a replacement, we'll run the rest of the season with just 2 strikers. JFC says he wants to play even though he's not fit - no problem, get your boots on, play for 10 mins & then miss the next 5 games.ross1 said:Chris Solly is back in contention for a place in Charlton Athletic's team this weekend.
The right back has overcome his calf injury and will return - but Patrick Bauer remains out with an ankle problem and there is a doubt about Jake Forster-Caskey.
Boss Karl Robinson conceded that Forster-Caskey disregarded personal fitness by insisting on going on in the 1-0 win against Bury last weekend (January 13).
"He said to me 'gaffer we need to win this game and I don't care if I get injured' and that shows how much he cares about the club," revealed Robinson.
"He shouldn't have been anywhere near that pitch and him and Solls put their bodies stupidly at risk at the weekend but we all rallied around and if that what it takes to play for this football club then we're willing to do it."
Jesus fecking Christ. What a shambles.26 -
Couldn't have put it better myself! Or half as well if I'm honest.golfaddick said:
What's the f**king point of having a manager or anybody in charge of the players ??? Novak says on deadline day that he wants to leave - ok, son that's fine, don't worry that we don't have a replacement, we'll run the rest of the season with just 2 strikers. JFC says he wants to play even though he's not fit - no problem, get your boots on, play for 10 mins & then miss the next 5 games.ross1 said:Chris Solly is back in contention for a place in Charlton Athletic's team this weekend.
The right back has overcome his calf injury and will return - but Patrick Bauer remains out with an ankle problem and there is a doubt about Jake Forster-Caskey.
Boss Karl Robinson conceded that Forster-Caskey disregarded personal fitness by insisting on going on in the 1-0 win against Bury last weekend (January 13).
"He said to me 'gaffer we need to win this game and I don't care if I get injured' and that shows how much he cares about the club," revealed Robinson.
"He shouldn't have been anywhere near that pitch and him and Solls put their bodies stupidly at risk at the weekend but we all rallied around and if that what it takes to play for this football club then we're willing to do it."
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In one way I admire JFC's sentiment, "'gaffer we need to win this game" ........ but, "I don't care if I get injured' sounds a bit reckless to me.
JFC has already tried to come back too soon (home to Gillingham) and needed to be subbed at halftime.
One aborted comeback should have rung warning bells to him - and especially the manager and medical staff.
So last week JFC comes on for 5 minutes when he clearly wasn't ready and "now there is a doubt" whether he will be fit to face Walsall.
What on earth did the Medical Dept at Sparrows Lane have to say? If a young player can't be sensible, you'd expect his manager to make a responsible decision.
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To be honest it just sounds a bit like hyperbole to me and Robinson trying to appeal to fans by creating this sort of siege mentality. His last few interviews have very much been like this, with him portraying an us against them mentality.
Of course no matter what he says some fans are going to pick it apart and ultimately not be happy with it.19 -
It's not so much I want to pick it apart ..... but this season we've had far, far too many injuries.FishCostaFortune said:
Of course no matter what he says some fans are going to pick it apart and ultimately not be happy with it.
And players coming back and then quickly picking up another serious injury.
Clarke and Best out for the season, for example.
Who's next?
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I'm not a Robinson apologist at all, but I wouldn't blame the injury issues on him. It seems to have been an endemic issue since RD took over and is probably due to lack of, and frankly often poor, recruitment.
Also you have to remember being in league one we are often going to pick up players who may be talented but often have underlying issues such as injuries or inconsistent performances.2 -
A very good point. JFC did have injury problems before joining us. Ditto Reeves, obviously.FishCostaFortune said:I'm not a Robinson apologist at all, but I wouldn't blame the injury issues on him. It seems to have been an endemic issue since RD took over and is probably due to lack of, and frankly often poor, recruitment.
Also you have to remember being in league one we are often going to pick up players who may be talented but often have underlying issues such as injuries or inconsistent performances.
When you see that Clarke injury, it's pretty freakish in that his studs get caught in the turf and his leg just crumbles. Could it be that he was favoring something, or that there was a biomechanical disruption due to recovering from injury? Yes, certainly possible. But it's also one that could have absolutely nothing to do with previous injuries and was just a freak thing.Oggy Red said:
It's not so much I want to pick it apart ..... but this season we've had far, far too many injuries.FishCostaFortune said:
Of course no matter what he says some fans are going to pick it apart and ultimately not be happy with it.
And players coming back and then quickly picking up another serious injury.
Clarke and Best out for the season, for example.
Who's next?
We have obviously had a lot of injuries, and high rate of players coming back and getting hurt again. It's that second one that I would be looking at and wondering what's happening? Are we rushing players back? Are we not correctly preparing them and strengthening them?
All that said, you can do everything right and sometimes you can get unlucky. I think it's really, really difficult for us to assess these things from the outside.
Regarding JFC, agree that it's Karl's job as manager to manager players and not let them hurt themselves. That said, did give minutes of running around a bit impact him that greatly? I don't know. Could going through a full warm up and all that be a greater impact? Possibly. I also don't trust Robinson's injury assessments before matches, he's often misleading.
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Last Thursday Robinson stated we only had 16 fit players. After the Bury game he then stated we only had 12 fit players. Did 4 get injured on Thursday and Friday then, or was he being misleading?0
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Call me old fashioned, but that’s just the sort of spirit I wanna see from a player, take a bow JFC.4
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I admire his spirit too. Then I expect the manager to say, "that's great, son, but don't be so bloody stupid, what use is 5 minutes in this game if you then are out for another two months?"BR7_addick said:Call me old fashioned, but that’s just the sort of spirit I wanna see from a player, take a bow JFC.
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Sounds like Robinson embellishing a story to make JFC sound like a hero IMO. Not sure why he wouldn't think that putting this story out there makes it sound like he's risking the health of his squad.0
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He also had an injury crisis with us last season and a number of others previously at MK FC.FishCostaFortune said:I'm not a Robinson apologist at all, but I wouldn't blame the injury issues on him. It seems to have been an endemic issue since RD took over and is probably due to lack of, and frankly often poor, recruitment.
Also you have to remember being in league one we are often going to pick up players who may be talented but often have underlying issues such as injuries or inconsistent performances.0 -
Boss Karl Robinson conceded that Forster-Caskey disregarded personal fitness by insisting on going on in the 1-0 win against Bury last weekend (January 13).
"He said to me 'gaffer, I love you and if there’s still breath in my body I will lay down my life for you and the club , damn this thigh, I don’t care if my leg comes clean off' and that shows how much he cares about the club," revealed Robinson.
"He shouldn't have been anywhere near that pitch and yet he turned to Solls and said ‘you’re not going to let a calf strain stand in the way of a momentous victory over Bury are you?’ And Solls said to me ‘Gaffer, let me on, mid-table mediocrity depends on us, here, now, it’s time to make a stand’ then they chest bumped and ran on to the pitch growling”
“and if that what it takes to play for this football club then we're willing to do it."7 -
Things are bad. Sack the manager.0
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Surprised that you lot can’t spot a bit of extra bullshit to make a point.0
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It's probably more a case of, it's worth the risk if we manage 3 points and the blokes out there are knackered...Oggy Red said:
In one way I admire JFC's sentiment, "'gaffer we need to win this game" ........ but, "I don't care if I get injured' sounds a bit reckless to me.
JFC has already tried to come back too soon (home to Gillingham) and needed to be subbed at halftime.
One aborted comeback should have rung warning bells to him - and especially the manager and medical staff.
So last week JFC comes on for 5 minutes when he clearly wasn't ready and "now there is a doubt" whether he will be fit to face Walsall.
What on earth did the Medical Dept at Sparrows Lane have to say? If a young player can't be sensible, you'd expect his manager to make a responsible decision.0 -
karl r - to me he seems like the type whos trying to be a friend, it happens a lot with younger managers hes only a few years older then some of our players, hes 37 although he must of had the same paper round as charlie adams. of course its fine being that sort of manager when things are going well.0
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Roly will be sitting there in his shed...thinking,that's another couple of quid I could claw back then,il get Murray onto it right away...Sell,Sell,Sell...!!!Callumcafc said:Sounds like Robinson embellishing a story to make JFC sound like a hero IMO. Not sure why he wouldn't think that putting this story out there makes it sound like he's risking the health of his squad.
Just sell the club you decrepit old fuck...1 -
I think Robinson is damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t. He’s handling a crap situation at the club now but we’re still in the playoff spots. And, he is in the fans corner and isn’t an apologist for the regime. Lot to be said for that. I’m prepared to cut him some slack at the moment. For those who just don’t like ‘Gobby’, be careful what you wish for.5
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It is stupid by any means. We had JJ on the bench who could have come on and done exactly the same thing.1
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Jackson came on two mins later (in the 91st min)... Why he didnt come on before JFC and play longer though!!redman said:It is stupid by any means. We had JJ on the bench who could have come on and done exactly the same thing.
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Jacko was reported as having a tight hamstring after playing for 90 mins in the Checkershirt match a few days earlier.ForeverAddickted said:
Jackson came on two mins later (in the 91st min)... Why he didnt come on before JFC and play longer though!!redman said:It is stupid by any means. We had JJ on the bench who could have come on and done exactly the same thing.
Robbo also said he had barely 10 minutes in him, or words to that effect.
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Going on our previous with rushing injured players back, I expect to see him named as the lone striker this coming Saturday.ross1 said:Mikhail KennedyVerified account
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I hope that anti-gravity treadmill has been properly screwed to the floor.6
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Yeah but difficult to mark him as well.ForeverAddickted said:
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