The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Pity he couldn't get trouser legs of the same lengthSuedeAdidas said:
Nice cardieHenry Irving said:Tony Adams addressing the first team squad today.
New director of football so takeover must be close
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Henry Irving said:
It was a wind up
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Perhaps his Chinese name is Won Hung Lo!sm said:
Pity he couldn't get trouser legs of the same lengthSuedeAdidas said:
Nice cardieHenry Irving said:Tony Adams addressing the first team squad today.
New director of football so takeover must be close0 -
Great detective work @NapaAddick sadly I think it's for nothing.2
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It's getting hard to keep my sanity.Callumcafc said:Great detective work @NapaAddick sadly I think it's for nothing.
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Lovely view of the Alhambra from the Albaicin if I am not mistaken.4
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Back to square one then. Great.0
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Does anyone have his email address ? Now there's noCallumcafc said:Great detective work @NapaAddick sadly I think it's for nothing.
riotprotestrallypoetry reading perhaps he'd like to pop down for a look around ?1 -
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Jiang Lizhang looks like a Chinese Charles Hanson1
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Maybe try counting something? I hear that can help.....NapaAddick said:
It's getting hard to keep my sanity.Callumcafc said:Great detective work @NapaAddick sadly I think it's for nothing.
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Yet only last week I alluded to Tony Adams on this very thread. I'd been trying to find out more about Donald Muir from someone who used to be well-connected to Scottish football, albeit many years ago. He said:Henry Irving said:
It was a wind upNapaAddick said:Some info about Jiang Lizhang....
98% owner of Granada CF in 2016 for 37M Euro Btw, Lizhang sacked the Grenada manager his first day of ownership
6% part owner Minnesota Timberwolves, a second tier club in the eyes of the NBA world.
Has made good on making the Timberwolves a name in China
https://dunkingwithwolves.com/2016/12/18/timberwolves-owner-the-fruits-of-lizhang-john-jiangs-labor/
Use to own, and still runs, a successful sports marketing company, Double Edge Sports (Desports), in China. Also owns DDMC, a sports management company.
Desports bought the media rights to UEFA television broadcasts for China for $400M. So his whole life is sports.
Desports bought out the company that has exclusive broadcast rights for the Premier League, last year, for $500M.
http://www.mailmangroup.com/en/2017/07/ddmc-desports-and-super-sports-what-you-need-to-know/
Bought 60% of Parma, which is Series B. Wants to bring them up to Series A for . I like his attitude...
https://www.football-italia.net/112897/parma-will-rise-again-under-new-owner
Lizhang calls Tony Adams a "kindred spirit."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/tony-adams-granada-manager-why-10196442
Was close to buying an English Club to turnaround (Coventry was the guess of this writer) and.... ahem... a club in.... Belgium, last April...
https://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/chinese-company-close-announcing-purchase-12915174
Buys clubs below top tier and wants to bring them up... check
Buys clubs (or parts of clubs) in our price range... check
Life revolves around sports..... check
Seems to do what he promised.... check
Has money.... check
Looking for an English club.... check
If this is our guy, I am VERY excited. Keeping my fingers crossed.
"I believe Donald Muir ( the finance man ) has put together a funding package to try and buy Charlton , although there is competition from America and China . McLeish would have a minor financial interest but oversee football operations.
It’s difficult to tell how advanced they are .
One of the other interested parties has Tony Adams on the fringes!"
Maybe my pal was more in the know than I have given him credit for!
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Where's @JessieAddick when we need her?!6
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Last time I counted was to 55.6 million and it did not help me.Fumbluff said:
Maybe try counting something? I hear that can help.....NapaAddick said:
It's getting hard to keep my sanity.Callumcafc said:Great detective work @NapaAddick sadly I think it's for nothing.
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I risk sounding like Henners butcantersaddick said:Dear Mr Roland.
First let me introduce myself. My name is Will. I am 22 years old and I work as an analyst. I hear you are a big fan of young people that email you with advice and I'm told you value the views of your analysts above all else. So here is my view on what you should do.
I have had my team run complex scenario analysis and I'm afraid the outlook for you is not good. The below summary charts show the main message.
The first chart shows the money you will receive for de cloobe over time. The message is that the longer you hold on to de cloobe the less monies you will receive for it.
The second chart is based on some detailed analysis around running costs and showed that over time the money Mr Roland will be required to put into de cloobe over time will only increase.
Bringing together these two pieces of complex analysis I have created a forecast of the losses to be made by Mr Roland over time. These are shown in the third chart. I'm sorry to say Mr Roland that the story makes grim reading. If you are to sell the club today you will make a loss. However delaying the sale of the club will only increase your losses and these losses continue to grow exponentially over time.
Mr Roland our analysis concludes that the best course of action for you to take is to sell the club immediately in order to ensure losses do not escalate. There is no possible course of action that will allow you to escape without loss. No one will meet your asking price. The value is only going to fall and you will be forced to continue meeting losses. Mr Roland I urge you strongly to heed my advice. My team are well qualified and do not make mistakes.
A full detailed report will be winging its way to your inbox as we speak.
All figures critiqued and signed off by the CBR*
*Canters for Budgetary Responsibility
Yours hatefully,
Canters.
Come onnnn... If this doesn't get a promote then I never will.9 -
Cheers Hennerscantersaddick said:
I risk sounding like Henners butcantersaddick said:Dear Mr Roland.
First let me introduce myself. My name is Will. I am 22 years old and I work as an analyst. I hear you are a big fan of young people that email you with advice and I'm told you value the views of your analysts above all else. So here is my view on what you should do.
I have had my team run complex scenario analysis and I'm afraid the outlook for you is not good. The below summary charts show the main message.
The first chart shows the money you will receive for de cloobe over time. The message is that the longer you hold on to de cloobe the less monies you will receive for it.
The second chart is based on some detailed analysis around running costs and showed that over time the money Mr Roland will be required to put into de cloobe over time will only increase.
Bringing together these two pieces of complex analysis I have created a forecast of the losses to be made by Mr Roland over time. These are shown in the third chart. I'm sorry to say Mr Roland that the story makes grim reading. If you are to sell the club today you will make a loss. However delaying the sale of the club will only increase your losses and these losses continue to grow exponentially over time.
Mr Roland our analysis concludes that the best course of action for you to take is to sell the club immediately in order to ensure losses do not escalate. There is no possible course of action that will allow you to escape without loss. No one will meet your asking price. The value is only going to fall and you will be forced to continue meeting losses. Mr Roland I urge you strongly to heed my advice. My team are well qualified and do not make mistakes.
A full detailed report will be winging its way to your inbox as we speak.
All figures critiqued and signed off by the CBR*
*Canters for Budgetary Responsibility
Yours hatefully,
Canters.
Come onnnn... If this doesn't get a promote then I never will.1 -
Shh Lukey boy. ShhhCAFC Luke said:
Cheers Hennerscantersaddick said:
I risk sounding like Henners butcantersaddick said:Dear Mr Roland.
First let me introduce myself. My name is Will. I am 22 years old and I work as an analyst. I hear you are a big fan of young people that email you with advice and I'm told you value the views of your analysts above all else. So here is my view on what you should do.
I have had my team run complex scenario analysis and I'm afraid the outlook for you is not good. The below summary charts show the main message.
The first chart shows the money you will receive for de cloobe over time. The message is that the longer you hold on to de cloobe the less monies you will receive for it.
The second chart is based on some detailed analysis around running costs and showed that over time the money Mr Roland will be required to put into de cloobe over time will only increase.
Bringing together these two pieces of complex analysis I have created a forecast of the losses to be made by Mr Roland over time. These are shown in the third chart. I'm sorry to say Mr Roland that the story makes grim reading. If you are to sell the club today you will make a loss. However delaying the sale of the club will only increase your losses and these losses continue to grow exponentially over time.
Mr Roland our analysis concludes that the best course of action for you to take is to sell the club immediately in order to ensure losses do not escalate. There is no possible course of action that will allow you to escape without loss. No one will meet your asking price. The value is only going to fall and you will be forced to continue meeting losses. Mr Roland I urge you strongly to heed my advice. My team are well qualified and do not make mistakes.
A full detailed report will be winging its way to your inbox as we speak.
All figures critiqued and signed off by the CBR*
*Canters for Budgetary Responsibility
Yours hatefully,
Canters.
Come onnnn... If this doesn't get a promote then I never will.0 -
I cant view twitter or facebook as I'm out in Hangzhou (SE China) currently, what is this about Chinese buyers? Someone let me know and I'll try and do some digging, only here now until Monday evening.1
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Don’t get me going again, Arse.Arsenetatters said:
ethereum..... hmmmm.... is that another word I shouldn't google?buckshee said:I’ll add all my ethereum, but hurry as very soon it’ll be worth less than the £1.
You got me into trouble with teacher last time.2 -
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So do I, and he’s working in rather difficult circumstances.Dazzler21 said:
I believe him too.Pelling1993 said:
Hahaha, I fucking love RobinsonBubble said:And Robinson is still in the dark about the club’s future.
He added: “I still don’t know if the takeover’s going to happen in a week or five months. I heard there are people speaking to the owners but that’s all I know.
“We’re in the dark over that. I’ve been told that’s not my job, my job is to manage the team, and everything above me will take care of itself.
“I’d like to know more, obviously. But maybe with me knowing more, people know how honest I am, I’d just tell you, so that’s probably why they don't tell me!”1 -
EDIT: Can't seem to quote @J BLOCK's tweet earlier in this thread about the HK acquisition firm tweeting about being interested in buying any EFL league 1 club but will also consider league 2 on behalf of US investors.J BLOCK said:Not sure if this is of relevance
FFS. What an utter shit show our game in has England become. How have we let this happen?
Our clubs will just become temporary playthings for corporations, grotesque billionaires and private equity investors.
I've lived and breathed the game since being about 5 years old and even remember thinking as a kid on occasion where I'd meet someone who decline no interest in it "What's the point of life if you're not into football ?"
Not naive enough to ignore that football and the wider world has changed and the realist in me knows that the only route to success is to sell out to an ego/ commercially- driven ownership with absolutely no link to the club and who couldn't care less whether they're buying Barnet or Barnsley.
But the fact that you now can casually tweet about acquiring a club, any arbitrary club, with unique history, tradition and dedicated fan base of thousands who have spent their lives devoted to them, and materially shape their future, prosperity (and very survival) in a manner as if you're looking to purchase a pair of shoes is devastating in the context of the English game. What's more is regardless of the laughably inept "fit and proper" supposed filter process the reality seems to be that it is as easy as buying a pair of loafers and sod the consequences to the institutions that have stood as a focal point in our towns and cities and their inhabitants for over a century.
Never envisaged that I'd ever think this but I can't see myself following the game in 5-10 years if it carries on on this trajectory.
Utterly depressing.38 -
I agree to an extent RCT but if somebody with money - forever he or whoever - had turned up at the valley before we left for selhurst - that whole episode wouldn't have happened - and that was far more depressing than this situation - think people need to cheer up - got a good loan in, another striker likely, hated owner selling and we r 6th and re grouping for a promotion push - it's all down to what u want to believe at the moment anc my glass is half full0
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Foreign not forever0
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We were top 6 in championship (div2) and promoted to Div1 at selhurst mate, this is worse.DOUCHER said:I agree to an extent RCT but if somebody with money - forever he or whoever - had turned up at the valley before we left for selhurst - that whole episode wouldn't have happened - and that was far more depressing than this situation - think people need to cheer up - got a good loan in, another striker likely, hated owner selling and we r 6th and re grouping for a promotion push - it's all down to what u want to believe at the moment anc my glass is half full
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In your opinionCharltonparklane said:
We were top 6 in championship (div2) and promoted to Div1 at selhurst mate, this is worse.DOUCHER said:I agree to an extent RCT but if somebody with money - forever he or whoever - had turned up at the valley before we left for selhurst - that whole episode wouldn't have happened - and that was far more depressing than this situation - think people need to cheer up - got a good loan in, another striker likely, hated owner selling and we r 6th and re grouping for a promotion push - it's all down to what u want to believe at the moment anc my glass is half full
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I see that not just for football but for the whole of England. We have sold everything like companies, shops/pubs, High Streets, housing, development land etc to the highest bidder and more often than not to investors who have no interest beyond profit.RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
EDIT: Can't seem to quote @J BLOCK's tweet earlier in this thread about the HK acquisition firm tweeting about being interested in buying any EFL league 1 club but will also consider league 2 on behalf of US investors.J BLOCK said:Not sure if this is of relevance
FFS. What an utter shit show our game in has England become. How have we let this happen?
Our clubs will just become temporary playthings for corporations, grotesque billionaires and private equity investors.
I've lived and breathed the game since being about 5 years old and even remember thinking as a kid on occasion where I'd meet someone who decline no interest in it "What's the point of life if you're not into football ?"
Not naive enough to ignore that football and the wider world has changed and the realist in me knows that the only route to success is to sell out to an ego/ commercially- driven ownership with absolutely no link to the club and who couldn't care less whether they're buying Barnet or Barnsley.
But the fact that you now can casually tweet about acquiring a club, any arbitrary club, with unique history, tradition and dedicated fan base of thousands who have spent their lives devoted to them, and materially shape their future, prosperity (and very survival) in a manner as if you're looking to purchase a pair of shoes is devastating in the context of the English game. What's more is regardless of the laughably inept "fit and proper" supposed filter process the reality seems to be that it is as easy as buying a pair of loafers and sod the consequences to the institutions that have stood as a focal point in our towns and cities and their inhabitants for over a century.
Never envisaged that I'd ever think this but I can't see myself following the game in 5-10 years if it carries on on this trajectory.
Utterly depressing.
We (as a nation) have made a profit and short term gain but at a greater long term cost.
I know this makes me sound 'conservative' but it is not the case. I like change and like renewal but I like it to be sustainable and inclusive.21 -
I have just received a photo of the teams for the valley helpers v club staff match on the pitch at the end of the game in 1992 - it's in a frame and I will be hanging it up but if the museum would like a scanned copy I can upload it onto here or pop a copy into the museum - is it open on match days? If so, what time and how do you get to it? If not open is there a letterbox? If wanted let me know - proper Charlton picture3
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I hate Roland with a passion but nothing was worse than losing the valley and playing at shithurst imo.Charltonparklane said:
We were top 6 in championship (div2) and promoted to Div1 at selhurst mate, this is worse.DOUCHER said:I agree to an extent RCT but if somebody with money - forever he or whoever - had turned up at the valley before we left for selhurst - that whole episode wouldn't have happened - and that was far more depressing than this situation - think people need to cheer up - got a good loan in, another striker likely, hated owner selling and we r 6th and re grouping for a promotion push - it's all down to what u want to believe at the moment anc my glass is half full
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End of last seasonPopIcon said:
Chinese were shown around ages ago, think it was November.flyingkiwiDK said:
Are you toying with us @Airman Brown or do you actually know more than you’re letting on?Airman Brown said:
Maybe his Chinese isn’t that good.Addickted said:
I think if I saw "people being shown round the training ground" that as Manager, I might want to introduce myself and find out who they are.Henry Irving said:From the OS interview with Robinson today
Takeover talks ongoing
“I’m not sure of on goings regarding the takeover. I’ve seen people be shown round the training ground and the facilities but I’m but unsure on names of consortiums. I know just as much as you do.
“There are still going to be many different obstacles to try and overcome and it’s concerning that the takeover talk is happening in the middle of January, as we need to bring in more players.
“I still don’t know if the takeover is going to happen in a week or five months, we’re in the dark over that.
“My job is to manage the team and everything above me will take care of itself.”
Not like KR to be shy at coming forward. Particularly as his job may be at risk.0
