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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • HardyAddick
    HardyAddick Posts: 1,638
    bobmunro said:

    J BLOCK said:

    The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    One party must be RH's lot then - praying for them
    If both parties agreed the price then presumably it's the same price!

    All RH's super-rich bidders would need to do is raise their offer by £1 and a roll of Duck tape - surely?
    If 2 bidders offer the same and some of the consideration is deferred eg promotion to Prem etc, Roland has to weigh up the strength of each party to get us to the Prem. How much money each party has is therefore important - the richer the better.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,129
    edited February 2018
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  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852

    bobmunro said:

    J BLOCK said:

    The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    One party must be RH's lot then - praying for them
    If both parties agreed the price then presumably it's the same price!

    All RH's super-rich bidders would need to do is raise their offer by £1 and a roll of Duck tape - surely?
    If 2 bidders offer the same and some of the consideration is deferred eg promotion to Prem etc, Roland has to weigh up the strength of each party to get us to the Prem. How much money each party has is therefore important - the richer the better.
    Yes, but - if the mega rich guy wants to buy he won't be structuring part payments based on promotion - all upfront - cash!!
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,016

    bobmunro said:

    J BLOCK said:

    The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    One party must be RH's lot then - praying for them
    If both parties agreed the price then presumably it's the same price!

    All RH's super-rich bidders would need to do is raise their offer by £1 and a roll of Duck tape - surely?
    If 2 bidders offer the same and some of the consideration is deferred eg promotion to Prem etc, Roland has to weigh up the strength of each party to get us to the Prem. How much money each party has is therefore important - the richer the better.
    Yes, but when you're senile that's no easy task.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,016
    Rudders22 said:

    Airman Brown, can you pm me with who the parties are pls? I will keep stum.. thanks will appreciate that.

    Yeah, me too. I won't say nuffink, honest guv.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,852

    Rudders22 said:

    Airman Brown, can you pm me with who the parties are pls? I will keep stum.. thanks will appreciate that.

    Yeah, me too. I won't say nuffink, honest guv.
    Wasting your time - Bexley Boy is the only one ITK. I've messaged him on the other place but no reply as of yet.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,004
    Don't bother to pm me Airman Brown, basically, it does not matter who they are, and if RD sells to them, then so be it and we have to see if they are any better than previous owners
  • The premise of the Jimenez/Cash scheme was that the council would only grant residential consent for certain parts of the peninsula site if Charlton moved there and they would use their compulsory purchase power to secure that objective. We don’t have that from the council but we do have it in a professional report of a meeting with the council presented to the High Court.

    I haven’t studied the latest situation with the land, but the idea was clearly that the massive profit from residential consent would pay for a new stadium as well as lining the pockets of the people who made it possible by moving the club. Sale of The Valley would potentially enable “affordable” homes to be built there and allow the more expensive land at the peninsula to accommodate dearer properties than would otherwise be the case. But profit from selling/developing The Valley would not pay for a new stadium and the necessary infrastructure at the peninsula of itself - by a very wide margin.

    We were in 2013 - and are now - many years away from such a scheme being deliverable. The council has to justify compulsory purchase and can be challenged in court by the landowner.

    In my opinion nobody is buying the club on the basis of such a scheme in 2018, any more than they were in 2013.

    It does throw out some interesting pointers as to why the deal is taking so long and why someone is prepared to pay £45 or £50mn for a Club clearly worth £25 to £30mn tops. Don't write off this possibility Australian Group has people that have large Property Portfolios and a Multi Purpose Stadium with Residential/Social/Student Housing surrounding it is a very viable proposition, add in commercial outlets and it starts to have wings.
    It may also answer the question about Directors Loans, they pay them off when they are ready to do the Property deal and roll over initially.
    Also if the buyer has deep pockets and is already a big Property Player as well as Football Fan, with big ambitions say over 10 years to become a Premier League player, wouldn't you make sure you have big enough money making stadiun ultimately to compete,it would go hand in hand with someone with a grand vision that we would all buy into.
    Come on, no more Red Bull or @AFKABartram is going to shut Charlton Life down.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    ross1 said:

    Don't bother to pm me Airman Brown, basically, it does not matter who they are, and if RD sells to them, then so be it and we have to see if they are any better than previous owners

    Agreed - and to be honest, he PM’d me th identity of the new owners and I was seriously underwhelmed - not much better than what we already have.
  • J BLOCK said:

    The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    One party must be RH's lot then - praying for them
    To Allah though

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  • Macronate said:

    J BLOCK said:

    The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    One party must be RH's lot then - praying for them
    Rolf Harris?
    Can you tell who it is yet?
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Alex McLeish new Scotland manager for two years.
  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    Whether they are in a position to make a winning bid or not, as Airman says, it is likely that any Aussie bid would probably coalesce to give it more capital.

    I would imagine that, broadly speaking, AFC's objectives are likely to be the same as Andrew Muir's, so apart from possible disagreements about e.g the amount of shares given to each contributor, who gets to call the shots or which staff they want to employ etc. I could see them recognising that pooling their finances would lead to a more powerful consortium which would have improved chances of succeeding in their primary aim; creating a winning football team with an expanding fanbase.

    I await with interest!
  • Alex McLeish new Scotland manager for two years.

    Good luck to him but he's going to need to plenty of Red Bull if he's going to cope with that commute from Greenwich Peninsula to Edinburgh.
  • CatAddick
    CatAddick Posts: 2,387

    Whether they are in a position to make a winning bid or not, as Airman says, it is likely that any Aussie bid would probably coalesce to give it more capital.

    I would imagine that, broadly speaking, AFC's objectives are likely to be the same as Andrew Muir's, so apart from possible disagreements about e.g the amount of shares given to each contributor, who gets to call the shots or which staff they want to employ etc. I could see them recognising that pooling their finances would lead to a more powerful consortium which would have improved chances of succeeding in their primary aim; creating a winning football team with an expanding fanbase.

    I await with interest!

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    Sums up Roland. Not enough of one, and too much of the other

    (the fact he’s a dick doesn’t help)
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,358

    Fumbluff said:

    3blokes said:

    So far we’ve been about to be taken over by a horse, bull and a kangaroo...


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    Would ya?
    I would be Most Daunted...

    What no applause?
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,921
    Alex McLeish has just been appointed for a second spell as Scotland manager.
  • Ferryman said:

    Alex McLeish has just been appointed for a second spell as Scotland manager.

    Yeah I read that on the Mc!eish is new Scotland manager thread.
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,129
    Is that the twitter of that yts bloke that Roland put in as 1st team coach here?

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  • Fumbluff said:

    Is that the twitter of that yts bloke that Roland put in as 1st team coach here?
    That was Chris O'Loughlin but Roland did not force him on us, "honest" Karl asked for him to stay apparently.
  • The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    How can it be a “done deal” if there are at least two other parties in the mix?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,236

    The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    How can it be a “done deal” if there are at least two other parties in the mix?
    Deal agreed not done?

    WIOTOS
  • J BLOCK said:

    The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    One party must be RH's lot then - praying for them
    @Redhenry can you confirm whether or not the Man City rich bidders are still on the scene please?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited February 2018

    The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    How can it be a “done deal” if there are at least two other parties in the mix?
    Haven’t we been through this a few times already, with all due respect?
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,129
    edited February 2018
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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,745

    The fundraising in the City goes back a few weeks. It doesn’t necessarily tell you about the current situation. Personally, I’ve always been sceptical that there are two separate Aussie interested parties. It’s just as likely that one is a progression of the other.

    The legal source is sticking with “done deal”, while I’ve also heard that two parties agreed a price.

    How can it be a “done deal” if there are at least two other parties in the mix?
    Two different sources.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,016
    A done deal is imminent.
  • Rudders22
    Rudders22 Posts: 3,868
    How imminent Covered End?
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