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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,088
    DA9 said:

    For a small bunch they didn’t shut up all game and didn’t half throw a decent mental when they scored.

    That was quite impressive
    Those Sweden flags though...
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859

    By comparison millsmall had 12,568 for their semi final play off first leg

    I'm going to assume that you specifically went to look that up just to try and take a small, and completely irrelevant, crumb of comfort from last nights result.

    I hate to break it to you but that stat wont give you any extra impetus for the away leg (where, to save you the time after Sundays game, we took 1200 fans to Scunthorpe for our fixture last year).

    You're definitely obsessed, mate :wink:
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,344
    msomerton said:

    At least last nights attendance figures put to bed the idea that crowds will pick up when Roland sells. Once people stop attending they get out of the habit and do not return. Roland or no the gates will be around 8,00 or below which ever league we are in except for the premiership.

    No. People are boycotting.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,868
    kentred2 said:

    msomerton said:

    At least last nights attendance figures put to bed the idea that crowds will pick up when Roland sells. Once people stop attending they get out of the habit and do not return. Roland or no the gates will be around 8,00 or below which ever league we are in except for the premiership.

    No. People are boycotting.
    the returning boycotters will account for 500 absolute tops in my opinion
  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,770
    We’d have probably got another 3,000 on the Saturday. Virtually every midweek crowd in the last ten years has been well below the weekend equivalent and “big game” as it was, it was still a weeknight, on the telly and Shrewsbury Town.

    As much as it drew other people out, midweeks are a problem for many families with kids and the chunk of our support who live 50 plus miles away. It’s easy to forget that, but if you put the game on the box it will make it easier for them to stay away. I wouldn’t read too much into the numbers.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,121
    msomerton said:

    At least last nights attendance figures put to bed the idea that crowds will pick up when Roland sells. Once people stop attending they get out of the habit and do not return. Roland or no the gates will be around 8,00 or below which ever league we are in except for the premiership.

    How exactly? Roland is still the owner.

    Also a crowd of almost 15k for a thursday night game live on sky, is hardly an indication that crowds won't increase when RD is gone.
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,344

    kentred2 said:

    msomerton said:

    At least last nights attendance figures put to bed the idea that crowds will pick up when Roland sells. Once people stop attending they get out of the habit and do not return. Roland or no the gates will be around 8,00 or below which ever league we are in except for the premiership.

    No. People are boycotting.
    the returning boycotters will account for 500 absolute tops in my opinion
    Vast understatement. I know 20 plus.
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,868
    and every one of those 20 will say 'I know 20 boycotters'....but at the end of the day that's still only 20.
  • kentred2
    kentred2 Posts: 2,344

    and every one of those 20 will say 'I know 20 boycotters'....but at the end of the day that's still only 20.

    You sound like a Tory Chancellor. Trouble with numbers.
    I was going to say time will tell but with the rumoured terms of the sale maybe it won’t.
  • thickandthin63
    thickandthin63 Posts: 2,972
    Cant believe that figure,north stand was full west maybe two thirds,I sat in east so could not really see,but crowd looked about 16-17000 to me

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  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,915
    kentred2 said:

    and every one of those 20 will say 'I know 20 boycotters'....but at the end of the day that's still only 20.

    You sound like a Tory Chancellor. Trouble with numbers.
    I was going to say time will tell but with the rumoured terms of the sale maybe it won’t.
    We’ll soon be able to put the theory to the test next season and look round the ground and see how many turnouts improve on what was seen last night, even accounting for the return of the freebies and families that didn’t go last night.

    It won’t be many
  • Whatever it was, it come across great and supportive on the telly. Well done all those there tonight who backed the team well. Even the West Upper were at it!

    Would rather have 14k getting behind the team like that than 25k people who want to see Premier League football


    Hmm. Well maybe watching on an illegal stream makes a difference, but I thought the crowd overall sounded a lot less supportive than against Plymouth and Rotherham. For sure I could hear the Covered End chanting all the way through but it sounded disconnected from the rest of the mainly silent crowd. Sorry, but that's how it sounded to me. Believe me I wanted it to be better, I was up for this, and the whole thing was a bit of an anti climax. Kicking the wrong way didn't help, as you said on the match thread.
    I think you need to find a better feed in future mate . The place was buzzing all night and the atmosphere was superb.
    I watched on Sky and I thought the fans sounded amazing all night. The Shrewsbury fans had a bit of a sing after they scored, but it was the Charlton fans I could hear the most through my TV.
  • Won't be anywhere near 20000 for a long time. A lot of fans won't come back - I think the bond with the club has been broken.

    What worries me is the terms of any takeover - we may not be a lot better off.

  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,977
    That figure can't be right. North was packed, East was busier than normal. West Lower was ram-jam full.

    Definitely a Diane Abbott count going on there
  • Bedsaddick
    Bedsaddick Posts: 24,814

    Won't be anywhere near 20000 for a long time. A lot of fans won't come back - I think the bond with the club has been broken.

    What worries me is the terms of any takeover - we may not be a lot better off.

    Then they aren’t real fans if they still stay away after a takeover . End of .
  • Won't be anywhere near 20000 for a long time. A lot of fans won't come back - I think the bond with the club has been broken.

    What worries me is the terms of any takeover - we may not be a lot better off.

    A lot of it will obviously depend on what division we are in. We have no chance of reaching those numbers in League One and for the the most part, the Championship. It's possible that if we win the play-offs and have a great season where we are sitting near the top for long periods, we might see the attendance creep up to that kind of level, but even in the Premier League where we packed the ground out every week, there were a lot of neutrals/other supporters who made up the numbers. Those guys aren't exactly going to come and watch us grind out results in lower divisions.

    Whilst there are a number of people boycotting, I think disillusionment has a larger part to play. Whether that is with the club in general or the football itself I don't know, but I suspect it's a mix of both.
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    the turnstiles in Landsdowne Mews were broken, so no record of those entrants, but I guess this is based on sales not people coming in
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,915
    Swisdom said:

    That figure can't be right. North was packed, East was busier than normal. West Lower was ram-jam full.

    Definitely a Diane Abbott count going on there

    Viewing from the telly, I really don’t think it was
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,579
    Swisdom said:

    That figure can't be right. North was packed, East was busier than normal. West Lower was ram-jam full.

    Definitely a Diane Abbott count going on there

    I normally sit in the West Lower but last night sat in The East & was suprised how empty both tiers of the West looked,The Covered End was the only part of the ground anywhere near to capacity.14,367 seems about right.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,243

    By comparison millsmall had 12,568 for their semi final play off first leg

    I'm going to assume that you specifically went to look that up just to try and take a small, and completely irrelevant, crumb of comfort from last nights result.

    I hate to break it to you but that stat wont give you any extra impetus for the away leg (where, to save you the time after Sundays game, we took 1200 fans to Scunthorpe for our fixture last year).

    You're definitely obsessed, mate :wink:
    I thought it was a pathetically small gate and so wanted to compare it to a pathetically small club with a similar fixture , where better than smallwall for that comparison
    in fact i was disappointed your crowd wasn't bigger so i could slate our numbers (it's what i do)
    and in fact 1200 for a same time similar distance is a poor turn out as well
    ffs millwall you're not helping my point that our away support ,numbers for our touchy fans, is poor


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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,031

    We’d have probably got another 3,000 on the Saturday. Virtually every midweek crowd in the last ten years has been well below the weekend equivalent and “big game” as it was, it was still a weeknight, on the telly and Shrewsbury Town.

    As much as it drew other people out, midweeks are a problem for many families with kids and the chunk of our support who live 50 plus miles away. It’s easy to forget that, but if you put the game on the box it will make it easier for them to stay away. I wouldn’t read too much into the numbers.

    Some elderly supporters don't go to midweek games also, due to the travel issues. Was talking to one last night who made an exception for this game

    Of course as they generally have season tickets, they "attendance" would have counted if this had been a normal league game!
  • razil
    razil Posts: 15,041
    the club must be counting unused comps as well as Sts in their normal gate count, as last night was deffo above average attendance from what I could see in all home stands, although not by an enormous amount, maybe 2-3k
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,126
    777 was a decent turn out from the Shrews on 4 days notice.

    I think the shock at the attendance is because it didn't include season ticket holders who didn't turn up. Makes you wonder what some of our attendances really were this season!
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859

    By comparison millsmall had 12,568 for their semi final play off first leg

    I'm going to assume that you specifically went to look that up just to try and take a small, and completely irrelevant, crumb of comfort from last nights result.

    I hate to break it to you but that stat wont give you any extra impetus for the away leg (where, to save you the time after Sundays game, we took 1200 fans to Scunthorpe for our fixture last year).

    You're definitely obsessed, mate :wink:
    I thought it was a pathetically small gate and so wanted to compare it to a pathetically small club with a similar fixture , where better than smallwall for that comparison
    in fact i was disappointed your crowd wasn't bigger so i could slate our numbers (it's what i do)
    and in fact 1200 for a same time similar distance is a poor turn out as well
    ffs millwall you're not helping my point that our away support ,numbers for our touchy fans, is poor

    1200 allocation. 1200 sold. I'm assuming you'll sell your allocation for Shrewsbury and then take over the home ends. I look forward to hearing about it.

    I hate to break it to you but, at the moment, out of the two clubs, you are actually the pathetically small one. This is despite our pathetically small crowds and pathetic history where we have, rather pathetically, not won very much.

    You're right, some of you are very touchy.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,243
    edited May 2018
    You don’t have to tell me how pathetic we are , every minute we are below smallwall I know we are underperforming and running well below par
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,196

    By comparison millsmall had 12,568 for their semi final play off first leg

    I'm going to assume that you specifically went to look that up just to try and take a small, and completely irrelevant, crumb of comfort from last nights result.

    I hate to break it to you but that stat wont give you any extra impetus for the away leg (where, to save you the time after Sundays game, we took 1200 fans to Scunthorpe for our fixture last year).

    You're definitely obsessed, mate :wink:
    I thought it was a pathetically small gate and so wanted to compare it to a pathetically small club with a similar fixture , where better than smallwall for that comparison
    in fact i was disappointed your crowd wasn't bigger so i could slate our numbers (it's what i do)
    and in fact 1200 for a same time similar distance is a poor turn out as well
    ffs millwall you're not helping my point that our away support ,numbers for our touchy fans, is poor

    The real tough test in matching them will come if we get to Wembley. When they have been to Wembley, the Diaspora crawls out from the woodwork. The ones who claim to be 'Wall but when you test them by asking who started at centre back last Saturday, will answer "er, I think Barry Kitchener". My Spanner mate here in Prague is a perfect example. Been to Wembley twice but never to the New Toolbox. Doesn't even know why I call him a "Spanner".

  • Baldybonce
    Baldybonce Posts: 9,679
    Crowd looked about right to me.
    I wonder how many were put off by the online ticketing and the impression given by the club that queing on the night was a bad idea.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,126

    By comparison millsmall had 12,568 for their semi final play off first leg

    I'm going to assume that you specifically went to look that up just to try and take a small, and completely irrelevant, crumb of comfort from last nights result.

    I hate to break it to you but that stat wont give you any extra impetus for the away leg (where, to save you the time after Sundays game, we took 1200 fans to Scunthorpe for our fixture last year).

    You're definitely obsessed, mate :wink:
    I thought it was a pathetically small gate and so wanted to compare it to a pathetically small club with a similar fixture , where better than smallwall for that comparison
    in fact i was disappointed your crowd wasn't bigger so i could slate our numbers (it's what i do)
    and in fact 1200 for a same time similar distance is a poor turn out as well
    ffs millwall you're not helping my point that our away support ,numbers for our touchy fans, is poor

    1200 allocation. 1200 sold. I'm assuming you'll sell your allocation for Shrewsbury and then take over the home ends. I look forward to hearing about it.

    I hate to break it to you but, at the moment, out of the two clubs, you are actually the pathetically small one. This is despite our pathetically small crowds and pathetic history where we have, rather pathetically, not won very much.

    You're right, some of you are very touchy.
    Using your way of measuring a club size, are Bournemouth bigger than Leeds?
  • SheffieldRed
    SheffieldRed Posts: 3,772

    777 was a decent turn out from the Shrews on 4 days notice.

    Thought it was poor.

    Biggest game for ages. They will have London based supporters. Other clubs with similar sized support would have brought more.

    Having said that those that came gave their team good backing

  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,196

    777 was a decent turn out from the Shrews on 4 days notice.

    Thought it was poor.

    Biggest game for ages. They will have London based supporters. Other clubs with similar sized support would have brought more.

    Having said that those that came gave their team good backing

    think that's a bit unfair. Have you ever met anyone in your life who claimed to support them? Or even comes from there? Not me, even going back to Uni days. I can think of at least one Scunny fan for example (the Guardian reporter who covered the Valley Party). And one of my best mates is Blackpool born and bred. Old boss at the London agency was Plymouth, etc, etc. But Shrewsbury? Nope.

    Hats off to them, I say.