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  • And who is the opener on one leg?
  • lolwray said:

    i dont think KF was comparing the two premier leagues directly ,pointing out that the standard is probably higher than say first team div 5 which is where they aspire to be if promoted ..which it is
    Correct - sorry for the confusion and maybe div 4 as well
  • Sorry - Australia U18 Captain playing in the 3s and a one legged man ?? Sounds like a game to have watched
    The two matches being played concurrently at Loring Hall were unusual in that the sides batting first reached 45 runs for the loss of (i) no wickets (our match) and (ii) 8 wickets (the Australian U18 captain/one legged man match) respectively.

    Remarkably the team that was on 45-8 (and soon after 50 odd for 9) ended up scoring the most runs (158 versus 135). What are the odds of that?
  • And who is the opener on one leg?

    I know who that is now - George Newell. But please do tell me who the Australia U18 captain is because I do the League Registrations and really should know if that is/was the case!
  • That Studley (or something) chap. One of the team on the sidelines definitely told me he was Australia's U18 captain, but that may have been a mistake on his part
  • Well I have no idea then. Maybe they were bullshitting me
  • Leuth said:

    Well I have no idea then. Maybe they were bullshitting me

    I think they might have been - and caught rather a big one in the process!
  • I think they might have been - and caught rather a big one in the process!
    It's not as difficult as it seems to get Leuth believing something outlandish, to be honest...

  • I don't know about being paid a "wedge" 'cos Bexley isn't a rish club by any means. As I've said before, half the first team has come through the Colts system and all bar one or two of the 2s too.

    It's quite a flexible situation but Crossy is happy to let Stids keep if he wants but has requested that if he is due to go off for international duty that he takes the gloves. I think Callum Basey is happy to concentrate on opening but will keep if necessary as when Stids was injured last season and Crossy was away.

    As for Seb, he has always been a batsman first and foremost. The leg spin he bowled (up to U11) and then keeping have been his secondary specialisms - the issue has been that his keeping has got him into the 2s as he wouldn't get into the side, such is the strength of our top 6, as a batsman. It was for that reason that he/we elected for him not to trial at Kent this year as the situation might have been that he batted at 8 for the 2s on Saturday and 6 or 7 for Kent on a Sunday. So how would he learn, in those circumstance, to bat for 40 or 50 overs? And in order to get into the 1s he will have to be able to bat in their top 6 but you don't get there without that experience so we will just see how he does this season and take it from there.
    I understood that all of the Bexley 1st Team were paid one way or another - either as a appearance fee or as a bonus if they performed well.

    I know who that is now - George Newell. But please do tell me who the Australia U18 captain is because I do the League Registrations and really should know if that is/was the case!</blockquote

    Can Seb not bat top 6 and keep in the 3s and come into the 2s as a Batsman / Keeper than a Keeper that bats 8 ?

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  • I am not party to any knowledge of what happens in the First Team with regards to any payments as I do not sit on the main Committee but, if that is the case, the sooner he gets in the 1s the better. I do come from an era when no one was paid to play as we were all amateurs so it wasn't an option for me in any event as I was only ever a 3rd team player but do, sometimes, wish it was still like that.

    Such is the strength of the Club that Seb wouldn't be guaranteed a 3rd team batting spot/keeping position and hasn't proven himself worthy of that either. They have a perfectly good player to fill that role in any event. It is a "chicken and egg" situation in so far as if you don't get the chance then you can't prove yourself, hence the hope that a run in the Development X1 in the top 3 or 4 will do that for him. What I will also say is that he has also been small for his age - until he shot up in the last six months that is so he now has no excuses in that regard.
  • I am not party to any knowledge of what happens in the First Team with regards to any payments as I do not sit on the main Committee but, if that is the case, the sooner he gets in the 1s the better. I do come from an era when no one was paid to play as we were all amateurs so it wasn't an option for me in any event as I was only ever a 3rd team player but do, sometimes, wish it was still like that.

    Such is the strength of the Club that Seb wouldn't be guaranteed a 3rd team batting spot/keeping position and hasn't proven himself worthy of that either. They have a perfectly good player to fill that role in any event. It is a "chicken and egg" situation in so far as if you don't get the chance then you can't prove yourself, hence the hope that a run in the Development X1 in the top 3 or 4 will do that for him. What I will also say is that he has also been small for his age - until he shot up in the last six months that is so he now has no excuses in that regard.

    It seems to be prevelent everywhere these days - i suppose clubs come back to a " If you cant beat them join them" attitude, as long as they can fund it in the long run.

    If he can put together a run of a few big scores against meaningful oppo then that cant do him any harm.
  • There is a lot of crap spoken about Premier League players being paid. Of some do get some cash but it is not as widespread as people think. Kent CCC having got any money so why would the clubs?
  • lolwray said:

    i dont think KF was comparing the two premier leagues directly ,pointing out that the standard is probably higher than say first team div 5 which is where they aspire to be if promoted ..which it is
    Yes, it is true that some (but not all) of the clubs promoted into KCL Div 5 are strong, and often go straight through to Divs 4 or even 3. It was a key decision in Chislehurst being offered a reprieve from relegation (from Div 5 to the premier of the KRCL, which is what should have happened) that they stayed in the KCL as that is probably a weaker division than the top KRCL one.

    I watched Staplehurst for an hour on Saturday, and they are a decent batting team, with the 6 & 7 getting them home scoring 50-odd in the last fifteen overs when other teams could have folded under scoreboard pressure. They have won every game this season, and should now walk the league. Kings Hill, who came up with them last year, have struggled this season though (so far), so it's not a doddle for good ex-KRCL teams to play Bapchild, Offham, Chislehurst, Betteshangar, and Faversham (all consistent Div 5 teams over recent years) week on week.
  • Pedro45 said:

    Yes, it is true that some (but not all) of the clubs promoted into KCL Div 5 are strong, and often go straight through to Divs 4 or even 3. It was a key decision in Chislehurst being offered a reprieve from relegation (from Div 5 to the premier of the KRCL, which is what should have happened) that they stayed in the KCL as that is probably a weaker division than the top KRCL one.

    I watched Staplehurst for an hour on Saturday, and they are a decent batting team, with the 6 & 7 getting them home scoring 50-odd in the last fifteen overs when other teams could have folded under scoreboard pressure. They have won every game this season, and should now walk the league. Kings Hill, who came up with them last year, have struggled this season though (so far), so it's not a doddle for good ex-KRCL teams to play Bapchild, Offham, Chislehurst, Betteshangar, and Faversham (all consistent Div 5 teams over recent years) week on week.
    Sorry did not ,meant to suggest that it was a doddle. The teams that get promoted invariably seem to do well though as they are setup to do so. If they dont lose generally then they invariably stay up. Who was the last team to get promoted into div 5 then relegated the year after ??



  • Sorry did not ,meant to suggest that it was a doddle. The teams that get promoted invariably seem to do well though as they are setup to do so. If they dont lose generally then they invariably stay up. Who was the last team to get promoted into div 5 then relegated the year after ??


    Sorry did not ,meant to suggest that it was a doddle. The teams that get promoted invariably seem to do well though as they are setup to do so. If they dont lose their promotion winning team they invariably stay up. Who was the last team to get promoted into div 5 then relegated the year after ??
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    Riviera said:

    There is a lot of crap spoken about Premier League players being paid. Of some do get some cash but it is not as widespread as people think. Kent CCC having got any money so why would the clubs?

    I know of at least 2 Beckenham players that have been approached by clubs in the Prem and Div 1 trying to buy their services.

    One club in Div 1 offered one of our guys £600 a game to play for them instead.

  • Sorry did not ,meant to suggest that it was a doddle. The teams that get promoted invariably seem to do well though as they are setup to do so. If they dont lose generally then they invariably stay up. Who was the last team to get promoted into div 5 then relegated the year after ??


    Good question! Some teams have come up and then disappeared again - Deal Victoria, and Westgate being two; both made it up to Div 4 but when that proved a struggle they lost players and couldn't stem the flow of defeats and suffered consequtive relegations. Walmer went down but came back up but they have kept a very consistent team over the last five years or so, and are now doing well in Div 4. Old Williamsonians flew into the KCL and up to Div 3 but are now on their way back down again, having lost some players (and a favourable umpire). High Halstow came up, went down, then sledged their way back up again and are now in Div 4, so maybe they are the answer to your question?.
  • Tell them I will play for just £400


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    I know of at least 2 Beckenham players that have been approached by clubs in the Prem and Div 1 trying to buy their services.

    One club in Div 1 offered one of our guys £600 a game to play for them instead.
    Division 1 you say. Now I wonder who that could be and who the players are.............

    Not connected in any way but Hartley did lose their top 3 from last season in the shape of Hendricks, Hockley and Stickels which might serve to explain why they are still struggling this season in Div 1.
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    Division 1 you say. Now I wonder who that could be and who the players are.............

    Not connected in any way but Hartley did lose their top 3 from last season in the shape of Hendricks, Hockley and Stickels which might serve to explain why they are still struggling this season in Div 1.
    Div 1 is very competitive this year, and having stood with six of the ten sides so far; any two from seven are able to put a string of results together and go up IMO (I am leaving out The Mote, Dartford, and Linden Park from those seven, as I have seen each of them lose this season). I have the other four teams I haven't seen yet to do before the end of July. With win/lose games, and some teams racking up huge first innings scores, it's no surprise that some very big (200+ run) wins have been around. A lot depends on who is available for the crunch games (which come thick and fast in a competitive league), and Canterbury will not want to lose Tom Davies very often, and Bromley will want Amjad Khan playing the amount of games he promised at the start of the season (about a dozen). If Mitch Claydon plays much then Folkestone will be a threat to anyone; Holmesdale rely heavily on Luke Blackaby still; and St Lawrence have Widerstrom and decent back up. HSBC are very inconsistent, but on their day a match for anyone. Hartley have history, but can bowl a team out for 33 or lose by 226 runs, as they have done both this season!

    It's gonna be fun!
  • Can anyone enlighten me as to what's going on with Ex Blues CC?! They're in freefall it seems - lost every game except for an abandonment this year, and have been dismissed for 109, 57, 31(!), and 97 in their four completions.
  • They've been in freefall for about twenty years now tbh
  • Derbyshire have signed "Cloudy" for the T20 Blast.
  • Riviera said:

    Derbyshire have signed "Cloudy" for the T20 Blast.

    Thanks Riv but this is old news as it was mentioned on the Kent thread at 10.32 this morning.


  • Thanks Riv but this is old news as it was mentioned on the Kent thread at 10.32 this morning.

    Why was it mentioned on the Kent thread?
  • PaddyP17 said:

    Can anyone enlighten me as to what's going on with Ex Blues CC?! They're in freefall it seems - lost every game except for an abandonment this year, and have been dismissed for 109, 57, 31(!), and 97 in their four completions.

    Take a look at Dartforians 2s and OEs 2s and you will see that they have had to concede most of their games. Not a good sign especially for OEs who should, in theory anyway, have a natural pathway to adult cricket.
  • Riviera said:

    Why was it mentioned on the Kent thread?
    Because I didn't want to mention it on two threads and he has played Kent 2s this season. He has also said in an interview that he is open to having talks with Derbyshire, Kent or anyone else which is probably an invitation to us especially as he lives with his fiancee in the Medway.
  • Especially for you Riviera an interview with Gary Joyce, Director of Cricket at Bexley, about Cloudy (20:26 onwards):

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kmtv/video/kent-tonight-monday-11th-june-2018-20894/

    Enjoy!
  • edited June 2018

    Especially for you Riviera an interview with Gary Joyce, Director of Cricket at Bexley, about Cloudy (20:26 onwards):

    http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kmtv/video/kent-tonight-monday-11th-june-2018-20894/

    Enjoy!

    ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Director of Cricket!!
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