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  • Laddick01 said:

    Worst part is the Scottish piping up on twitter
    I’ve consoled myself with the fact that at least I won’t ever have to live there

    They can fuck off, we've won as many matches in this world cup as they have in their entire history.
  • Chunes said:

    Howells said:

    I understand disappointment but I've seen words like "embarrassing" and "chokers" thrown around online already.

    No wonder people think England fans are insufferable.

    Can we not just be proud of our team getting further than they have in 28 years and congratulate the opposition on their first WC final ever?

    Insufferable?
    Hardly.
    We've just been knocked out, literally moments ago.
    Emotions run high, what do you expect.
    Don't worry yourself. Callum is about rose tinted as it gets.
    Is there a problem with positivity?
  • Proud of the vast majority of our team, however I still cannot see what Alli is supposed to bring to the team? Can't pass, looks slow and lazy. Shadow of the player he was in his first season at Spurs.
  • Uboat said:

    Anyone bothering to watch on Saturday

    Yes. It's the world cup final.
    No its not
    Ha. Yes, you've got me there. It's a good question.
  • Not much written in the stars about Sterling then, but this would have been such a different game if any of those other first half chances had gone in.
    Wasteful.
    And gutted, gutted...
  • Laddick01 said:

    I like the formation, I like the Defense, I love Pickford and i like the football we try and play. But Southgate has learnt tonight that the Lingard/Alli duo is just too weak against world class combatitive midfielders.

    Until we can fill the gaping hole we have in a CM position we won’t be able to beat the real top sides

    I think that's true right now, but Alli is still only 22 and Lingard is 25. For this team to reach this stage of a tournament again, they're going to need to improve as players, and sometimes I feel that English players' growth is stunted in their late teens and early 20s, but this team certainly has time on their hands in terms of getting better.
  • Proud of the vast majority of our team, however I still cannot see what Alli is supposed to bring to the team? Can't pass, looks slow and lazy. Shadow of the player he was in his first season at Spurs.

    He was integral to us running the game in the first half but after that he was ineffective. It was his lack of closing down that allowed the right back to get the cross in for Croatia's equalising goal.
  • Gallant effort.
    Inexperience and fatigue done us.

    You can say both teams had fatigue. But only one had the experience to deal with it.
  • Uboat said:

    Teams we were good enough to beat: Tunisia, Panama, Colombia, Sweden. But as usual the fucking media and their army of willing fuckwits have hyped it up out of all proportion.

    Cheer up ! We got to the semi finals of the world cup, rather than losing to Tunisia and Belgium and not getting out of the group with a load of no hoper kids...
  • edited July 2018

    Laddick01 said:

    Worst part is the Scottish piping up on twitter
    I’ve consoled myself with the fact that at least I won’t ever have to live there

    They can fuck off, we've won as many matches in this world cup as they have in their entire history.
    No offence to the Scots on here, I wouldn’t worry too much about it. When Scotland are qualifying for the Euros and World cups on a regular basis I might take them seriously but they ain’t got much to pipe up about. Bit like us slating Millwall at the moment.....
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  • Just gutted
  • Kind of pissing me off everyone saying they have room to grow, we can move on from this and better for it, they are young and will learn....

    Make no mistake no matter how much they learned they will never get a chance like that again. It opened up - and we will have to get better as we won’t have a run to a Final ever again like it
  • Wembley 2020. Watch this space.
  • Uboat said:

    Uboat said:

    Anyone bothering to watch on Saturday

    Yes. It's the world cup final.
    No its not
    Ha. Yes, you've got me there. It's a good question.
    Lol.

    Kane, and Dele carrying knocks
    Will they be risked for what is a pointless game.

    Trippier probably out.

    Personally will be to painful to watch
  • Go on Wrighty!
  • Kind of pissing me off everyone saying they have room to grow, we can move on from this and better for it, they are young and will learn....

    Make no mistake no matter how much they learned they will never get a chance like that again. It opened up - and we will have to get better as we won’t have a run to a Final ever again like it

    The big winners were always going to be the team that came out the strong side of the bracket.
    This was great opportunity but reality is we are still a fair way from being a finished article
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  • Kind of pissing me off everyone saying they have room to grow, we can move on from this and better for it, they are young and will learn....

    Make no mistake no matter how much they learned they will never get a chance like that again. It opened up - and we will have to get better as we won’t have a run to a Final ever again like it

    I agree, but my counter to this is that hopefully with players improvement and some of the young, youth tournament winning players coming in, England will be able to compete with the better sides they'll inevitably need to beat in the future.
  • How did people react after 1990?

    After all, the only team we beat in normal time in that tournament was Egypt.
  • Laddick01 said:

    Kind of pissing me off everyone saying they have room to grow, we can move on from this and better for it, they are young and will learn....

    Make no mistake no matter how much they learned they will never get a chance like that again. It opened up - and we will have to get better as we won’t have a run to a Final ever again like it

    The big winners were always going to be the team that came out the strong side of the bracket.
    This was great opportunity but reality is we are still a fair way from being a finished article
    The big winners tonight were France.
  • How did people react after 1990?

    After all, the only team we beat in normal time in that tournament was Egypt.

    I still don't understand how people communicated before the internet.
  • Laddick01 said:

    Kind of pissing me off everyone saying they have room to grow, we can move on from this and better for it, they are young and will learn....

    Make no mistake no matter how much they learned they will never get a chance like that again. It opened up - and we will have to get better as we won’t have a run to a Final ever again like it

    The big winners were always going to be the team that came out the strong side of the bracket.
    This was great opportunity but reality is we are still a fair way from being a finished article
    The big winners tonight were France.
    We don't know that yet.
  • The Frogs are going to have their hands full with Croatia they have that never quit attitude right now.Hope they stuff them might make me feel better we lost out to the best team.
  • Chunes said:

    Howells said:

    I understand disappointment but I've seen words like "embarrassing" and "chokers" thrown around online already.

    No wonder people think England fans are insufferable.

    Can we not just be proud of our team getting further than they have in 28 years and congratulate the opposition on their first WC final ever?

    Insufferable?
    Hardly.
    We've just been knocked out, literally moments ago.
    Emotions run high, what do you expect.
    Don't worry yourself. Callum is about rose tinted as it gets.
    Is there a problem with positivity?
    Are you Stewart Pearson from The Thick Of It?
  • I think Gareth needed to make some tactical changes in that second half. If the players lack the experience to push out past the press then we probably should have altered the formation and pushed players out wide to pin back their full backs who were driving the ball into our box. We had men spare in our back three but deep crosses were being played into the gaps and causing chaos. We could have used Sterling and Lingard to go wide as we weren't getting anywhere with two up top. Might have involved subbing one of the centre halves for Dier to close off Modric and Rakitic but if you take those rampaging full backs out of the equation for Croatia they suddenly become quite ordinary again. Just a reminder for us that Southgate will also grow in experience as much as the players will

    Agree with all of this. Said earlier I thought bringing off Sterling was the wrong decision. But he's done very well with this group, and unlike a lot of managers, I have faith in Southgate to improve as he gets older.
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