KR on our new striker Naby Sarr
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I don't think it will take him by surprise.LargeAddick said:
Think mentioning his colour might be an issueJoshAddick said:He’s big
He’s black
He’s our back up centre back
It’s Naby Sarr0 -
How on earth could a piss poor back up league one centre half become a "great" midfielder ?MuttleyCAFC said:
Yes, you would have to work with the player. And some players are open and some are not. Marshall for me could be a great wing back at this level and Sarr a great midfielder - but only if they want it and are willing to work towards it. I would want to see fitness and strength in Sarr's game, alongside his comfort on the ball. Those are things that you can add easier than talent IMO.Sage said:
I definitely do think he is in the wrong position. Yes he has all the attributes to be a top centre half if he works on his weaknesses and as Bowyer said, becomes more nasty/aggressive. But he does have the ability to move further forward.MuttleyCAFC said:There are a lot of accepted facts in football, many are around height. There is a lot of compelling evidence to show that the height of keepers is not as important as coaches in this country especially think for instance. Sarr is possibly a player who is a centre half because of his height rather than the way he plays. Maybe somebody needs to take a step back. Tall players tend to lack touch, but he is above average there. Playing him in midfield - or at least working on that with him, allows you to have extra height in the team which helps with set pieces too. I don't think it is something football is good at - just some enlightened coaches scattered around.
However, what that would require is a lot of coaching and a lot of fitness work as he would be running so much more in midfield for example than he would at centre half.
It would need time to get used to, but he would remind me in a way of Kerkar, an unorthodox type of player, but put him up front and he would beat most defenders in this league in the air, he is better than many with his feet, and isn’t slow when he gets going. I genuinely think he could be an option, especially if we needed to be more direct. Get players close to him and he would cause problems.
And if he can continue to finish like he did last night, well, I know where my money is going on top goalscorer
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Sarr as DM.
The new Alou Diarra.
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I said at league one level. It is about attributes. Completely different level I know, but I coach in youth football and a lot of lads don't understand their best positions. Some are open to suggestions others are too set in their ways. Thierry was a great winger, but when Wenger converted him to a striker he became a legendary player. It doesn't always work and isn't always right, but is always worth a try IMO.wmcf123 said:
How on earth could a piss poor back up league one centre half become a "great" midfielder ?MuttleyCAFC said:
Yes, you would have to work with the player. And some players are open and some are not. Marshall for me could be a great wing back at this level and Sarr a great midfielder - but only if they want it and are willing to work towards it. I would want to see fitness and strength in Sarr's game, alongside his comfort on the ball. Those are things that you can add easier than talent IMO.Sage said:
I definitely do think he is in the wrong position. Yes he has all the attributes to be a top centre half if he works on his weaknesses and as Bowyer said, becomes more nasty/aggressive. But he does have the ability to move further forward.MuttleyCAFC said:There are a lot of accepted facts in football, many are around height. There is a lot of compelling evidence to show that the height of keepers is not as important as coaches in this country especially think for instance. Sarr is possibly a player who is a centre half because of his height rather than the way he plays. Maybe somebody needs to take a step back. Tall players tend to lack touch, but he is above average there. Playing him in midfield - or at least working on that with him, allows you to have extra height in the team which helps with set pieces too. I don't think it is something football is good at - just some enlightened coaches scattered around.
However, what that would require is a lot of coaching and a lot of fitness work as he would be running so much more in midfield for example than he would at centre half.
It would need time to get used to, but he would remind me in a way of Kerkar, an unorthodox type of player, but put him up front and he would beat most defenders in this league in the air, he is better than many with his feet, and isn’t slow when he gets going. I genuinely think he could be an option, especially if we needed to be more direct. Get players close to him and he would cause problems.
And if he can continue to finish like he did last night, well, I know where my money is going on top goalscorer1 -
Kishishev was bought as a right back and got moved to centre mid. Maggenis started his career as a goalkeeper. It can happen.1
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Because he has attributes that suit a midfielder (speed, power and passing) but because of his size he's been lumped into defence which exacerbates his weaknesses (the occasional brain fart and tendency to wander.) he's never going to be the new Makalele or Kante but at this level I think he'd suit a midfield role.wmcf123 said:
How on earth could a piss poor back up league one centre half become a "great" midfielder ?MuttleyCAFC said:
Yes, you would have to work with the player. And some players are open and some are not. Marshall for me could be a great wing back at this level and Sarr a great midfielder - but only if they want it and are willing to work towards it. I would want to see fitness and strength in Sarr's game, alongside his comfort on the ball. Those are things that you can add easier than talent IMO.Sage said:
I definitely do think he is in the wrong position. Yes he has all the attributes to be a top centre half if he works on his weaknesses and as Bowyer said, becomes more nasty/aggressive. But he does have the ability to move further forward.MuttleyCAFC said:There are a lot of accepted facts in football, many are around height. There is a lot of compelling evidence to show that the height of keepers is not as important as coaches in this country especially think for instance. Sarr is possibly a player who is a centre half because of his height rather than the way he plays. Maybe somebody needs to take a step back. Tall players tend to lack touch, but he is above average there. Playing him in midfield - or at least working on that with him, allows you to have extra height in the team which helps with set pieces too. I don't think it is something football is good at - just some enlightened coaches scattered around.
However, what that would require is a lot of coaching and a lot of fitness work as he would be running so much more in midfield for example than he would at centre half.
It would need time to get used to, but he would remind me in a way of Kerkar, an unorthodox type of player, but put him up front and he would beat most defenders in this league in the air, he is better than many with his feet, and isn’t slow when he gets going. I genuinely think he could be an option, especially if we needed to be more direct. Get players close to him and he would cause problems.
And if he can continue to finish like he did last night, well, I know where my money is going on top goalscorer1 -
Didn't work with Magennis he should have stayed in goal.kentaddick said:Kishishev was bought as a right back and got moved to centre mid. Maggenis started his career as a goalkeeper. It can happen.
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Found him! This season's scapegoat.blackpool72 said:
Didn't work with Magennis he should have stayed in goal.kentaddick said:Kishishev was bought as a right back and got moved to centre mid. Maggenis started his career as a goalkeeper. It can happen.
Lucky escape for Dillon Phillips/Nicky Ajose/Mark Marshall.
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This will be Mageniss's year.
20 goals at least (plus a 30 yard sizzler that knocks palace out of the fa cup in the 1/4 final), a recall to the Mick/Paddy international team. (Is he on the good side of the divide.)
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Killer was a full back, and who was the lengendary CB who joined as a striker?0
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I seem to vaguely remember ronnie moore and arthur horsefield playing centre half or am i mistaken
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I think he was always more of a defensive midfielder anywaykentaddick said:Kishishev was bought as a right back and got moved to centre mid. Maggenis started his career as a goalkeeper. It can happen.
Darren Pitcher was similar, a defensive midfielder, who could play RB, but wasn't very good there0 -
I think Bowyer hit the nail on the head when he said that he has to work on his nasty side.
For me Sarr has always been bullied on the pitch when playing in defence, despite being the big unit that he is. I'm not sure that the required 'nastiness' is within him, or even if it can be taught. I would love to be proved wrong though, because he can pick out a pass and on occasion look quite an accomplished footballer. I wish good luck to Naby, because at 24 he is at a crossroads and his career could go either way.0 -
Got plenty of stick last season too, mainly due to him being a bit shitOggy Red said:
Found him! This season's scapegoat.blackpool72 said:
Didn't work with Magennis he should have stayed in goal.kentaddick said:Kishishev was bought as a right back and got moved to centre mid. Maggenis started his career as a goalkeeper. It can happen.
Lucky escape for Dillon Phillips/Nicky Ajose/Mark Marshall.3 -
Only one scapegoat oggy and that is RolandOggy Red said:
Found him! This season's scapegoat.blackpool72 said:
Didn't work with Magennis he should have stayed in goal.kentaddick said:Kishishev was bought as a right back and got moved to centre mid. Maggenis started his career as a goalkeeper. It can happen.
Lucky escape for Dillon Phillips/Nicky Ajose/Mark Marshall.0 -
Wasn’t Jon fortune a striker in the youth teams or did I make that up0
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From The limited games I've seen, hes not a scapegoat, he's just a bit shit.Oggy Red said:
Found him! This season's scapegoat.blackpool72 said:
Didn't work with Magennis he should have stayed in goal.kentaddick said:Kishishev was bought as a right back and got moved to centre mid. Maggenis started his career as a goalkeeper. It can happen.
Lucky escape for Dillon Phillips/Nicky Ajose/Mark Marshall.2 -
He should go and train with Fellaini. Sarr could be even better at messing up opponents if he added half the bite the nasty Fellaini fellow has.Raith_C_Chattonell said:I think Bowyer hit the nail on the head when he said that he has to work on his nasty side.
For me Sarr has always been bullied on the pitch when playing in defence, despite being the big unit that he is. I'm not sure that the required 'nastiness' is within him, or even if it can be taught. I would love to be proved wrong though, because he can pick out a pass and on occasion look quite an accomplished footballer. I wish good luck to Naby, because at 24 he is at a crossroads and his career could go either way.0 -
He’s the kind of defender who might (arguably) drop a clanger that’ll cost you a goal.Covered End said:
Bowyer talking complete sense again. I still can't get my head around one fan saying he's out of his depth.clive said:
He’s also the kind of defender that can get forward and create or score one too.
That makes him exciting to watch in my eyes.
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Hoping this is just about acquiring a mean streak, not hoofing it to the opposition.
I'm less concerned by his apparent niceness than his concentration. If he cuts out the mistakes, he'd be fine.2 -
If he cuts out the mistakes he’ll be sold.Vincenzo said:https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5b5849516ad4c/naby-sarr-lyle-taylor-wants-to-turn-me-into-jason-pearce
Hoping this is just about acquiring a mean streak, not hoofing it to the opposition.
I'm less concerned by his apparent niceness than his concentration. If he cuts out the mistakes, he'd be fine.1 -
Don't really know why but I quite like Naby, I hope it clicks for him and he does well for us.17
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As he said ^^^0
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Exciting is one way of describing it.JamesSeed said:
He’s the kind of defender who might (arguably) drop a clanger that’ll cost you a goal.Covered End said:
Bowyer talking complete sense again. I still can't get my head around one fan saying he's out of his depth.clive said:
He’s also the kind of defender that can get forward and create or score one too.
That makes him exciting to watch in my eyes.1 -
What I would say to him is, you don't have to be nasty per se, just give back what others give to you and your team mates (like Shrewsbury) and you will be fine. It isn't nasty giving it back, its being fair.0
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Well after that goal on Tuesday night, the club must have thought he can now get his chance up front, hence agreeing to sell Magennis! 2
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I know where you're coming from. It's not quite le mot juste. Perhaps I meant life shortening?Henry Irving said:
Exciting is one way of describing it.JamesSeed said:
He’s the kind of defender who might (arguably) drop a clanger that’ll cost you a goal.Covered End said:
Bowyer talking complete sense again. I still can't get my head around one fan saying he's out of his depth.clive said:
He’s also the kind of defender that can get forward and create or score one too.
That makes him exciting to watch in my eyes.0 -
Jon dropped back to defence so we could say Young Brown Fish Costa Fortune.kentaddick said:Wasn’t Jon fortune a striker in the youth teams or did I make that up
Or Young Powell Fish Costa Fortune.
Shame because JF was a prolific scorer !0
