Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
That can't be right, we were told they definitely had the funds, despite several well-placed people saying it wasn't true.
Someone was being spun a line and fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Another depressing season starts tomorrow, what a time to be alive.
I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.
Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.
In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.
Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!
Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.
During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.
However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.
A sad state of affairs indeed.
Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.
With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
That can't be right, we were told they definitely had the funds, despite several well-placed people saying it wasn't true.
Someone was being spun a line and fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Another depressing season starts tomorrow, what a time to be alive.
2 months ago when the Aussies were scarfed up in the Directors box they clearly had the money within the consortium and 1905 was happy that he would renew and would potentially have a decent season to look forward to.
Then the "Charlton affect" steamed in and here we are. Maybe Mark Hulyer can organise another rubber shipment to fill the financial gap? Maybe Zabeel will dust off their old DD? Maybe Sunley will build us a new stand? Maybe the lovely Glikstein family will find some old mouldies down the sofa and give us more depression. Maybe we can throw money in a bucket and buy another striker? Maybe we could play on Friday nights to bolster the crowd and use the carpark for a market on Saturday? Maybe we can share with those c***s again to keep the club alive?
In short, apart from the recent premiership years, common sense or luck never touches this club. It takes something different to be a Charlton fan. But one day it must change, but its the hope ..............
I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.
Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.
In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.
Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!
Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.
During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.
However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.
A sad state of affairs indeed.
Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.
With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.
Oh for a knight on a white charger !
Reg ! Where art thou ?
Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,
my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides
RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider
The Chinese businessman that visited our club last year just commented on my Weibo post about our difficult situation saying that the asking price was 40m (meaning too high). Even an outsider knows why the sale still can't be completed after such a long time - Is it really all that complicated? Over a thousand pages of discussions about what? If RD really desperately wants to sell he'd lower the price to an acceptable level and there certainly will be buyers who are willing and able to buy. Even if Murray is causing difficulties, an attractive price would compensate. No club is impossible to sell.
Sunderland had complicated finances as well but their American owner wiped all of the debts so that the deal could go through smoothly. That's the difference between a bad owner and a much worse owner. RD will never do the same thing.
I've said it before but what Roland wants is not selling the club per se, his main aim is to get his money back. This is the reason he 'loaned' the money to the club in the first place. The only method left for him to achieve this is by selling the club, as he will never achieve football success and the youth academy cupboard is now bare.
If he wanted to sell, the club would be priced to sell and a chunk of the debt written off. £40m for Charlton in its current state is a ridiculous valuation and Roland is extremely fortunate that the Australian consortium is prepared to consider pay that much. Too many other interested parties have walked away when they find out the asking price.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
That can't be right, we were told they definitely had the funds, despite several well-placed people saying it wasn't true.
Someone was being spun a line and fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Another depressing season starts tomorrow, what a time to be alive.
2 months ago when the Aussies were scarfed up in the Directors box they clearly had the money within the consortium and 1905 was happy that he would renew and would potentially have a decent season to look forward to.
I just find that too hard to believe, I think they always planned to drop the price at the last minute and did not expect the reaction they got from RD, it was a dangerous game that they lost, sadly, so did we.
The Chinese businessman that visited our club last year just commented on my Weibo post about our difficult situation saying that the asking price was 40m (meaning too high). Even an outsider knows why the sale still can't be completed after such a long time - Is it really all that complicated? Over a thousand pages of discussions about what? If RD really desperately wants to sell he'd lower the price to an acceptable level and there certainly will be buyers who are willing and able to buy. Even if Murray is causing difficulties, an attractive price would compensate. No club is impossible to sell.
Sunderland had complicated finances as well but their American owner wiped all of the debts so that the deal could go through smoothly. That's the difference between a bad owner and a much worse owner. RD will never do the same thing.
I've said it before but what Roland wants is not selling the club per se, his main aim is to get his money back. This is the reason he 'loaned' the money to the club in the first place. The only method left for him to achieve this is by selling the club, as he will never achieve football success and the youth academy cupboard is now bare.
If he wanted to sell, the club would be priced to sell and a chunk of the debt written off. £40m for Charlton in it's current state is a ridiculous valuation and Roland is extremely fortunate that the Australian consortium is prepared to consider pay that much. Too many other interested parties have walked away when they find out the asking price.
Yep......just as I see it. I think the only reason the Aussies are still around is that they think he will crumble.....Muir, being a businessman, thinks everyone has their tipping point & is just biding his time. Not doing us fans any good though.
The fundamental problem is surely Duchatelet’s asking price, which is said to be around £40 million. It is (and has proved to be) totally unrealistic. Of course, rather like players and any other asset, the club is worth what someone is willing to pay for it but, thus far, no sale has been achieved and the prospects are looking increasingly grim.
I read somewhere that Deloitte had estimated the value of the the club at £18million - coincidentally, the sum that Duchatelet paid for it nearly five years ago when we were a Championship club. Whether that valuation exists or was the figment of someone’s imagination, that figure feels about right. Duchatelet’s attempt to recover the sums injected since then are understandable from his perspective but, logically speaking, why would a new owner want to reimburse him for nearly five years of diabolical mismanagement, culminating in an attempt to run the club into the ground ?
On one view, Duchatelet has been lucky to contain the losses at their existing level, given the fact that he’s been able to flog off an unusually rich crop of graduates from our Academy. Even, however, a man of his exceptionally limited football knowledge must appreciate that we don’t have an endless supply of such players and that the fees for League 1 players are significantly lower than for those plying their trade in the. Championship.
By way of comparison, Wolves were purchased around 18 months ago for £45million and Aston Villa for £60 million. They are both much bigger clubs with enormous heritage and substantial support.
In contrast, we are a League 1 club, competing with a raft of other London clubs and with a potential which is, in truth, smaller. The only reason that Jiminez and Cash got involved was in the hope of pulling off a ridiculously speculative property deal involving the Greenwich Peninsula.
We receive next to no TV money, make a heavy operating loss each year and our dwindling supporter base is, for the most part, feeling totally disenfranchised.
Companies can be valued in different ways but, even allowing for the idiosyncrasies of football, they usually have to make a profit or hold out a reasonable prospect of doing so. Likewise, purchasers or investors can look at the balance sheet. In Charlton’s case, however, whilst we have the Valley and Sparrows Lane, their book value is not something that can be realised, easily or, quite possibly, at all.
The way things are panning out, I can see the Aussie deal collapsing (if it hasn’t already done so), the team drifting towards the bottom of the table and the atmosphere becoming increasingly toxic. Duchatelet has the financial muscle to’dig in’ and I suspect that he’ll do so and end up trying to engineer some sort of deal whereby he keeps an interest in the Valley - for me, the worst possible scenario.
Maybe one day the scales will fall off and he’ll appreciate that he’s just got to cut his losses and get out of town, although I fear we have some way to go yet.
I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.
Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.
In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.
Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!
Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.
During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.
However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.
A sad state of affairs indeed.
Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.
With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.
Oh for a knight on a white charger !
Reg ! Where art thou ?
Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,
my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides
RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider
Fuck the takeover
Great post and absolutely bang on the nail. No need for anyone else to post anything further unless it's to confirm the Belgian sociopath has finally sold the club. IMHO the sale will not happen and we'll be stuck with Roland for the foreseeable, which means no investment in players and a struggle to even stay in this awful league. If I'm wrong, great but nothing I've read over the past few weeks leads me to think it's going to happen.
I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.
Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.
In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.
Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!
Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.
During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.
However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.
A sad state of affairs indeed.
Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.
With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.
Oh for a knight on a white charger !
Reg ! Where art thou ?
Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,
my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides
RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider
Fuck the takeover
Maybe just feeling particularly low this morning & reading the report from the SLP seems to have opened the flood gates.
Your post exudes common sense- something I've always lacked, letting my heart rule my head.
Hopefully, our guys will ensure that this finds it’s way into the Belgian press.
A truly shocking revelation about halving Joe Aribo’s contract offer:
“Now, the only sellable young player left is 22-year-old midfielder Joe Aribo. The club is not doing a good job of keeping him. Charlton offered Aribo a new contract at the start of the summer, changed their minds, and offered him half as much money instead. Other players have gone through the same process. Aribo has Duchatelet has relied in the past on selling academy players to stem Charlton’s losses: they got £3.5m for Joe Gomez in 2015, £8m that could rise to £11m for Ademola Lookman in 2017. Now, the only sellable young player left is 22-year-old midfielder Joe Aribo. The club is not doing a good job of keeping him. Charlton offered Aribo a new contract at the start of the summer, changed their minds, and offered him half as much money instead. Other players have gone through the same process. Aribo has just one year left now and if Charlton were offered close to £1m – Southampton and Derby County are interested – they would sell.“
I think we need to assemble on Blackheath Common next Saturday - Wat Tyler style - and march to the Valley with pitchforks and flaming torches.
I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.
Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.
In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.
Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!
Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.
During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.
However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.
A sad state of affairs indeed.
Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.
With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.
Oh for a knight on a white charger !
Reg ! Where art thou ?
Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,
my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides
RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider
Fuck the takeover
Maybe just feeling particularly low this morning & reading the report from the SLP seems to have opened the flood gates.
Your post exudes common sense- something I've always lacked, letting my heart rule my head.
Thanks for the good advice.
We have both been feeling the 1st world pain stuff Jean CAFC just exagerates our euphoria or our sorrow, Its really not worth it
i think the fans have done a great job rallying and forcing the old scroat to sell up and that has happened he is selling so be proud of that
but we can do no more so do not let it over take whats important
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
I think we need to assemble on Blackheath Common next Saturday - Wat Tyler style - and March to the Valley with pitchforks and flaming torches.
The trouble with that is Wat Tyler ended up being killed when he met the King, and his head ended up on a spike on London Bridge. But it is perhaps comforting to know that the king in question, Richard II was starved to death a few years later in Pontefract.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
I think we need to assemble on Blackheath Common next Saturday - Wat Tyler style - and March to the Valley with pitchforks and flaming torches.
The trouble with that is Wat Tyler ended up being killed when he met the King, and his head ended up on a spike on London Bridge. But it is perhaps comforting to know that the king in question, Richard II was starved to death a few years later in Pontefract.
I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.
Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.
In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.
Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!
Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.
During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.
However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.
A sad state of affairs indeed.
Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.
With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.
Oh for a knight on a white charger !
Reg ! Where art thou ?
Hey Buddy we both know too well that although CAFC is a big part of life and the part that is meant to take away the shit stuff we face and be the escape it hasnt been like that for a while, nut we both also know theres more to lose in life than the thrill of 3 points and the pride in the team,
my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides
RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider
Fuck the takeover
Maybe just feeling particularly low this morning & reading the report from the SLP seems to have opened the flood gates.
Your post exudes common sense- something I've always lacked, letting my heart rule my head.
Thanks for the good advice.
We have both been feeling the 1st world pain stuff Jean CAFC just exagerates our euphoria or our sorrow, Its really not worth it
i think the fans have done a great job rallying and forcing the old scroat to sell up and that has happened he is selling so be proud of that
but we can do no more so do not let it over take whats important
But your whole point NLA is that he isn’t selling, he wants to sell, but he is not putting a reasonable value on it.
So why can’t we do more to make him realise that he has to sell at a lower price?
In the UK I feel that this is limited but if we had people in Sint Truiden every week pushing the ROT agenda, that must be worth the effort.
For too many months now we have thought the takeover was imminent but it may not be and the main reason is because while Duchatelet wants to sell, he doesn’t want to sell enough.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
Fair play if you turned out to be right all along. As I’ve said I’ve only had very little info since the beer meeting, and none of that was financial. Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon. If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
Click on it to read it. Basically says Keith Harris has been trying to find new investors so the takeover can go through, and that it’s unclear if that’s happened. If it hasn’t happened it says it’s in danger of collapsing.
Ahem “Aussies ain’t got the money”
Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Ah, so this is the famous ‘waving of the willy’ that I’ve heard so much about ;-)
seems to be what the SLP are indicating @JamesSeed i think theres been so much dragging of heels that people interested have said i am off
That's assuming the consortium was ever complete in the first place, not including people who already had stakes in other clubs, which the EFL were never going to stand for.
I think we need to assemble on Blackheath Common next Saturday - Wat Tyler style - and March to the Valley with pitchforks and flaming torches.
The trouble with that is Wat Tyler ended up being killed when he met the King, and his head ended up on a spike on London Bridge. But it is perhaps comforting to know that the king in question, Richard II was starved to death a few years later in Pontefract.
Good point. We’ll have to think of another plan - if we wait a few years for Roland’s demise, the club won’t exist any more.
I think we need to assemble on Blackheath Common next Saturday - Wat Tyler style - and March to the Valley with pitchforks and flaming torches.
The trouble with that is Wat Tyler ended up being killed when he met the King, and his head ended up on a spike on London Bridge. But it is perhaps comforting to know that the king in question, Richard II was starved to death a few years later in Pontefract.
Good point. We’ll have to think of another plan - if we wait a few years for Roland’s demise, the club won’t exist any more.
I think Harry was suggesting that we invite Roland to Pontefract and then starve the fucker.
That's how it gets to you @Fanny Fanackapan first you revolve your life around this great club, holidays etc all organised around fixtures or out of season. Many a birthday, anniversary, engagement or wedding spent using lounges or match day facilities. Many a weekend spoiled by a bad result or a poor performance and then as if by magic along comes someone like this character and his team of nodding dogs and Suddenly you have an appointment you "can't get out of" or "rearrange" and the more it drags on the more disheartening it becomes and you find yourself making appointments on match day or booking holidays in the season and before you know it your half looking out for the results on a Saturday evening to seen if they won or not. I needed the last trip to St Truiden it showed me much me how much missed Charlton, it's fans and the club. I needed to have a season ticket this season this year to get that same feeling back, it hasn't happened so sadly I fear next March will be my last Upbeats walk and I'm hoping to take part in the cycle to Amsterdam and they will be my last visits to the club. No dramas, I'm not vain enough to think I'll make a difference and sure people will say good riddance but as I found out in the world of employment you can give as much of your life to the cause as you wish, but at the end of the day. To them you are just a number on a season ticket.
You have to admit. At this point things are not looking good.
Am I alone in thinking that The Trust should once again be pushing for a statement from the club. The new season is right here. Right now. We currently have No Chairman, CEO, CFO, No permanent team manager and only 17 players on the coach to Sunderland tomorrow.
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Drops mic and walks away could’ve closed the thread in October
Someone was being spun a line and fell for it hook, line and sinker.
Another depressing season starts tomorrow, what a time to be alive.
I'm pretty certain that no-one will have noticed but I'm finding it increasingly difficult to drum up any enthusiasm to post on this great site lately.
Part of me says I should contribute whether everything in the SE7 garden is rosy or whether it's being strangled by Japanese knotweed , but I can barely force myself to open this thread at the moment and that says it all.
In the close season, CL has always been my "saviour" - full of news, rumours but most of all optimism for the coming term and this has kept me going until we flood through those turnstiles once again, bursting with excitement and indeed, love for our club.
Oh for those days when life seemed so simple!
Pathetically, I have been reduced to a shadow of the Addick who couldn't wait for the next match , whether home or away and for whom there would have been one subject of conversation with friends & family from August to May.
During August and into September in past years, there has been a minor conflict between supporting my football club and my cricket team with the former inevitably being the winner.
However, with the decision not to travel to both Sunderland and Accrington ( not totally for footballing reasons) I find myself making plans for more visits to Canterbury and Beckenham whilst a family break to Disneyland Paris has been arranged in October with another home game the casualty.
A sad state of affairs indeed.
Of course, I shall be at our Valley home for the Shrewsbury match & there are no plans to miss subsequent ones but my enthusiasm is flagging alarmingly at this moment in time.
With matters on & off the pitch seemingly in total chaos, it could take something very special to rekindle "the love" and for Fanny's considerable, if saggy, loins to be girded once again.
Oh for a knight on a white charger !
Reg ! Where art thou ?
Then the "Charlton affect" steamed in and here we are. Maybe Mark Hulyer can organise another rubber shipment to fill the financial gap? Maybe Zabeel will dust off their old DD? Maybe Sunley will build us a new stand? Maybe the lovely Glikstein family will find some old mouldies down the sofa and give us more depression. Maybe we can throw money in a bucket and buy another striker? Maybe we could play on Friday nights to bolster the crowd and use the carpark for a market on Saturday? Maybe we can share with those c***s again to keep the club alive?
In short, apart from the recent premiership years, common sense or luck never touches this club. It takes something different to be a Charlton fan. But one day it must change, but its the hope ..............
my advice Jean is to just focus on the real world stuff and let CAFC worry about its future theres not a jot any one can do to make RD sell any quicker if they dont front up the dough theres no sale the rest is all conjecture and bullshit peddled out deliberately to try and win favour from both sides
RD will sell when someone makes the right offer and shows their money, his valuation is irrelavent it doesnt matter if we think itys too high, if its too high no one will bite and he will have to reconsider
Fuck the takeover
If he wanted to sell, the club would be priced to sell and a chunk of the debt written off. £40m for Charlton in its current state is a ridiculous valuation and Roland is extremely fortunate that the Australian consortium is prepared to consider pay that much. Too many other interested parties have walked away when they find out the asking price.
I read somewhere that Deloitte had estimated the value of the the club at £18million - coincidentally, the sum that Duchatelet paid for it nearly five years ago when we were a Championship club. Whether that valuation exists or was the figment of someone’s imagination, that figure feels about right. Duchatelet’s attempt to recover the sums injected since then are understandable from his perspective but, logically speaking, why would a new owner want to reimburse him for nearly five years of diabolical mismanagement, culminating in an attempt to run the club into the ground ?
On one view, Duchatelet has been lucky to contain the losses at their existing level, given the fact that he’s been able to flog off an unusually rich crop of graduates from our Academy. Even, however, a man of his exceptionally limited football knowledge must appreciate that we don’t have an endless supply of such players and that the fees for League 1 players are significantly lower than for those plying their trade in the. Championship.
By way of comparison, Wolves were purchased around 18 months ago for £45million and Aston Villa for £60 million. They are both much bigger clubs with enormous heritage and substantial support.
In contrast, we are a League 1 club, competing with a raft of other London clubs and with a potential which is, in truth, smaller. The only reason that Jiminez and Cash got involved was in the hope of pulling off a ridiculously speculative property deal involving the Greenwich Peninsula.
We receive next to no TV money, make a heavy operating loss each year and our dwindling supporter base is, for the most part, feeling totally disenfranchised.
Companies can be valued in different ways but, even allowing for the idiosyncrasies of football, they usually have to make a profit or hold out a reasonable prospect of doing so. Likewise, purchasers or investors can look at the balance sheet. In Charlton’s case, however, whilst we have the Valley and Sparrows Lane, their book value is not something that can be realised, easily or, quite possibly, at all.
The way things are panning out, I can see the Aussie deal collapsing (if it hasn’t already done so), the team drifting towards the bottom of the table and the atmosphere becoming increasingly toxic. Duchatelet has the financial muscle to’dig in’ and I suspect that he’ll do so and end up trying to engineer some sort of deal whereby he keeps an interest in the Valley - for me, the worst possible scenario.
Maybe one day the scales will fall off and he’ll appreciate that he’s just got to cut his losses and get out of town, although I fear we have some way to go yet.
Your post exudes common sense- something I've always lacked, letting my heart rule my head.
Thanks for the good advice.
Hopefully, our guys will ensure that this finds it’s way into the Belgian press.
A truly shocking revelation about halving Joe Aribo’s contract offer:
“Now, the only sellable young player left is 22-year-old midfielder Joe Aribo. The club is not doing a good job of keeping him. Charlton offered Aribo a new contract at the start of the summer, changed their minds, and offered him half as much money instead. Other players have gone through the same process. Aribo has Duchatelet has relied in the past on selling academy players to stem Charlton’s losses: they got £3.5m for Joe Gomez in 2015, £8m that could rise to £11m for Ademola Lookman in 2017. Now, the only sellable young player left is 22-year-old midfielder Joe Aribo. The club is not doing a good job of keeping him. Charlton offered Aribo a new contract at the start of the summer, changed their minds, and offered him half as much money instead. Other players have gone through the same process. Aribo has just one year left now and if Charlton were offered close to £1m – Southampton and Derby County are interested – they would sell.“
I think we need to assemble on Blackheath Common next Saturday - Wat Tyler style - and march to the Valley with pitchforks and flaming torches.
i think the fans have done a great job rallying and forcing the old scroat to sell up and that has happened he is selling so be proud of that
but we can do no more so do not let it over take whats important
But it is perhaps comforting to know that the king in question, Richard II was starved to death a few years later in Pontefract.
So why can’t we do more to make him realise that he has to sell at a lower price?
In the UK I feel that this is limited but if we had people in Sint Truiden every week pushing the ROT agenda, that must be worth the effort.
For too many months now we have thought the takeover was imminent but it may not be and the main reason is because while Duchatelet wants to sell, he doesn’t want to sell enough.
Of course we still don’t know definitively what’s going on, but I guess we’ll hear soon.
If they’ve failed it’s a damned shame, because I think they had the potential to give us ‘proper’ ownership for the first time in years.
Am I alone in thinking that The Trust should once again be pushing for a statement from the club. The new season is right here. Right now. We currently have No Chairman, CEO, CFO, No permanent team manager and only 17 players on the coach to Sunderland tomorrow.