If I was RD I'd seek out that old time trader from Woolwich market, employ him as the agent and get him to liaise with the Arabs.
"I don't want 80 million, I don't want 60 million, I don't even want 50 million. Give me 40 million pounds cash and you walk away with a fantastic football club, first class facilities, a board room with a view to impress and influence people - and a fan base guaranteed to sell out every game - once you get to the Premiership. All this and bang in the middle of London. What more could you possibly want?"
(Voice quietens whilst theatrically tapping nose with index finger) Ere, ere, tell you what I'll do ... I'll even throw in a new boiler for the pitch and get it connected up and everything, come on you know it makes sense. (Offer hand, shake on deal). Simple.
The Saudi stuff appeared to be linked to the Bristol Rovers chairman, Hamer. Two ex-directors with knowledge of him said to me he would be very bad news based on a previous approach.
We may never know, but it is foolish to assume one bidder is preferable to another. Nobody knows. All we know is that Duchatelet has to go.
The Saudi stuff appeared to be linked to the Bristol Rovers chairman, Hamer. Two ex-directors with knowledge of him said to me he would be very bad news based on a previous approach.
We may never know, but it is foolish to assume one bidder is preferable to another. Nobody knows. All we know is that Duchatelet has to go.
Interesting. So any idea that the Saudi bid was a missed opportunity might be jumping the gun?
The Saudi stuff appeared to be linked to the Bristol Rovers chairman, Hamer. Two ex-directors with knowledge of him said to me he would be very bad news based on a previous approach.
We may never know, but it is foolish to assume one bidder is preferable to another. Nobody knows. All we know is that Duchatelet has to go.
If I was RD I'd seek out that old time trader from Woolwich market, employ him as the agent and get him to liaise with the Arabs.
"I don't want 80 million, I don't want 60 million, I don't even want 50 million. Give me 40 million pounds cash and you walk away with a fantastic football club, first class facilities, a board room with a view to impress and influence people - and a fan base guaranteed to sell out every game - once you get to the Premiership. All this and bang in the middle of London. What more could you possibly want?"
(Voice quietens whilst theatrically tapping nose with index finger) Ere, ere, tell you what I'll do ... I'll even throw in a new boiler for the pitch and get it connected up and everything, come on you know it makes sense. (Offer hand, shake on deal). Simple.
That’s uncanny, but how could you possibly have met my great grandfather?
I'm a bit surprised that here hasn't been more comment on Richard Cawley's piece in the SLP about Keith Harris?
Cawley says:
"Duchatelet has been in discussions over a deal with a consortium which is understood to include at least two individuals – one of those Australian tycoon Andrew Muir. Gerard Murphy was expected to be the new chief executive.
Harris was tasked with finding other investors to push the takeover through and it is unclear if he has achieved that".
Implying that Harris has been trying to find other investors to join the Australian Consortium?
But when Harris was first linked to a possible sale of CAFC in 2017 he was said to be a 'Broker' acting on behalf of Duchatelet to find a buyer?
Airman Brown October 2017
The only thing Karl Robinson's comment illuminates to me is timing and I don't know what else the bloke is supposed to say even when if he knows anything, which he may not. But Louis is quite entitled to ask him. It doesn't change the fact there is a live due diligence process involving the club's lawyers or the fact that Keith Harris is acting on behalf of the club to broker a sale.
So if he's now been trying to find new investors to join the Aussies' bid doesn't that mean that it's unlikely that there are any other prospective buyers about - otherwise why would Duchatelet's 'broker' be trying to keep the Aussie bid afloat?
I'm a bit surprised that here hasn't been more comment on Richard Cawley's piece in the SLP about Keith Harris?
Cawley says:
"Duchatelet has been in discussions over a deal with a consortium which is understood to include at least two individuals – one of those Australian tycoon Andrew Muir. Gerard Murphy was expected to be the new chief executive.
Harris was tasked with finding other investors to push the takeover through and it is unclear if he has achieved that".
Implying that Harris has been trying to find other investors to join the Australian Consortium?
But when Harris was first linked to a possible sale of CAFC in 2017 he was said to be a 'Broker' acting on behalf of Duchatelet to find a buyer?
Airman Brown October 2017
The only thing Karl Robinson's comment illuminates to me is timing and I don't know what else the bloke is supposed to say even when if he knows anything, which he may not. But Louis is quite entitled to ask him. It doesn't change the fact there is a live due diligence process involving the club's lawyers or the fact that Keith Harris is acting on behalf of the club to broker a sale.
So if he's now been trying to find new investors to join the Aussies' bid doesn't that mean that it's unlikely that there are any other prospective buyers about - otherwise why would Duchatelet's 'broker' be trying to keep the Aussie bid afloat?
Harris works on commission, which ultimately comes out of the sale price or club funds, essentially two sides of the same coin. So you can take whatever view you like of who he is working for - his aim is to get a deal done. Hamer is also his mate.
If the Aussie deal is now dead in the water (as seems), does that leave the space for previously interested parties to swim back into view?
So if you were selling a house for let’s say £400k and some one called Mr Sand bid £350k , as did Mr Kangaroo and another man called Mr Madeup bid £330k and then Mr Kanagaroo says I’ll make it £380k and Mr Sand says I’m not getting involved in a bidding war I’m out , you agree a deal with Mr Kangaroo . Then the fixtures and fittings started to be sold off and Mr Kangaroo was still interested but couldn’t get the mortgage together and flapped around and dug behind sofas and started haggling because the Konsatina doors that were quite valuable had been sold off on the cheap and basically the sale wasn’t gonna happen , all along Mr Madeup is saying I’m still here .... Would you continue to fritter money away on rent and patching up poorly the house or would you go back and see if Mr Sand was still about or look to see if Mr Madeup wants to buy ..... Or because you are as thick as deuxshits you say nope £400k or nothing and I’m happy to spend £100k a year keeping the house ticking over ....
Are we supposed to believe as I have read in some quarters, that RD wanted a deal in the best long term interests of the club? If so why hasn't he applied the same rule of thumb to his own ownership?
I'm a bit surprised that here hasn't been more comment on Richard Cawley's piece in the SLP about Keith Harris?
Cawley says:
"Duchatelet has been in discussions over a deal with a consortium which is understood to include at least two individuals – one of those Australian tycoon Andrew Muir. Gerard Murphy was expected to be the new chief executive.
Harris was tasked with finding other investors to push the takeover through and it is unclear if he has achieved that".
Implying that Harris has been trying to find other investors to join the Australian Consortium?
But when Harris was first linked to a possible sale of CAFC in 2017 he was said to be a 'Broker' acting on behalf of Duchatelet to find a buyer?
Airman Brown October 2017
The only thing Karl Robinson's comment illuminates to me is timing and I don't know what else the bloke is supposed to say even when if he knows anything, which he may not. But Louis is quite entitled to ask him. It doesn't change the fact there is a live due diligence process involving the club's lawyers or the fact that Keith Harris is acting on behalf of the club to broker a sale.
So if he's now been trying to find new investors to join the Aussies' bid doesn't that mean that it's unlikely that there are any other prospective buyers about - otherwise why would Duchatelet's 'broker' be trying to keep the Aussie bid afloat?
Harris works on commission, which ultimately comes out of the sale price or club funds, essentially two sides of the same coin. So you can take whatever view you like of who he is working for - his aim is to get a deal done. Hamer is also his mate.
I'm not trying to criticise you (or anybody else who posts what they've been told on here - which I welcome) but I'm still not following this.
Back in March Steve Hamer Chairman of Bristol City was said to be involved with a possible Saudi bid that RedHenry has regularly referred to:
Airman Brown March 31
daveydanger said:
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Airman Brown said:
The group RH is talking about want to appoint the current chairman of another L1 club as Charlton chairman, it appears. He’s tried to get into Charlton before.
Bristol?
Correct answer.
So I don't understand how the fact that Hamer is Keith Harris' mate is relevant to why Harris is supposedly now involved in trying to find new members for the Aussie consortium (as Cawley claims in the SLP); particularly if there has been a viable Saudi bid as recently as March that wanted to appoint his mate Hamer as CAFC Chairman?
Are we supposed to believe as I have read in some quarters, that RD wanted a deal in the best long term interests of the club? If so why hasn't he applied the same rule of thumb to his own ownership?
No you read the exact opposite he wanted the deal best for him not the club
I'm a bit surprised that here hasn't been more comment on Richard Cawley's piece in the SLP about Keith Harris?
Cawley says:
"Duchatelet has been in discussions over a deal with a consortium which is understood to include at least two individuals – one of those Australian tycoon Andrew Muir. Gerard Murphy was expected to be the new chief executive.
Harris was tasked with finding other investors to push the takeover through and it is unclear if he has achieved that".
Implying that Harris has been trying to find other investors to join the Australian Consortium?
But when Harris was first linked to a possible sale of CAFC in 2017 he was said to be a 'Broker' acting on behalf of Duchatelet to find a buyer?
Airman Brown October 2017
The only thing Karl Robinson's comment illuminates to me is timing and I don't know what else the bloke is supposed to say even when if he knows anything, which he may not. But Louis is quite entitled to ask him. It doesn't change the fact there is a live due diligence process involving the club's lawyers or the fact that Keith Harris is acting on behalf of the club to broker a sale.
So if he's now been trying to find new investors to join the Aussies' bid doesn't that mean that it's unlikely that there are any other prospective buyers about - otherwise why would Duchatelet's 'broker' be trying to keep the Aussie bid afloat?
Harris works on commission, which ultimately comes out of the sale price or club funds, essentially two sides of the same coin. So you can take whatever view you like of who he is working for - his aim is to get a deal done. Hamer is also his mate.
I'm not trying to criticise you (or anybody else who posts what they've been told on here - which I welcome) but I'm still not following this.
Back in March Steve Hamer Chairman of Bristol City was said to be involved with a possible Saudi bid that RedHenry has regularly referred to:
Airman Brown March 31
daveydanger said:
« hide previous quotes
Airman Brown said:
The group RH is talking about want to appoint the current chairman of another L1 club as Charlton chairman, it appears. He’s tried to get into Charlton before.
Bristol?
Correct answer.
So I don't understand how the fact that Hamer is Keith Harris' mate is relevant to why Harris is supposedly now involved in trying to find new members for the Aussie consortium (as Cawley claims in the SLP); particularly if there has been a viable Saudi bid as recently as March that wanted to appoint his mate Hamer as CAFC Chairman?
I don’t think he’s fussy what deal he does. No idea if he was involved with the Saudi stuff, but it happens he is Hamer’s mate. Football is a small world. Be very surprising if they haven’t, at minimum, compared notes.
Are we supposed to believe as I have read in some quarters, that RD wanted a deal in the best long term interests of the club? If so why hasn't he applied the same rule of thumb to his own ownership?
No you read the exact opposite he wanted the deal best for him not the club
Certainly sounds more credible, though I was referring to posts a lot earlier than the current 100 or so.
I'm a bit surprised that here hasn't been more comment on Richard Cawley's piece in the SLP about Keith Harris?
Cawley says:
"Duchatelet has been in discussions over a deal with a consortium which is understood to include at least two individuals – one of those Australian tycoon Andrew Muir. Gerard Murphy was expected to be the new chief executive.
Harris was tasked with finding other investors to push the takeover through and it is unclear if he has achieved that".
Implying that Harris has been trying to find other investors to join the Australian Consortium?
But when Harris was first linked to a possible sale of CAFC in 2017 he was said to be a 'Broker' acting on behalf of Duchatelet to find a buyer?
Airman Brown October 2017
The only thing Karl Robinson's comment illuminates to me is timing and I don't know what else the bloke is supposed to say even when if he knows anything, which he may not. But Louis is quite entitled to ask him. It doesn't change the fact there is a live due diligence process involving the club's lawyers or the fact that Keith Harris is acting on behalf of the club to broker a sale.
So if he's now been trying to find new investors to join the Aussies' bid doesn't that mean that it's unlikely that there are any other prospective buyers about - otherwise why would Duchatelet's 'broker' be trying to keep the Aussie bid afloat?
Harris works on commission, which ultimately comes out of the sale price or club funds, essentially two sides of the same coin. So you can take whatever view you like of who he is working for - his aim is to get a deal done. Hamer is also his mate.
I'm not trying to criticise you (or anybody else who posts what they've been told on here - which I welcome) but I'm still not following this.
Back in March Steve Hamer Chairman of Bristol City was said to be involved with a possible Saudi bid that RedHenry has regularly referred to:
Airman Brown March 31
daveydanger said:
« hide previous quotes
Airman Brown said:
The group RH is talking about want to appoint the current chairman of another L1 club as Charlton chairman, it appears. He’s tried to get into Charlton before.
Bristol?
Correct answer.
So I don't understand how the fact that Hamer is Keith Harris' mate is relevant to why Harris is supposedly now involved in trying to find new members for the Aussie consortium (as Cawley claims in the SLP); particularly if there has been a viable Saudi bid as recently as March that wanted to appoint his mate Hamer as CAFC Chairman?
I don’t think he’s fussy what deal he does. No idea if he was involved with the Saudi stuff, but it happens he is Hamer’s mate. Football is a small world. Be very surprising if they haven’t, at minimum, compared notes.
I'm sure that's right.
But to return to my original point if Harris has been busy trying to find new investors to keep the Aussie bid alive (as Cawley says) doesn't that mean that it's unlikely that there are other viable bidders about; otherwise why would a 'hired gun' like Harris looking for a 'cut' from any sale be bothering (and presumably with Duchatelet's agreement)?
The situation is ongoing. Price is agreed, the deal has stalled as there is a hole in the funds the aussies need to fund the club going forwards. The deal hasn't collapsed but won't complete until this hole has been filled by new investors.
The best way to handle this is to take a leaf out of Clint Eastwood’s book from his character in Kelky’s heroes when they are under fire and want to cross a river and the support guys are asking him to give them time to build a bridge and his response was to tell them he was pushing forward anyway and they’d have to catch up. Today is the start of the season, the team is going ahead anyway no matter who owns the club so any buyer will now need to catch up..
Ltgtr takes the takeover thread to a whole new level...page 2,000 now forecast by the end of next week
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We may never know, but it is foolish to assume one bidder is preferable to another. Nobody knows. All we know is that Duchatelet has to go.
Cawley says:
"Duchatelet has been in discussions over a deal with a consortium which is understood to include at least two individuals – one of those Australian tycoon Andrew Muir. Gerard Murphy was expected to be the new chief executive.
Harris was tasked with finding other investors to push the takeover through and it is unclear if he has achieved that".
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletics-takeover-talks-hanging-in-the-balance/
Implying that Harris has been trying to find other investors to join the Australian Consortium?
But when Harris was first linked to a possible sale of CAFC in 2017 he was said to be a 'Broker' acting on behalf of Duchatelet to find a buyer?
Airman Brown
October 2017
The only thing Karl Robinson's comment illuminates to me is timing and I don't know what else the bloke is supposed to say even when if he knows anything, which he may not. But Louis is quite entitled to ask him. It doesn't change the fact there is a live due diligence process involving the club's lawyers or the fact that Keith Harris is acting on behalf of the club to broker a sale.
So if he's now been trying to find new investors to join the Aussies' bid doesn't that mean that it's unlikely that there are any other prospective buyers about - otherwise why would Duchatelet's 'broker' be trying to keep the Aussie bid afloat?
Then the fixtures and fittings started to be sold off and Mr Kangaroo was still interested but couldn’t get the mortgage together and flapped around and dug behind sofas and started haggling because the Konsatina doors that were quite valuable had been sold off on the cheap and basically the sale wasn’t gonna happen , all along Mr Madeup is saying I’m still here ....
Would you continue to fritter money away on rent and patching up poorly the house or would you go back and see if Mr Sand was still about or look to see if Mr Madeup wants to buy .....
Or because you are as thick as deuxshits you say nope £400k or nothing and I’m happy to spend £100k a year keeping the house ticking over ....
Would you use foxtons or purple bricks?
Back in March Steve Hamer Chairman of Bristol City was said to be involved with a possible Saudi bid that RedHenry has regularly referred to:
Airman Brown
March 31
daveydanger said:
« hide previous quotes
Airman Brown said:
The group RH is talking about want to appoint the current chairman of another L1 club as Charlton chairman, it appears. He’s tried to get into Charlton before.
Bristol?
Correct answer.
So I don't understand how the fact that Hamer is Keith Harris' mate is relevant to why Harris is supposedly now involved in trying to find new members for the Aussie consortium (as Cawley claims in the SLP); particularly if there has been a viable Saudi bid as recently as March that wanted to appoint his mate Hamer as CAFC Chairman?
But to return to my original point if Harris has been busy trying to find new investors to keep the Aussie bid alive (as Cawley says) doesn't that mean that it's unlikely that there are other viable bidders about; otherwise why would a 'hired gun' like Harris looking for a 'cut' from any sale be bothering (and presumably with Duchatelet's agreement)?
Ltgtr takes the takeover thread to a whole new level...page 2,000 now forecast by the end of next week