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Dawkins not signing

paulie8290
paulie8290 Posts: 23,358
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,282
    i.e. I'll aim to get other targets

    If no one else comes in then we'll turn to Dawkins if he's still available
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,439
    No other clubs must rate the fella otherwise he would have been off by now. He's been on trial longer than a few fellas in Belmarsh!
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,219
    Or he wants more than thirty-quid a week the swine....
  • Cordoban Addick
    Cordoban Addick Posts: 5,448
    Maybe LB wants to see how his budget is going before committing. i.e. he wants to save the budget for a CD, CM and Striker.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    Cordoban Addick said:

    Maybe LB wants to see how his budget is going before committing. i.e. he wants to save the budget for a CD, CM and Striker.

    My thoughts too.

    It might also be that losing JFC for the season has changed his priorities in midfield, needing a more physical box-to-box player instead of a tricky attacking midfielder like Dawkins.

    Bowyer says further that he wants a striker, but who can also play wide.
    While Dawkins can play the wide role he doesn't appear to be a striker - so doesn't quite fit that requirement either.


    But after 6 weeks trial, Dawkins is still here though. Maybe the budget could change should a takeover happen within the next 3 weeks - and Dawkins knows that?

  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990

    Is Elliot Ward still at the club, does anyone know?

  • LouisMend
    LouisMend Posts: 5,488
    Oggy Red said:


    Is Elliot Ward still at the club, does anyone know?

    Same as Dawkins, training with us but will not be offered a deal
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990

    Thanks, Louis.

    I trust they are not being allowed breakfast and bottled water. :neutral:

  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,643
    Of all the triallists that i saw Ince was the one that stood out, shame he carried an injury, hopefully he will recover and gets another chance
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,226
    Kap10 said:

    Of all the triallists that i saw Ince was the one that stood out, shame he carried an injury, hopefully he will recover and gets another chance

    How bad was the injury? Possibility he might be ready before 31/08?

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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,303
    se9addick said:

    Kap10 said:

    Of all the triallists that i saw Ince was the one that stood out, shame he carried an injury, hopefully he will recover and gets another chance

    How bad was the injury? Possibility he might be ready before 31/08?
    A long term existing knee injury, which he didn't tell us about. (IIRC).
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,226
    Covered End said:

    se9addick said:

    Kap10 said:

    Of all the triallists that i saw Ince was the one that stood out, shame he carried an injury, hopefully he will recover and gets another chance

    How bad was the injury? Possibility he might be ready before 31/08?
    A long term existing knee injury, which he didn't tell us about. (IIRC).
    Ah right, wonder if there is an issue that he might not get insurance even if he’s fit.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    se9addick said:

    Kap10 said:

    Of all the triallists that i saw Ince was the one that stood out, shame he carried an injury, hopefully he will recover and gets another chance

    How bad was the injury? Possibility he might be ready before 31/08?
    Bowyer gave the impression that Ince could need surgery.
    If that was the case, the player might well not be ready to play again before Christmas.

    Bowyer says that he has a limited budget. He won't want another body blocking up the treatment room long term.
    He needs the right players who are ready to play now.

  • Lazy_eye_metaphor
    Lazy_eye_metaphor Posts: 1,963
    I don't think Dawkins would be any good for us so I'm happy that he won't be signing.
  • Ferryman
    Ferryman Posts: 2,929
    Lazy_eye_metaphor said:

    I don't think Dawkins would be any good for us so I'm happy that he won't be signing.

    We're probably waiting to shift Ajose to get Dawkins and Ward. Significant that RHF came on ahead of Ajose.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,811
    Ferryman said:

    Lazy_eye_metaphor said:

    I don't think Dawkins would be any good for us so I'm happy that he won't be signing.

    We're probably waiting to shift Ajose to get Dawkins and Ward. Significant that RHF came on ahead of Ajose.
    Doubt it, I expect he’s just waiting for better players to become available.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    Ferryman said:

    Lazy_eye_metaphor said:

    I don't think Dawkins would be any good for us so I'm happy that he won't be signing.

    We're probably waiting to shift Ajose to get Dawkins and Ward. Significant that RHF came on ahead of Ajose.
    Reeeco replaced Lyle Taylor ...... so like for like in style.

  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,358
    Oggy Red said:

    Ferryman said:

    Lazy_eye_metaphor said:

    I don't think Dawkins would be any good for us so I'm happy that he won't be signing.

    We're probably waiting to shift Ajose to get Dawkins and Ward. Significant that RHF came on ahead of Ajose.
    Reeeco replaced Lyle Taylor ...... so like for like in style.

    Also I dont think he touched the ball
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,517
    paulie8290 said:

    Oggy Red said:

    Ferryman said:

    Lazy_eye_metaphor said:

    I don't think Dawkins would be any good for us so I'm happy that he won't be signing.

    We're probably waiting to shift Ajose to get Dawkins and Ward. Significant that RHF came on ahead of Ajose.
    Reeeco replaced Lyle Taylor ...... so like for like in style.

    Also I dont think he touched the ball
    He did. A throw in down by the corner he controlled and played back to the thrower, Dijksteel
  • Aethelstan
    Aethelstan Posts: 542
    Isn't Dawkins similar to Ben Reeves in playing style? We do not need two like that (maybe not one like that).

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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,358
    Henry Irving said:

    paulie8290 said:

    Oggy Red said:

    Ferryman said:

    Lazy_eye_metaphor said:

    I don't think Dawkins would be any good for us so I'm happy that he won't be signing.

    We're probably waiting to shift Ajose to get Dawkins and Ward. Significant that RHF came on ahead of Ajose.
    Reeeco replaced Lyle Taylor ...... so like for like in style.

    Also I dont think he touched the ball
    He did. A throw in down by the corner he controlled and played back to the thrower, Dijksteel
    Why am I not surprised you knew that haha, whilst I was cheering you were seeing if your love child was gonna touch the ball :wink:
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,525
    Aethelstan said:

    Isn't Dawkins similar to Ben Reeves in playing style? We do not need two like that (maybe not one like that).

    What always injured?
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,418
    Aethelstan said:

    Isn't Dawkins similar to Ben Reeves in playing style? We do not need two like that (maybe not one like that).

    Saw him at Dulwich, and didn’t remind me of Reeves. Stronger for a start. He was tidy, but not sure how fit he was, so hard to know what he’s like from that showing.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,544
    Yeah a win doesn't gloss over the fact that we can't field a full bench.

    We need players, full stop. We'll have played something like 20% of our fixtures by the time Fosu, Reeves, and Clarke are back. God help us if (when really) in the next six weeks we pick up another couple injuries.

    Last season we needed quality in depth. This season, we just need depth.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,517
    edited August 2018
    paulie8290 said:

    Henry Irving said:

    paulie8290 said:

    Oggy Red said:

    Ferryman said:

    Lazy_eye_metaphor said:

    I don't think Dawkins would be any good for us so I'm happy that he won't be signing.

    We're probably waiting to shift Ajose to get Dawkins and Ward. Significant that RHF came on ahead of Ajose.
    Reeeco replaced Lyle Taylor ...... so like for like in style.

    Also I dont think he touched the ball
    He did. A throw in down by the corner he controlled and played back to the thrower, Dijksteel
    Why am I not surprised you knew that haha, whilst I was cheering you were seeing if your love child was gonna touch the ball :wink:
    Yes, I watch the game. Some of us can cheer and watch at the same time lol ha ha winky thing
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,497
    Does Dawkins fit in with the systems we are playing now, the 442 merging into 352?
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,990
    edited August 2018
    killerandflash said:

    Does Dawkins fit in with the systems we are playing now, the 442 merging into 352?

    I don't see why not.

    If he'd been signed on, he could have played the same role positionally as young Albie Morgan - or even as a winger.
    But probably not as wingback.


    IMO it seems that Bowyer wants a hardworking, hard running team.
    Players need to have a good engine.

    Bowyer's already said he's been impressed with Dawkins' technical ability on the ball - but questioned his stamina.
    Maybe that's why he hasn't been signed?





  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,761
    With both of them being frees we can keep them training with us as long as we like and sign them if we have (another) injury crisis before january. Not great for the players though not have a contract but still training day in day out.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,761
    Covered_End_Lad said:

    With both of them being frees we can keep them training with us as long as we like and sign them if we have (another) injury crisis before january. Not great for the players though not have a contract but still training day in day out.

    Having said that, if noone else is interested in them, they get to use training facilities and coaches for free so it is swings a roundabouts i guess.

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