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Krystian Bielik - now Birmingham captain (p11)

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  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    blackpool72 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Bielik is the best footballer at the club, followed by Cullen and Taylor

    Taylor is the only one we cannot afford to lose.
    That makes him number one imo.
    Difference in being the best player at the club or the most important to being the best footballer at the club

    I wouldn’t expect anyone to get POTY over Taylor for example

    But that don’t make him the best footballer
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,687
    nth london addick said:

    blackpool72 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Bielik is the best footballer at the club, followed by Cullen and Taylor

    Taylor is the only one we cannot afford to lose.
    That makes him number one imo.
    Difference in being the best player at the club or the most important to being the best footballer at the club

    I wouldn’t expect anyone to get POTY over Taylor for example

    But that don’t make him the best footballer
    I agree.
    But without doubt he is the hardest to replace.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    blackpool72 said:

    nth london addick said:

    blackpool72 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Bielik is the best footballer at the club, followed by Cullen and Taylor

    Taylor is the only one we cannot afford to lose.
    That makes him number one imo.
    Difference in being the best player at the club or the most important to being the best footballer at the club

    I wouldn’t expect anyone to get POTY over Taylor for example

    But that don’t make him the best footballer
    I agree.
    But without doubt he is the hardest to replace.
    Totally agree and probably the most popular in the team as well as fan base he is a huge player for us
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,390
    nth london addick said:

    blackpool72 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Bielik is the best footballer at the club, followed by Cullen and Taylor

    Taylor is the only one we cannot afford to lose.
    That makes him number one imo.
    Difference in being the best player at the club or the most important to being the best footballer at the club

    I wouldn’t expect anyone to get POTY over Taylor for example

    But that don’t make him the best footballer
    It really depends what you mean by best footballer.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,687
    nth london addick said:

    blackpool72 said:

    nth london addick said:

    blackpool72 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Bielik is the best footballer at the club, followed by Cullen and Taylor

    Taylor is the only one we cannot afford to lose.
    That makes him number one imo.
    Difference in being the best player at the club or the most important to being the best footballer at the club

    I wouldn’t expect anyone to get POTY over Taylor for example

    But that don’t make him the best footballer
    I agree.
    But without doubt he is the hardest to replace.
    Totally agree and probably the most popular in the team as well as fan base he is a huge player for us
    Glad we are in total agreement.
    Happy New year mate.
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    blackpool72 said:

    nth london addick said:

    blackpool72 said:

    nth london addick said:

    blackpool72 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Bielik is the best footballer at the club, followed by Cullen and Taylor

    Taylor is the only one we cannot afford to lose.
    That makes him number one imo.
    Difference in being the best player at the club or the most important to being the best footballer at the club

    I wouldn’t expect anyone to get POTY over Taylor for example

    But that don’t make him the best footballer
    I agree.
    But without doubt he is the hardest to replace.
    Totally agree and probably the most popular in the team as well as fan base he is a huge player for us
    Glad we are in total agreement.
    Happy New year mate.
    You too mate
  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    Scoham said:

    nth london addick said:

    blackpool72 said:

    ValleyGary said:

    Bielik is the best footballer at the club, followed by Cullen and Taylor

    Taylor is the only one we cannot afford to lose.
    That makes him number one imo.
    Difference in being the best player at the club or the most important to being the best footballer at the club

    I wouldn’t expect anyone to get POTY over Taylor for example

    But that don’t make him the best footballer
    It really depends what you mean by best footballer.

    Control and quality on the ball Vision and footballing brain

    He may give it away but that’s more an experience issue

    He is without doubt one of the most composed and technically gifted players we have had in ages

    Him and Cullen are head and shoulders above the rest with the exception of possibly Williams as mentioned by jimmy s
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    edited January 2019
    ,,,
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    edited January 2019
    Don't agree I think Anil Cock had it all mind you Rod Fanny was close
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,902
    Slightly surprised that we still have Bielik. I guess Arsenal feel that a whole season as a first choice player in L1 is better than sending him to the Championship, and risking him playing less

    It probably helps that we play a passing game as well

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  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,109
    Briston_Addick said:

    ForeverAddickted said:

    You don't often see that in the "Skills Test" in Masterchef ...
    That’s all very well but can he boil an egg!
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,233
    That is outrageous!
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Called up for the full Polish squad today.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,046
    Good player but i'm of the opinion that we've barely noticed he's gone.

    And once Kayal is fit i think we'll see an even bigger improvement in our play.
  • StigThundercock
    StigThundercock Posts: 3,722
    Not missing Bielik is entirely down to the performances thus far of one Darren Pratley.  We sorely missed a Bielik type influence against Forest, cos Sam Field was way less effective than Bielik was or Pratley has been.  KB's a fine player, as we'll see when we play Derby.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,414
    Cullen > Bielik for me I watched Derby on the box the other week and he didn't really seem to stand out, Cullen is all action and hardworking with a bit of quality. I think we got the better player
  • superdulvertonred
    superdulvertonred Posts: 1,142
    Cullen is a very good player we are very lucky to have but I think Belik has the potential to be an exceptional player 
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,161
    superdulvertonred said:
    Cullen is a very good player we are very lucky to have but I think Belik has the potential to be an exceptional player 
    I agree. He is younger than Cullen, and last season was pretty much his first as a regular first teamer, yet he improved game by game to become many people's MoM at Wembley. Imagine how much better he'd become this season had he stayed with us. I've got huge respect for Pratley, but over the season we'd be a better team if we had Bielik. Then again, £10m...
  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,539
    Cullen was MoM at Wembley for more people than Bielik as far as I know - only the telly box had to give it to an Arsenal player.

    Bielik has more room for improvement but at the moment Cullen is our metronome - how he plays dictates how we play. I thought he was too deep and struggled a bit on Sat as did the whole team. When Cullen is on form, though, which he is most of the time, so are we.
  • 000__Jaaaaay__000
    000__Jaaaaay__000 Posts: 2,342
    weird how people see the game differently, I am in no doubt bielik is by far the better player out the two. think some people refuse to see that as cullen is our player. 

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  • jacob_CAFC
    jacob_CAFC Posts: 2,063
    Bielek over Cullen for me, but not sure he's worth 10m
  • kentaddick
    kentaddick Posts: 18,729
    Got a bit excited when I saw this thread
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,414
    000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
    weird how people see the game differently, I am in no doubt bielik is by far the better player out the two. think some people refuse to see that as cullen is our player. 

    I personally think Cullen offers more to the team, Bielik is a bit of a luxury players (not exactly) but JC puts a lot of energy on the field and gets all over the pitch. Bielik had quality aswell and definitely agree we would be better with him in our side with Cullen but I think we have done better if it was a choice of one of the other....
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    edited August 2019
    Bielik had a tremendous loan spell at Charlton despite the various Injuries, not helped by the kick in the gonads by an over zealous fan.
    Cullen was fantastic and the return of Josh after his efforts last season is magic.
    West ham loss is our gain at least till January.
    Score draw for me and I wish then both well in their future careers.  

  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Bielik will have the better career and is probably a better player already but Cullen is the perfect player for us and the way we play. 

    I am honestly shocked one of the bigger spending clubs didn't get Josh either on a perm or loan. 

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,361
    Gallagher will eclipse them both.
  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,496
    johnnybev1987 said:
    Cullen > Bielik for me I watched Derby on the box the other week and he didn't really seem to stand out, Cullen is all action and hardworking with a bit of quality. I think we got the better player
    I don't think he'll stand out as much at centre back. Do think he's wasted there really unless played as a 3 where he can bring the ball out. 
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,773
    Think its unfair to really compare Cullen and Belik, both had different attributes and played a similar position but a completely different way.

    Cullen is much better dribbling the ball and running into pockets of space and can take on a man and develop play, as well as getting the ball in tight spaces and making positive short passes out of it. Belik is much better at breaking up play, being more physical and playing more direct passes out from the back line.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,902
    It seems we had big competition for Bielik in the summer!
    Krystian Bielik says AC Milan wanted to sign him before he made his summer move to Derby County.
    According to Bielik, the Italian giants were keen to snap him up from Arsenal - but nothing came of it in the end.

    https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/krystian-bielik-says-ac-milan-3287412

  • CAFCOlly
    CAFCOlly Posts: 523
    Just a shame that Derby are wasting him at CB. Bielik's stand out performance for me was against Portsmouth at home last season when he played DM.

    Unfortunately managers will look at his height and think that he's best at CB. 

    Quality player when played in his position. Average when played as a centre back. 

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