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Bowyer’s best XI...

It came up in the post match discussion earlier so thought I’d make a thread.

This is especially tough in midfield where we now seem to have a wealth of options.

Who would you pick for our current best XI, if everyone was fit?
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  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Copied from my comment on match thread

    My personal team:
    Maxwell
    Solly Bauer Pearce Page
    Bielik
    Cullen Aribo
    Williams
    Taylor Grant

    Subs:
    Phillips
    Dijksteel, Sarr
    Reeves, Clarke
    Fosu, Igor
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Copied mine from post match thread

    Personally

    ---------------Phillips-------------------
    Solly BFG Pearce Page
    ----------------Bielik---------------------
    -----------Aribo Cullen---------------
    ---------------Williams----------------
    -----------Taylor Grant---------------

    Harsh on Naby I know but if we are leading towards the end take Williams off for Naby to defend the lead, but personally thing BFG and Pearce are 1 of the greatest partnerships at Centre Back we have had
  • Phillips
    Beliek Bauer. Sarr Page
    Cullen
    Lapslie. Aribo
    Willams
    Taylor. Grant
  • Phillips
    Solly | Bauer | Pearce | Page
    Cullen | Bielik | Aribo
    Williams
    Grant | Taylor

    Maxwell - Purrington - Sarr - Lapslie - Clarke - Fosu - Vetokele
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955

    Once everybody is fit, Bowyer's got some tremendous players available for this level.

    Only one caveat ..... the 11 best players, rarely make the best team.


    Wasn't it Lawrie McMenemy, having guided Southampton to 2nd place finish in the Prem, who said something like:
    "You need 9 virtuosos and 2 roadsweepers in a successful team".


    Perhaps Bowyer and Jacko have already chewed the cud on this question over endless cups of tea after training. I expect they'll have more idea than I do.

  • Oggy Red said:


    Once everybody is fit, Bowyer's got some tremendous players available for this level.

    Only one caveat ..... the 11 best players, rarely make the best team.


    Wasn't it Lawrie McMenemy, having guided Southampton to 2nd place finish in the Prem, who said something like:
    "You need 9 virtuosos and 2 roadsweepers in a successful team".


    Perhaps Bowyer and Jacko have already chewed the cud on this question over endless cups of tea after training. I expect they'll have more idea than I do.

    I think the best answer is there's no set eleven that makes the best team - Some players will do better in training than others whilst certain teams will require a certain approach like when we faced Bradford last season; Sarr was favoured at LB over Dasilva because of the long balls we'd have to deal with.

    Ideally I like to think of the Northampton game last season where it was either Bowyer or their manager who commenfed on their players crying when they saw us potentially having Mavididi / Kaikai / Fosu on the pitch because of the pace that could hurt them - In this aspect you'd hope opposing teams are crying at the prospect of playing us because we've so many options that can unlock an opponent they're left not knowing who we'd play
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168

    Copied mine from post match thread

    Personally

    ---------------Phillips-------------------
    Solly BFG Pearce Page
    ----------------Bielik---------------------
    -----------Aribo Cullen---------------
    ---------------Williams----------------
    -----------Taylor Grant---------------

    Harsh on Naby I know but if we are leading towards the end take Williams off for Naby to defend the lead, but personally thing BFG and Pearce are 1 of the greatest partnerships at Centre Back we have had

    Wooooaaaaahhhhh. Steady on Cowboy!
  • Phillips or Maxwell
    Solly Bauer Pearce Page
    Cullen
    Reeves Aribo
    Williams
    Grant Taylor

    This is what I posted on the other thread, but it could easily be tweaked depending on the opposition.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Fosu gets in in home games, IMO. Makes things happen
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    wmcf123 said:

    Fosu gets in in home games, IMO. Makes things happen

    Fosu blows hot and cold too much, has moments of magic and also moments where he wants to do countless stepovers, flicks, tricks, and trying to beat the same player three times. A potential match winner but for me it's him or Williams and Williams gets the nod for me. Fosu will be a great player to bring off the bench to run at tired defenders.
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  • Fosu is only effective as a winger in 4-4-2 which LB won't play. Doesn't make him a poor player though.
  • timken
    timken Posts: 1,001
    how can cafcfan pick maxwell over phillips when has almost certainly never seen hom play
  • Jess, I can't believe some of you have forgotten him...

    If everyone is fit...

    Phillips
    Solly, Bauer, Pearce, Page
    JFC
    Cullen, Reeves
    Williams
    Taylor, Grant
  • Very true Loopy... Ahead of Bielik though?
  • Very true Loopy... Ahead of Bielik though?

    Yes. I made a mistake with Cullen. I'm not a big fan of loan players (however well they're playing). So I'll replace Cullen with Aribo...
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Haha I did forget about JFC
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,168
    edited January 2019
    Tough one. Assuming everyone is fit, on top form, and we’re just looking to impose our game on the opposition, then I’d say it’s:

    Phillips
    Solly Bielik Sarr Page

    Cullen
    Williams Aribo
    Fosu

    Taylor Grant

    There are things to consider other than just who are the 11 best footballers though.

    For example, although I like Bielik best at centre back, playing him midfield adds an extra physical presence that helps us in both boxes. Playing at the base of the diamond also means he can deal with a lot of long high balls that allows the centre backs to focus on picking up runners in case Bielik loses out in the air. Cullen can’t offer that, and Bielek is not that much worse on the ball than Cullen. If Bielek is in midfield Bauer plays by default because Sarr and Pearce both look bad at right centre back, not to say he’s not deserving of a place anyway.

    Sarr has been very good since his Christmas suspension, looks confident and switched on, and does allow us to play out better from the back. Pearce is such a warrior though, and an organiser, and he’s hardly a cart horse by centre back standards. Being more pragmatic than in my above selection I think I personally just favour Pearce, but it’s now a much tighter call than I think most would’ve predicted in August.

    Full backs pick themselves, at least until I’ve seen more of Purrington. As do the Strikers, best pair in the league, wouldn’t swap either of them for anyone. Similarly, Phillips has been great since he’s come back in, I wasn’t convinced previously but he looks much more solid now, so without ever seeing Maxwell play it’d be hard for me to pick him ahead of Phillips.

    So then it’s down to the three remaining midfielders. Aribo must play, he’s got an x-factor, can dribble like a winger, but is a box to box midfielder and scores goals. Fosu at his best is a real threat in this league, but Williams does a lot of what Fosu can do, and he appears to have everything Ben Reeves can offer. With such a well rounded player at the point of the diamond we can perhaps sacrifice Fosu for a little more defensive cover. I’d pick Cullen for that and his range of passing, plus Cullen is another who looks capable of at least playing one level up.

    So my real world best team is

    Phillips

    Solly Bauer Pearce Page

    Bielik
    Cullen Aribo
    Williams

    Taylor Grant

    And I genuinely think that team will get us promoted, probably automatically, IF they’re all fit and on form for as much of the rest of the season as possible, ideally to include matches vs the top 8.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,955



    Bielik
    Cullen Aribo
    Williams

    That just isn't a Third Division standard midfield, is it?

    Totally unfair to the other teams in our league. :smile:
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Oggy Red said:



    Bielik
    Cullen Aribo
    Williams

    That just isn't a Third Division standard midfield, is it?

    Totally unfair to the other teams in our league. :smile:
    Only one word for that midfield: 🤤
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    edited January 2019
    Oggy Red said:



    Bielik
    Cullen Aribo
    Williams

    That just isn't a Third Division standard midfield, is it?

    Totally unfair to the other teams in our league. :smile:
    You call that a midfield?

    I'll see that midfield and offer you Holmes, Foley, Crofts and Jackson from the start of the 16/17 season! ;)
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  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Scoham said:

    Oggy Red said:



    Bielik
    Cullen Aribo
    Williams

    That just isn't a Third Division standard midfield, is it?

    Totally unfair to the other teams in our league. :smile:
    Only one word for that midfield: 🤤
    Noneofthemwillbeattheclubnextseason ?
  • happyvalley
    happyvalley Posts: 8,996
    I'm surprised so many have left out Sarr, he has been superb lately.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Philips

    Solly BFG Sarr Page

    Cullen

    Aribo Reeves

    Williams

    Grant Taylor
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Cafc43v3r said:

    Philips

    Solly BFG Sarr Page

    Cullen

    Aribo Reeves

    Williams

    Grant Taylor

    Looking at that it's a bit weak down the left flank, just hope Leeds aren't spying on training.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Cafc43v3r said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    Philips

    Solly BFG Sarr Page

    Cullen

    Aribo Reeves

    Williams

    Grant Taylor

    Looking at that it's a bit weak down the left flank, just hope Leeds aren't spying on training.
    Reeves has had a good season and I don't mind that team. I do feel having Cullen, Reeves and Williams would definitely amount to the shortest one in the league though.
  • What a Great selection headache to have.
    For me there are certain players that pick themselves automatically
    Bauer,Beilek,Williams and Taylor- all would walk into any championship team.
    Nice problem for Bowyer to have
    COYR
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,274
    edited January 2019
    Phillips
    Solly. Beilik. Pearce. Page
    Cullen
    Aribo. Fosu
    Williams
    Grant. Taylor

    Would love to get promotion and hold onto our best players as I think we have the basis of a decent Championship team although would still need to splash some cash to really improve. Trouble is I think of the above only Solly, Page and Taylor have contracts beyond this season.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600

    Cafc43v3r said:

    Cafc43v3r said:

    Philips

    Solly BFG Sarr Page

    Cullen

    Aribo Reeves

    Williams

    Grant Taylor

    Looking at that it's a bit weak down the left flank, just hope Leeds aren't spying on training.
    Reeves has had a good season and I don't mind that team. I do feel having Cullen, Reeves and Williams would definitely amount to the shortest one in the league though.
    It was ment to be a joke about my poor formatting :tongue:

    I think Reeves would look even better playing with Williams and Cullen, a simple pass will always be on, the interact triangles would be sight to behold. It would also benifit Sarr.
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,786
    Looking at all of these teams, i know a majority of our players are on loan but if a new owner comes in and can get everyone signed up onto a new contract and bring in some of the loanees permanently, we have a decent championship side
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811

    Looking at all of these teams, i know a majority of our players are on loan but if a new owner comes in and can get everyone signed up onto a new contract and bring in some of the loanees permanently, we have a decent championship side

    I could certainly see Williams extending his contract. Would imagine Cullen could be available permanently. Not sure on Bielik, although I reckon we could have him for another year in the Champ.