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*Jonny Williams signs- 6 month deal*

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  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,308
    I would happily swap Jamie Ward back for Williams any day of the week. Doesn’t get into the box enough to make a difference. 

    After Grant left we needed players to step up and replace the goals and assists which we have lost. Too many players are to afraid to take risks.
  • lolwray
    lolwray Posts: 4,919
    If it's been said before apologies but









    Charltonised 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,460
    He looked fairly cack in that crypto trading ad on YouTube too, to be fair.
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,219
    edited February 2019
    jonesyAddick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Is this bloke more of a hinderance than help?

    He’s very technically gifted but his chance creation numbers relative to that ability is very very poor.

    Our last five games have produced one goal scored from open play (plus Karlan’s penalty).
    Not necessarily his fault that we are not scoring though, he replaced Ward not Grant - think you need to blame the owner blocking the free agent signing to replace the two strikers that we lost, not Williams - feel your frustration though pal.
    Not been an improvement on Ward either though. He’s a Robinson player. Looks very tidy 40 yards from goal but doesn’t actually make much happen in and around the box. 

    In fact, we look like a Robinson side in general at the moment. All the zip has gone out of our passing and too many players are static or turning sideways and backwards overplaying. 

    The tempo and directness of our attacks has been the big difference between Bowyer’s and Robinson’s teams. We need to get that tempo back. 
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,890
    edited February 2019
    He was getting shots off first half and no doubt had been encouraged to do so all week in training however nothing came off for him and his final ball second period was not good.
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    He's been getting the ball, moving it quickly into the last third, but having nobody in front of him. Quality player, like Simonsen, too good for those around him. 

  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,505
    Goals are really not Jonny's forte`
    Which for an attacking midfielder is not good
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,495
    No end product - can see why he hasn't played at the top level.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,505
    edited February 2019
    Flatters to deceive I think is apt.
    Looks like he's done it pretty much his whole career.
  • WestStandNeil
    WestStandNeil Posts: 803
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    No end product - can see why he hasn't played at the top level.
    Apart from the 12 prem games with Palace

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  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,510
    Exiled_Addick said:
    jonesyAddick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Is this bloke more of a hinderance than help?

    He’s very technically gifted but his chance creation numbers relative to that ability is very very poor.

    Our last five games have produced one goal scored from open play (plus Karlan’s penalty).
    Not necessarily his fault that we are not scoring though, he replaced Ward not Grant - think you need to blame the owner blocking the free agent signing to replace the two strikers that we lost, not Williams - feel your frustration though pal.
    Not been an improvement on Ward either though. He’s a Robinson player. Looks very tidy 40 yards from goal but doesn’t actually make much happen in and around the box. 

    In fact, we look like a Robinson side in general at the moment. All the zip has gone out of our passing and too many players are static or turning sideways and backwards overplaying. 

    The tempo and directness of our attacks has been the big difference between Bowyer’s and Robinson’s teams. We need to get that tempo back. 
    Karlan was a big part of that, pace up front makes a real difference. His pace was a threat both off the ball and with the ball. Ran in behind, won free kicks, won penalties, created chances and scored goals. Yet apparently he was limited and easy to replace.

    Creative players can’t pick out killer passes if all or most of the midfield want to be that passer and our strikers both tend to hold up the ball.
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,495
    WestStandNeil said:
    hoof_it_up_to_benty said:
    No end product - can see why he hasn't played at the top level.
    Apart from the 12 prem games with Palace
    I should have said consistently - he isn't impressing me and I can see why Palace let him go. He flatters to deceive.

    Hopefully he'll prove us all wrong...
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,240
    Yep. I agree. He looks all flash and impressive but delivers nothing. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,320
    Underwhelmed so far.
  • charlton_carl
    charlton_carl Posts: 926
    Final poor so poor. Couple of tones he got to the by line and his ball back across goal was awful. Needs to step up soon
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,017
    charlton_carl said:
    Final poor so poor. Couple of tones he got to the by line and his ball back across goal was awful. Needs to step up soon
    His balls back across goal today were nothing more than passes to their Goalkeeper - Werent testing in the slightest
  • charlton_carl
    charlton_carl Posts: 926
    ForeverAddickted said:
    charlton_carl said:
    Final poor so poor. Couple of tones he got to the by line and his ball back across goal was awful. Needs to step up soon
    His balls back across goal today were nothing more than passes to their Goalkeeper - Werent testing in the slightest
    Completely agree. That isn’t that he is too fast for the others. Just didn’t make it count
  • jonesyAddick
    jonesyAddick Posts: 159
    Exiled_Addick said:
    jonesyAddick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Is this bloke more of a hinderance than help?

    He’s very technically gifted but his chance creation numbers relative to that ability is very very poor.

    Our last five games have produced one goal scored from open play (plus Karlan’s penalty).
    Not necessarily his fault that we are not scoring though, he replaced Ward not Grant - think you need to blame the owner blocking the free agent signing to replace the two strikers that we lost, not Williams - feel your frustration though pal.
    Not been an improvement on Ward either though. He’s a Robinson player. Looks very tidy 40 yards from goal but doesn’t actually make much happen in and around the box. 

    In fact, we look like a Robinson side in general at the moment. All the zip has gone out of our passing and too many players are static or turning sideways and backwards overplaying. 

    The tempo and directness of our attacks has been the big difference between Bowyer’s and Robinson’s teams. We need to get that tempo back. 
    Fair comment mate
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,084
    Flatters to deceive is the best description and I said the same this afternoon.
    He looks like he can do something and will do something, but so far he hasn't.
    Pretty disappointing, as he's not improving.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,063
    Had an off day today

    I think he brings something different to the table, generally

    what we need, though, is goals

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  • paulsturgess
    paulsturgess Posts: 3,877
    I think he’s looked good so far. Not delivered anything of substance quite yet but clearly has ability, helps us create the little we do and even today whilst he didn’t find a killer pass or goal he looked more likely than most to do so, and certainly more so than lapslie who replaced him and did absolutely sweet FA

    Rest of the season is gonna be tough but think he’s as important as most to give us a crack, and he looks like he wants it. 

    Keep getting behind the bloke
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,219
    Scoham said:
    Exiled_Addick said:
    jonesyAddick said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Is this bloke more of a hinderance than help?

    He’s very technically gifted but his chance creation numbers relative to that ability is very very poor.

    Our last five games have produced one goal scored from open play (plus Karlan’s penalty).
    Not necessarily his fault that we are not scoring though, he replaced Ward not Grant - think you need to blame the owner blocking the free agent signing to replace the two strikers that we lost, not Williams - feel your frustration though pal.
    Not been an improvement on Ward either though. He’s a Robinson player. Looks very tidy 40 yards from goal but doesn’t actually make much happen in and around the box. 

    In fact, we look like a Robinson side in general at the moment. All the zip has gone out of our passing and too many players are static or turning sideways and backwards overplaying. 

    The tempo and directness of our attacks has been the big difference between Bowyer’s and Robinson’s teams. We need to get that tempo back. 
    Karlan was a big part of that, pace up front makes a real difference. His pace was a threat both off the ball and with the ball. Ran in behind, won free kicks, won penalties, created chances and scored goals. Yet apparently he was limited and easy to replace.

    Creative players can’t pick out killer passes if all or most of the midfield want to be that passer and our strikers both tend to hold up the ball.
    Absolutely, and you certainly won’t have read any comments from me playing down Grant’s importance or suggesting he’d be easily replaced. 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,505
    Siv_in_Norfolk said:
    Had an off day today

    I think he brings something different to the table, generally

    what we need, though, is goals
    And unfortunately that is an area where poor old Jonny is not a lot of use.
    Take a look back at his stats at previous club's.
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,733
    Him and aribo are the two sparks in our team, don't think it's fair when those around them aren't up to the job.
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,016

    Makes his punditry debut on BBC One Wales tonight for the Wales v Slovakia highlights programme.

    And there's a brief mention of CAFC. Lovely bloke and Olly Groome was great in setting it all up.

    On digital channel 952 (I think!), from 10.30pm.

      

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