The Oscars

Both.

It's the Oscars.

The Academy will get it wrong again and give it to ROMA . Good film but nowhere near the best. 

 

I used to really enjoy it. Then realised it’s not much different from Starbucks doing awards for the best makers of coffee and asking me to care. 

Loads of trades have awards, fair enough. But how seriously actors take themselves is cringe-inducing. 

Pleased for Coleman. She’s come a long way from starring in the peep show and Hot fuzz.
Seems like a genuinely lovely lady too.

They got best film right for me this year. Loved Green Book. 

Who'd have thought Olivia Coleman, an Oscar winner? Bloody brilliant. National treasure

Carter said:

Riviera said:

Laddick01 said:

Pleased for Coleman. She’s come a long way from starring in the peep show and Hot fuzz.
Seems like a genuinely lovely lady too.

And The Office...

She did her yards as well, in the early 2000s she was in loads of adverts before getting any sort of break 

Yep. I'm sure a lot will remember this one: Bev & Kev

Congratulations to Bohemian Rhapsody for winning the Oscar for most film editing.

MuttleyCAFC said:

JiMMy 85 said:

I used to really enjoy it. Then realised it’s not much different from Starbucks doing awards for the best makers of coffee and asking me to care. 

Loads of trades have awards, fair enough. But how seriously actors take themselves is cringe-inducing. 

Totally agree. It is just opinions of a few stuck up movie related people. Because of criticism, it has even moved beyond the best, and other considerations come into play.  

The voters for The Oscars are 8,000+ people who work in the industry. 

I think there's a lot of cultural value in storytelling - we've always done it - since we were sat around campfires or drawing on cave walls. Its how we passed on lessons and morals and tales of our ancestors and it carries a lot more weight and meaning compared to drinking coffee.

DaveMehmet said:

Laddick01 said:

Pleased for Coleman. She’s come a long way from starring in the peep show and Hot fuzz.
Seems like a genuinely lovely lady too.

And she got her growler out in Confetti

That's a Google search I'm going to resist

I caught Green Book yesterday, and came out raving about what a great film it is. To be honest, I wanted to see Bohemian Rhapsody to win, partly as I thought it was brilliant, and partly for the many critics who felt it would be more important to maintain some sort of finnicky adhesión to every minute detail, no matter how wretched a film that made it, Difference between good film makers and people who créate nothing but naively criticise the successfull who do I guess. 
Anyway, i was happy Bohemian Rhapsody got most Oscars, happy enought that the best firm was one that I enjoyed so much (I really didn't want Roma to win - a film that spends more money in oscar promotion than on actually being made really didn't deserve it, and I picked up a bit of a phobia about it having listened to so many critical intellectuals going on about how important and how bloody wonderfull it was.

Schrader's screenplay absolutely robbed tbh

I thought Black Panther was a good film, but I can think of a few super hero movies that were better. Is it really so significant a movie as people are claiming?  

Chunes said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

JiMMy 85 said:

I used to really enjoy it. Then realised it’s not much different from Starbucks doing awards for the best makers of coffee and asking me to care. 

Loads of trades have awards, fair enough. But how seriously actors take themselves is cringe-inducing. 

Totally agree. It is just opinions of a few stuck up movie related people. Because of criticism, it has even moved beyond the best, and other considerations come into play.  

The voters for The Oscars are 8,000+ people who work in the industry. 

I think there's a lot of cultural value in storytelling - we've always done it - since we were sat around campfires or drawing on cave walls. Its how we passed on lessons and morals and tales of our ancestors and it carries a lot more weight and meaning compared to drinking coffee.

The crazy thing is, many of those voters don't watch a lot of the movies they're voting for.

It's bizarre how the human brain works. We get told there's an official seal of approval and we buy into it. We ignore that the voters are just ticking boxes on a sheet of paper. Some of them are thinking "Well I want to vote for Black Panther cos it's got a great Africa thing going on" even though Black Panther really isn't that good a film.

Or "First Man didn't get a nomination for the 10 categories it should have done, I think I'll give it the special effects award" - I love First Man so much, but the special effects were beautifully simple (they built a giant LCD screen and played the backgrounds 'live' behind the actors). Infinity War is a far more incredible achievement. 

How many of those 8,000 can tell the difference between sound editing and mixing? Or really know what makes a great adapted screenplay? 

And if they really cared about editing, there's literally no way Bohemian Rhapsody could have won!! 

There's nothing 'official' about the actual voting. It's just human beings bashing out some votes, but once the seal appears on a movie, the movies seem to carry more clout and receive an upload of gravitas! 

MuttleyCAFC said:

I thought Black Panther was a good film, but I can think of a few super hero movies that were better. Is it really so significant a movie as people are claiming?  

I think yes, in regards to African culture and black actors featuring so heavily in a big-budget tentpole movie. It should lead to some degree of change in Hollywood.

Personally I think that was rewarded by a huge box office take. I don't think there's a single element of it that deserved to win an industry award, it's a standard 3 out of 5 Marvel movie. As someone said on the Latest Films thread, it's not even the best Marvel movie of 2018.