Big home game coming up - unfounded takeover rumour appears. Round we go again.
So lazy - on the one hand RD doesn’t care about protests, even though he says he does, on the other we supposedly have this sophisticated media operation to put them off, despite the fact the club didn’t know this story was coming yesterday.
Over on Twitter, meanwhile, the story in the Standard is a plot to sell copies of VOTV, even though it came out after that went to press.
I’ve no doubt the story has been put out for a purpose - to flush RD out on price. But the idea it’s about the other things is laughable.
I see it as the other way around.
Dachatelet putting it out there to those interested that £30 mill is in the ball park.
Had DW done this interview before any knowledge of the £30m banker bid? He seems pessimistic about a sale happening any time soon. If the bid has come in since, it's at least going to stir things up a bit surely.
From day 1 of Duchatelet's tenure, did Richard Murray back Roland because he had ambitions to one day return with a consortium to the board room because he had unfinished business with CAFC ?
Was Murray playing the long game because he knew that Duchatelet's network model was doomed to fail in English football ?
Is this impassé with the sale of Charlton because of quid pro quo between Duchatelet and Murray, plus RM finding it difficult to broker the deal because of RD eccentric behaviour.
Would the Cafc fan base accept Murray in some role if it meant Roland Duchatelet is history ?
Interesting interview with David White. @Airman Brown - which of his opinions do you disagree with? The idea that RD doesn't want promotion makes sense. I also think he's got right to the heart of how RD operates - on his own stubbornness regardless of what makes a rational business decision. I think you're right about people trying to flush out RD on price, but he is in a world of his own and I think we need more pressure on him.
Had DW done this interview before any knowledge of the £30m banker bid? He seems pessimistic about a sale happening any time soon. If the bid has come in since, it's at least going to stir things up a bit surely.
Given the SLP goes to press at lunchtime on Thursday, there's no way he could have given the interview subsequent to the story. It was done days earlier.
Interesting interview with David White. @Airman Brown - which of his opinions do you disagree with? The idea that RD doesn't want promotion makes sense. I also think he's got right to the heart of how RD operates - on his own stubbornness regardless of what makes a rational business decision. I think you're right about people trying to flush out RD on price, but he is in a world of his own and I think we need more pressure on him.
Price, mainly. On whether it has ever been close, I believe the principals and the professionals have believed it was - you don't put the contract into the EFL without believing that for a start. Hence the numerous stories to that effect from me, Rich Cawley, the Standard, Jim White, @JamesSeed and others.
I don't believe he doesn't want promotion - just that he isn't going to put any extra money into it because it's not guaranteed to deliver. He will believe that Vetokele is the answer because that's what his spreadsheet and probably Thomas Driesen tell him.
Had DW done this interview before any knowledge of the £30m banker bid? He seems pessimistic about a sale happening any time soon. If the bid has come in since, it's at least going to stir things up a bit surely.
Given the SLP goes to press at lunchtime on Thursday, there's no way he could have given the interview subsequent to the story. It was done days earlier.
And so I wonder IF the idea this offer is more potent than the 'previous five' - would he maybe say differently? Granted, given time for it to really develop what the new offer is.
Am I missing something? The article didn't really confirm that Murray was involved in the bid. Just said he went round to White's place with the Aussies.
So effectively reps for the buyer and seller approaching those owed.
I'm always one of the first to jump down muddled Murray's throat but would err on the side of caution in this circumstance.
Interesting read. I would not necessary assume on Murray’s involvement with the Aussie group from that as the Aussie group seems to have changed significantly in 18 months and it wasn’t expressed what actually was the purpose of that meeting.
Interesting interview with David White. @Airman Brown - which of his opinions do you disagree with? The idea that RD doesn't want promotion makes sense. I also think he's got right to the heart of how RD operates - on his own stubbornness regardless of what makes a rational business decision. I think you're right about people trying to flush out RD on price, but he is in a world of his own and I think we need more pressure on him.
Price, mainly. On whether it has ever been close, I believe the principals and the professionals have believed it was - you don't put the contract into the EFL without believing that for a start. Hence the numerous stories to that effect from me, Rich Cawley, the Standard, Jim White, @JamesSeed and others.
I don't believe he doesn't want promotion - just that he isn't going to put any extra money into it because it's not guaranteed to deliver. He will believe that Vetokele is the answer because that's what his spreadsheet and probably Thomas Driesen tell him.
How can you say that you dont believe he doesnt want promotion, he pretty much said that the other day himself
Interesting interview with David White. @Airman Brown - which of his opinions do you disagree with? The idea that RD doesn't want promotion makes sense. I also think he's got right to the heart of how RD operates - on his own stubbornness regardless of what makes a rational business decision. I think you're right about people trying to flush out RD on price, but he is in a world of his own and I think we need more pressure on him.
Price, mainly. On whether it has ever been close, I believe the principals and the professionals have believed it was - you don't put the contract into the EFL without believing that for a start. Hence the numerous stories to that effect from me, Rich Cawley, the Standard, Jim White, @JamesSeed and others.
I don't believe he doesn't want promotion - just that he isn't going to put any extra money into it because it's not guaranteed to deliver. He will believe that Vetokele is the answer because that's what his spreadsheet and probably Thomas Driesen tell him.
How can you say that you dont believe he doesnt want promotion, he pretty much said that the other day himself
Don’t think he did. He knows the club is worth more in the Championship.
Interesting read. I would not necessary assume on Murray’s involvement with the Aussie group from that as the Aussie group seems to have changed significantly in 18 months and it wasn’t expressed what actually was the purpose of that meeting.
Equally not writing it off though.
99% sure he wasn’t involved with GM group, not as part of consortium at least.
Possibly offered to ‘help’ the negotiations, possibly in the hope of a continuing role at the club. [My speculation only].
Am I missing something? The article didn't really confirm that Murray was involved in the bid. Just said he went round to Whitehands place with the Aussies.
So effectively reps for the buyer and seller approaching those owed.
I'm always one of the first to jump down muddled Murray's throat but would air on the side of caution in this circumstance.
White not Whitehand. Agree your interpretation might be reasonable, but in October 2017 the board’s position was that the club wasn't for sale. As per the Robinson article, the “member of the board” denied the story. That was always a peculiar construction if he meant the chief executive or Roland. Why not just name them?
If that’s true, I wonder at which stage he became involved. Oct ‘17 or before?
Unlikely to have been before as he was 'involved' elsewhere.
Gardikiotis? This goes back to the issue of the "two Australians bids". I could never connect Gardikiotis to Murphy/Muir, other than overlap of nationality. If Murray was working with Gardikiotis and there were indeed two separate approaches here, there would have been a conflict of interest in him representing the club with Murphy/Muir, wouldn't there?
All the world’s a stage, and all the Charlton Life men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man Richard Murray, in his time plays many parts.
As You Like it
Roland Duchatelet and Richard Murray if you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
The Merchant of Venice
The web of our Charlton life is of a mingled yarn, good and ill together.
All the world’s a stage, and all the Charlton Life men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man Richard Murray, in his time plays many parts.
As You Like it
Roland Duchatelet and Richard Murray if you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
The Merchant of Venice
The web of our Charlton life is of a mingled yarn, good and ill together.
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Was Murray playing the long game because he knew that Duchatelet's network model was doomed to fail in English football ?
Is this impassé with the sale of Charlton because of quid pro quo between Duchatelet and Murray, plus RM finding it difficult to broker the deal because of RD eccentric behaviour.
Would the Cafc fan base accept Murray in some role if it meant Roland Duchatelet is history ?
https://www.londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-boss-karl-robinson-reacts-to-report-that-takeover-talks-at-advanced-stage/
I don't believe he doesn't want promotion - just that he isn't going to put any extra money into it because it's not guaranteed to deliver. He will believe that Vetokele is the answer because that's what his spreadsheet and probably Thomas Driesen tell him.
Look forward to the next one if we get into the play offs.
The article didn't really confirm that Murray was involved in the bid.
Just said he went round to White's place with the Aussies.
So effectively reps for the buyer and seller approaching those owed.
I'm always one of the first to jump down muddled Murray's throat but would err on the side of caution in this circumstance.
Equally not writing it off though.
Or when he successfully set up hands-free Bluetooth phone calling in the car without my help. I'm still astonished at that to this day.
Possibly offered to ‘help’ the negotiations, possibly in the hope of a continuing role at the club. [My speculation only].
23 goals in 25 games..
All the world’s a stage, and all the Charlton Life men and women merely players. They have their exits and their entrances; And one man Richard Murray, in his time plays many parts.
As You Like it
Roland Duchatelet and Richard Murray if you prick us, do we not bleed? If you tickle us, do we not laugh? If you poison us, do we not die? And if you wrong us, shall we not revenge?
The Merchant of Venice
The web of our Charlton life is of a mingled yarn, good and ill together.
All's well That Ends Well (let's bloody hope so)