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Fans Forum part deux - Mon 4 March 2019

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  • Don’t get me wrong. I thank the members of the fans forum for giving up their time for the benefit of fans. It’s a thankless task but I do think that it’s time for those fans representing us to show some grit when dealing with the club. These people running the club are in the main but certainly not all taking advantage of the seemingly unending goodwill and patience of us fans. Stand up and start laying down a few conditions of your own. 
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,013
    Don’t get me wrong. I thank the members of the fans forum for giving up their time for the benefit of fans. It’s a thankless task but I do think that it’s time for those fans representing us to show some grit when dealing with the club. These people running the club are in the main but certainly not all taking advantage of the seemingly unending goodwill and patience of us fans. Stand up and start laying down a few conditions of your own. 
    I appreciate that the representatives are giving up their own time but have to agree with SHG. 

    It just seems to be a box-ticking exercise for the club at the moment. 

    Why make it easy for them? They should be in a position whereby they are taken out of their comfort zone and cannot just provide the same answers at virtually every meeting. 

    It just seems too easy for them at the moment. 

  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,587
    The minutes are being checked this evening by two of those present and should be available very soon
    And is that because the issue was raised here and someone chased the Club or is it just coincidence, which if claimed it is, I just don’t buy.
  • Goonerhater
    Goonerhater Posts: 12,677
    Be the agenda setters.Tell them mins out in 48 hours or the Fans put them out into the cyber world without the clubs agreement
  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,774
    minutes will be available 48-72 hrs
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    minutes will be available 48-72 hrs
    Are we supposed to take any notice of you?
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,862
    What happens if the FF put out their version after 24hours ?

    do the club ban them ? 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,587
    As someone said above they should be out within a max of 72 hours and if not the FF members should be free to let us know what was said. At the moment the FF doesn’t exactly feel as if they are representing the fans.
  • stonemuse said:
    Don’t get me wrong. I thank the members of the fans forum for giving up their time for the benefit of fans. It’s a thankless task but I do think that it’s time for those fans representing us to show some grit when dealing with the club. These people running the club are in the main but certainly not all taking advantage of the seemingly unending goodwill and patience of us fans. Stand up and start laying down a few conditions of your own. 
    I appreciate that the representatives are giving up their own time but have to agree with SHG. 

    It just seems to be a box-ticking exercise for the club at the moment. 

    Why make it easy for them? They should be in a position whereby they are taken out of their comfort zone and cannot just provide the same answers at virtually every meeting. 

    It just seems too easy for them at the moment. 

    It might be a box ticking exercise for them, but it does stop them from playing the “we like better communication but the fans won’t engage with us” card. 

    At at least we can say we do talk to them, but they just talk bollocks. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,587
    The minutes are being checked this evening by two of those present and should be available very soon
    Any news? Can you define ‘very soon’? Are they ‘imminent’?
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,232
    New owners want to sign them off, as soon as that has happened they will be released.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,232
    I imagine that the real reason for the delay may be that Steve Gallen was rather clever in the way he named Thomas Driesen as still needing to sign off on players bought while some of SGs pragmatic comments about having to shop in league 1 and league 2 next season may not be as positive as the regime would like.

    As a result the fans may not be as happy to sign off the version of the meeting that the club would like to put out.

    My speculation, of course.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,636
    edited March 2019
    I imagine that the real reason for the delay may be that Steve Gallen was rather clever in the way he named Thomas Driesen as still needing to sign off on players bought while some of SGs pragmatic comments about having to shop in league 1 and league 2 next season may not be as positive as the regime would like.

    As a result the fans may not be as happy to sign off the version of the meeting that the club would like to put out.

    My speculation, of course.
    Their isn't a "version" the club want to put out. It was either said or it wasnt. If it was said & the club dont want to say so then the FF need to put out their "version". 

    It's no time for niceties. Just fecking do it. 
  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,305
    What about holding a demo outside the ground whist the meeting is taking place, wouldn't  'affect the game' then. Could get JW and SJ to come down too!!!.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,861
    So these official minutes still aren't out yet?

    Lauaghable really. A fans forum that is apparently designed to ensure a dialogue with the fans, but unless you're one of the chosen few in the room the wider fanbase don't get to know what was said.

    Only at Charlton.


  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    edited March 2019
    The readers “will have to get creative to reach the valuation” of those who took the notes. The current price is £70 pounds for their release. The “customers” can pay 1/2 now but the note taker demands to keep the paper and pens until the remainder is paid. Or, he will release the notes for £1, but he gets to keep the website it is posted on.
  • minutes will be available 48-72 hrs
    2 weeks I heard, but then I know FA.
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,108
    How many ‘F’s’ in minutes?










    there is no F in minutes and there is no F in takeover
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,013
    I imagine that the real reason for the delay may be that Steve Gallen was rather clever in the way he named Thomas Driesen as still needing to sign off on players bought while some of SGs pragmatic comments about having to shop in league 1 and league 2 next season may not be as positive as the regime would like.

    As a result the fans may not be as happy to sign off the version of the meeting that the club would like to put out.

    My speculation, of course.
    It's probably this.
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,118
    Beyond a joke now
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  • Airman Brown
    Airman Brown Posts: 15,742
    edited March 2019
    I imagine that the real reason for the delay may be that Steve Gallen was rather clever in the way he named Thomas Driesen as still needing to sign off on players bought while some of SGs pragmatic comments about having to shop in league 1 and league 2 next season may not be as positive as the regime would like.

    As a result the fans may not be as happy to sign off the version of the meeting that the club would like to put out.

    My speculation, of course.
    That makes no sense as the Driesen / recruitment stuff has already been published by the club.

    Given they were talking about pricing it’s far more likely the club doesn’t want to share the discussion it had on this issue ahead of putting its own spin on the price increases.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,013
    The minutes are being checked this evening by two of those present and should be available very soon
    ?
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,470
    edited March 2019
    Full notes here,apparently, hidden as much as possible on club website.
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/uploads/1a739b721d97d5ab1da96347c7e8f23e

  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,861
    clive said:
    Full notes here,apparently, hidden as much as possible on club website.
    https://www.cafc.co.uk/uploads/1a739b721d97d5ab1da96347c7e8f23e


    Lol, seriously?

    Is that it?

    That took two and a half weeks to concoct?



  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,013
    That is not impressive. 
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    What a waste of time 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,587
    really? Two and a half weeks for that? Not impressed.
  • Who is Alex Avery ?
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Who is Alex Avery ?
    Database and Marketing Coordinator
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,861
    edited March 2019
    I imagine that the real reason for the delay may be that Steve Gallen was rather clever in the way he named Thomas Driesen as still needing to sign off on players bought while some of SGs pragmatic comments about having to shop in league 1 and league 2 next season may not be as positive as the regime would like.

    As a result the fans may not be as happy to sign off the version of the meeting that the club would like to put out.

    My speculation, of course.
    That makes no sense as the Driesen / recruitment stuff has already been published by the club.

    Given they were talking about pricing it’s far more likely the club doesn’t want to share the discussion it had on this issue ahead of putting its own spin on the price increases.

    It makes no sense at all as apparently no such thing was ever discussed.

    In fact, according to the minutes, Steve Gallen (SG) didn't make any form of meaningful contribution to the meeting whatsoever. Was he actually even there?