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Cost to increase the Valley?

Valley27000
Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
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Say we was a premiership club these days what would it cost to expand the Valley to say 40,000?  £m?.
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  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,647
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  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    *were
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,105
    Premiership?
    so is that football in Scotland or rugby in England?
  • newyorkaddick
    newyorkaddick Posts: 3,053
    The amount of additional potential matchday income would be immaterial compared to the huge TV money now available in the Premier League.  Hard to see why it would be worth it unless we were well established and confident of filling those seats for every game, and even then the payback period would be quite long.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,861
    Valley27000 said:
    Say we was a premiership club these days what would it cost to expand the Valley to say 40,000?  £m?.

    I would say getting the undersoil heating connected to some form of heat source would be the first priority!
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,264
    £77m
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    £26m?.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,264
    But it will never happen

    We'll move to a new ground and the Valley will be turned into a community stadium with a plastic pitch.

    That's the big hold up on the takeover.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,228
    edited April 2019
    I'd like to see the South corners filled some day. If anything just so away fans can be housed in the South East corner and also given the East blocks A and B while we finally reclaim the Jimmy Seed stand or at least half of it. 

    It won't make any dent on income though and a 40,000 stadium would look even emptier than it does now if we plummeted back down to League One again. 

    Got a feeling we might never see The Valley increase beyond it's current capacity. 

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  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,742
    stackitsteve said:
    Premiership?
    so is that football in Scotland or rugby in England?
    I find it much easier to use the terms Division One (or First Division), Division Two (Second Division), Division Three (Third Division), and Division Four (fourth Division) when referring to the top tiers of English football, with the Conference below that, followed by Conference North/South, Southern/Northern/Isthmian Leagues, etc.

    These are names that stand the test of time, cut through the marketing ballcocks, and, most importantly, are easy to understand.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,105
    At some point the top 3 flights of English football could all be refered to as “division one” in some way

    regardless of sponsorship etc if you say “the premier league” I don’t think many people will be confused what division you’re taking about.

    ”premiership” just bugs me...it’s been 12 years!
  • EastStand
    EastStand Posts: 4,109
    About 7 years and god only knows how much money before we even need to think about it. 
  • doronron
    doronron Posts: 819
    I think both our neighbours at Selhurst and Bermondsey are both having there grounds made bigger and re_vamped 
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Premier League.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,619
    newyorkaddick said:
    The amount of additional potential matchday income would be immaterial compared to the huge TV money now available in the Premier League.  Hard to see why it would be worth it unless we were well established and confident of filling those seats for every game, and even then the payback period would be quite long.
    And that’s why Clubs like Bournemouth, Burnley, Palace etc can survive with capacities below what we have currently. 
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,606
    Is this a late April Fools  ? 
  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    RaplhMilne said:
    Is this a late April Fools  ? 
    No.
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    doronron said:
    I think both our neighbours at Selhurst and Bermondsey are both having there grounds made bigger and re_vamped 
    Millwall cannot fill the New Den, why expand?
  • Brendan_O_Connell
    Brendan_O_Connell Posts: 8,938
    PopIcon said:
    doronron said:
    I think both our neighbours at Selhurst and Bermondsey are both having there grounds made bigger and re_vamped 
    Millwall cannot fill the New Den, why expand?
    There’s a surplus of spanners being released from her majesties pleasure very soon. 

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  • drewman
    drewman Posts: 1,104
    PopIcon said:
    doronron said:
    I think both our neighbours at Selhurst and Bermondsey are both having there grounds made bigger and re_vamped 
    Millwall cannot fill the New Den, why expand?
    They can when we're there.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,927
    Millwall aren't expanding, the massive arguments are about the property developments around the ground in "trendy" Bermondsey...
  • up_the_valley
    up_the_valley Posts: 4,222
    edited April 2019
    Brendan_O_Connell said:
    *were
    Honestly. Why do some people feel the need to mock people for their spelling etc?
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    Henry Irving said:
    £77m
    You beat me to it.
  • NapaAddick
    NapaAddick Posts: 4,657
    PopIcon said:
    doronron said:
    I think both our neighbours at Selhurst and Bermondsey are both having there grounds made bigger and re_vamped 
    Millwall cannot fill the New Den, why expand?
    Any club that ever wants to be a true-PL club had better be averaging at least 30,000 per match or they are eventually doomed. How Bournemouth has stayed up with 11,000 is a miracle. It's about thinking long-term. If we are happy being at best a yo-yo club someday or just a Championship club, we don't need to change anything.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,495
    up_the_valley said:
    Brendan_O_Connell said:
    *were
    Honestly. Why do some people feel the need to mock people for their spelling etc?
    Why do you presume they are being mocked.....if someone pointed a spelling mistake out to me, I’d be perfectly happy to be corrected. You are never too old to learn.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,371
    up_the_valley said:
    Brendan_O_Connell said:
    *were
    Honestly. Why do some people feel the need to mock people for their spelling etc?

    Nope.  That one's ok UTV...  carry on.
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,228
    newyorkaddick said:
    The amount of additional potential matchday income would be immaterial compared to the huge TV money now available in the Premier League.  Hard to see why it would be worth it unless we were well established and confident of filling those seats for every game, and even then the payback period would be quite long.
    @NapaAddick there's your answer why Bournemouth survive each year. Comfortably too I'll add. 
  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,968
    We cannot afford cleaners or even to keep the lights on so sod worrying about how much it would cost to increase The Valley
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348
    Sounds more and more like we won't be at The Valley in 10 years.

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