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  • Weegie Addick
    Weegie Addick Posts: 16,689
    edited April 2019
    While we play the "what if" game, what if Phillips had been ever-present in goal?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,286
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    I know these things supposedly 'average out over a season' but the 3 points dropped due to that farcical Peterborough penalty plus Grant's penalty miss away to Peterborough will likely cost us.


    No dig against you but Grant's miss against Peterborough is beginning to piss me right off - i.e. Why is no one talking about the Rochdale game when Taylor had a penalty saved that day too, and we got nothing from that game thanks to that!!

    At the same time though I'd still love the FA to explain why they refused to rescind Taylor's red card - By refusing to comment on the reason for me says they dont have a reason and that was just as costly as the Peterborough penalty at the start of the season which was also given for reasons that the referee couldnt explain

    Fair point, had forgotten Rochdale.

    But then we had a late penalty v Accrington, a last gasp equaliser at Luton, a late winner home to Shrewsbury, late winner at Burton etc so we can't complain too much.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,193
    bobmunro said:
    We are talking about the games we lost that might cost us - what about the games we've won where, to be honest, we didn't deserve to? A 46 games season levels out the good and bad luck. If we get an automatic, we deserve it - if we finish in the play-offs then, over a 46 game season we deserve it.
    Are you trying to suggest that the Burton games (H) and (A) werent tactical masterminds from Lee Bowyer where we deliberately let teams dominate us?
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,098
    ForeverAddickted said:
    bobmunro said:
    We are talking about the games we lost that might cost us - what about the games we've won where, to be honest, we didn't deserve to? A 46 games season levels out the good and bad luck. If we get an automatic, we deserve it - if we finish in the play-offs then, over a 46 game season we deserve it.
    Are you trying to suggest that the Burton games (H) and (A) werent tactical masterminds from Lee Bowyer where we deliberately let teams dominate us?

    Precisely - in fact as I walked back to the car after the Burton away game I was passed by a geyser on a horse shouting 'stand and deliver' - and it wasn't Adam Ant!
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,498
    somehow they seem to be a team that lacks long term confidence .. they get on top and then fade away .. the games against us at the Valley and the loss to Pompey @ Wembley are cases in point .. the pressure of their huge fan base and massive home crowds could be counter productive .. if they lost McGeady they would be in trouble

    BUT when all's said .. they are in an auto promotion slot !! .. oh that we all should be so worried
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,268
    edited April 2019
    bobmunro said:
    We are talking about the games we lost that might cost us - what about the games we've won where, to be honest, we didn't deserve to? A 46 games season levels out the good and bad luck. If we get an automatic, we deserve it - if we finish in the play-offs then, over a 46 game season we deserve it.
    Spot on Bob,
    The pleasing aspect of the grinding victory at Wycombe is we go into the Luton game on a high, despite our chances of finishing above Sunderland( 4 points, extra game and a better goal average)very slim. 

    Sunderland's worry will be they have drawn 17 matches, and they need to finish above Barnsley and Portsmouth, ( as well as the form team CAFC)

    Luton can free wheel to the title, maybe losing 1 or 2 more matches starting on Saturday.

    The Taylor Red card, getting Igor back to fitness and Grants departure have all contributed to Cafc playing catch up when we stopped winning for those vital games.

    Bowyer gambled at Wycombe which @bobmunro will appreciate. It came off which leaves a couple of flair players fit for Luton.

    In Bowyer and JJ we trust.


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,460
    bobmunro said:
    We are talking about the games we lost that might cost us - what about the games we've won where, to be honest, we didn't deserve to? A 46 games season levels out the good and bad luck. If we get an automatic, we deserve it - if we finish in the play-offs then, over a 46 game season we deserve it.
    Burton will feel very aggrieved to get zero points from us for a start!
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,460
    I think Sunderland will be very worried, and not just from us. Pompey 3 points behind them and in better form. Their game could be crucial
  • addick05
    addick05 Posts: 2,348

    If we get auto promotion never mind Manager of the Month, Bow should get manager of the bloody season!

    With of course, great assistance from JJ.

  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,517
    Weegie Addick said:
    While we play tge "what if" game, what if Phillips had been ever-present in goal?

    Last night I couldn't help but think that we are all worried about Aribo and others leaving but Phillips has developed into an amazing keeper, through playing regularly this season.

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  • robroy
    robroy Posts: 4,474
    Luton is the tough one. 

    I think losing Grant and having Taylor suspended has cost us, that being said it does even itself out over the season. 

    I think 2nd is sadly a little out of reach. We need to keep on cracking away, if we are in the playoffs's I hope we keep our head. 
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,186
    bobmunro said:
    We are talking about the games we lost that might cost us - what about the games we've won where, to be honest, we didn't deserve to? A 46 games season levels out the good and bad luck. If we get an automatic, we deserve it - if we finish in the play-offs then, over a 46 game season we deserve it.

    Spot on. As the great Lennie Lawrence used to say, there are no false positions after 42 games (or 46, in our case).
  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    If we win our remaining games and Mackems lose two, GD will be a maximum of five.  All we need is one or two games where we thrash sides and we are in business.
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,641
    edited April 2019
    The Red Robin said:
    That opening day defeat will cost us the autos 
    Coventry at Home Peterborough at Home!
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,641
    bobmunro said:
    We are talking about the games we lost that might cost us - what about the games we've won where, to be honest, we didn't deserve to? A 46 games season levels out the good and bad luck. If we get an automatic, we deserve it - if we finish in the play-offs then, over a 46 game season we deserve it.
    They don't count! Simples :-)
  • Tunwellsaddick
    Tunwellsaddick Posts: 2,462
    "We do better against the better teams". Therefore I think we will beat Luton on Saturday.

    But, I think we might lose to Oxford (because it's Robinson) and I think The Gills might snatch a point ( because they can be a Bogey Team for us).

    Of course, I would love to see us get to second and gain automatic promotion but, if not, I am confident we will win the playoffs. 
  • charlton_hero
    charlton_hero Posts: 4,691
    We have more than enough about us to beat Luton on Saturday. All we can do is keep winning, the pressure is on Sunderland.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 70,460
    edited April 2019
    harveys_gardener said:
    If we win our remaining games and Mackems lose two, GD will be a maximum of five.  All we need is one or two games where we thrash sides and we are in business.
    I can't see them losing 2 games. I can see them drawing games though, so their GD won't get worse

    We won't thrash teams either so I suspect our GD will be worse than the teams currently above us
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 12,101
    killerandflash said:
    bobmunro said:
    We are talking about the games we lost that might cost us - what about the games we've won where, to be honest, we didn't deserve to? A 46 games season levels out the good and bad luck. If we get an automatic, we deserve it - if we finish in the play-offs then, over a 46 game season we deserve it.
    Burton will feel very aggrieved to get zero points from us for a start!
    Bugger 'em, not our problem.

    They can take out their frustrations on Pompey, Luton, and Posh in their remaining fixtures.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376
    you can get 50/1 us finishing top 2 ...
    can't see it happening at all

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  • paulbaconsarnie
    paulbaconsarnie Posts: 9,436
    We will win Saturday and that will start Luton’s capitulation as I backed them at 14/1 for the league in my lucky 15 at the start of the season.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,318
    LargeAddick said:
    BR3red said:
    Portsmouth have a bigger chance than us. 2nd in form league behind us.

    Sunderland GD may settle it though.

    Exiting times though as everyone may bottle it ....

    Win Saturday and they will all bottle it a bit more...
    Will come down to final day and Sunderland v Portsmouth in my opinion. I fancy Portsmouth to do it.
    it's not the last day of the season. it's the week before. They both also play midweek so hAVE 2 games left after they play each other 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,967
    bobmunro said:
    We are talking about the games we lost that might cost us - what about the games we've won where, to be honest, we didn't deserve to? A 46 games season levels out the good and bad luck. If we get an automatic, we deserve it - if we finish in the play-offs then, over a 46 game season we deserve it.

    the voice of reason, well said that man
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,323
    We have simply been to inconsistent won games when we shouldn’t, and lost games when we should of won, I agree regarding grant as think we would of had a decent chance. 
  • SamB09
    SamB09 Posts: 901
    oohaahmortimer said:
    you can get 50/1 us finishing top 2 ...
    can't see it happening at all

    Where? 
    Saw sky bet doing 33/1
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Paddy Power had us at 60/1 at the weekend, now 40/1 and 7/2 to get promoted.
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,376

  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,248
    oohaahmortimer said:

    Can't see it happening but 40/1 is too good to ignore. 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,156
    stonemuse said:
    oohaahmortimer said:

    Can't see it happening but 40/1 is too good to ignore. 
    50/1 is even better ;)
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,248
    Stu_of_Kunming said:
    stonemuse said:
    oohaahmortimer said:

    Can't see it happening but 40/1 is too good to ignore. 
    50/1 is even better ;)
    always had account with PP so keeping it that way

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