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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

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  • CheshireAddick
    CheshireAddick Posts: 1,305
    Henry Irving said:
    ASked about the Bowyer situation @razil said that LB hadn't been backed at all and cited the lack of money to replace Grant.  The Maidstone apoligist said that Bowyer wants to sign a contract and it was pointed out by Steve Clarke from CAST that he hasn't signed a contract and a lot of players will be reluctant to sign when it is unclear who the manager is.

    Asked why Bowyer had been given a contract he didn't understand and that wasn't "normal" LDT said they were trying to be "creative" and reward Bowyer for his work.   He was asked why this wasn't discussed with Bowyer before he was sent the contract (as Bowyer stated) and LDT said it had been. It was pointed out that this hadn't been what Bowyer said but LDT said it had.   Have now moved on and trying to agree a deal.
    Thanks HL  - did you throw a few 'fucks' at him ;-) 
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,128
    Typical @Henry Irving /CL clique member, dodged the most important questions;
    Whose shit was the brownest?
    Whose was hardest to scrub from the walls?
  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
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  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,483
    Covered End said:
    Did you bang your fists on the table ? :wink:

    PS, RD & KM are incompetent, but is LDT ?
    Considering it's not even his job and he is having to do what he's told.
    Sounds like he came pretty close. :)
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,740
    Great stuff, Henners & thanks for the swift update. 

    Wonder whether LDT rang his lord and master moaning " That's another fine mess you've got me into ! "

    Can ANYONE see this ending well, and before the start of next season ? 

    It's not you that's in a fine mess, LDT, it's OUR club. 

    ( BTW, Henry. Ignore any sarcastic remarks made earlier about your sartorial elegance...It's simply envy )

  • harveys_gardener
    harveys_gardener Posts: 7,038
    Alwaysneil said:
    Plenty of incompetents:
    1) Duchâtelet 
    2) Meire
    3) Keohane
    4) Duchâtelet 
    5) Meire
    6) Driesen
    7) Fraeye
    8) Duchâtelet 
    9) Meire

    Not sure that I’d have LDT in the top 20
    Neil, you have missed playing staff presumably because you don't want to crash the server?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,785
    Well that was great for another few pages just as this thread was going stale. Top work Mr. Irving.
  • dajavouslagan
    dajavouslagan Posts: 724
    edited April 2019
    Thanks Henry,  good stuff.  IMO the only chance we have is if we get promoted! 🤞
  • NornIrishAddick
    NornIrishAddick Posts: 9,623
    happyvalley said:
    1607, a possible tsunami causes a massive flood wave in The Bristol Channel, killing 2000 people.
    So much for my subtle hint... 

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  • nth_london_addick
    nth_london_addick Posts: 35,919
    It’s all bollox everything he said about all the fictional in their own made up mind potential investors 

    the table is empty of bids interest and buyers 


  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Airman Brown said:
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    @Airman Brown

    Have you any corroboration or anything else to say on tonight’s information ?
    I wouldn’t put any weight on any of what he says.
    Oi!


    Oh, you mean LDT
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Ultimatum said:
    I take it the next FF will be the 1st July when the club hasn’t sold on/by 30th June? 
    Next FF meeting 5 June.

    Will the play-off trophy be there?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    ShootersHillGuru said:
    @Airman Brown

    Have you any corroboration or anything else to say on tonight’s information ?
    Is my word not good enough for some people?

    : - )
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    edited April 2019
    On reflection, and I should perhaps have pushed this more last night the issue is "agreed price"

    LDT said the 5th International group had agreed a price but hadn't completed DD.

    So that can only be an initial, indicative price as they haven't been through the books. They will make a lower offer after DD.

    But RD takes that initial price as final and won't move from it.

    I believe it is the same with the other two groups.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,231
    5th Group - The international group  An offer has been recieved and a price agreed.  They are in the final stages of due diligence.

    Two years ago that might have sounded interesting, but now...
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,683
    The only person who has agreed a price is Roland. 
    He has agreed a price with himself which he thinks is fair. 
    As for any potential buyers I do not believe a price has been agreed. 
    Had it been then a takeover would have happened by now.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,079
    blackpool72 said:
    The only person who has agreed a price is Roland. 
    He has agreed a price with himself which he thinks is fair. 
    As for any potential buyers I do not believe a price has been agreed. 
    Had it been then a takeover would have happened by now.
    He wants to retain some sort of ownership of Sparrows Lane and/or The Valley.
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    SoundAsa£ said:
    Airman Brown said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    On the recent accounts LDT tried to defend the losses as they were coming down.

    He was challenged on this as the losses were still very high and was told by me that they were result of incompetence over the past five years/

    LDT said that it was unfair to say that the staff were incompetent.  I replied that I wasn't speaking about the staff but about the leadership.

    LDT the senior staff at the club aren't incompetent.  I clarified that he, Meire and Duchatelet had run the club very badly and were all incompetent.

    The losses of the club were structural but due to the incompetence of this three.  LDT wasn't happy but didn't respond.

    I pointed out that the last accounts showed turnover dropping to £7.3m from £7.6m  LDT said T/O was at £7.6m this year and would go higher with the play-offs.
    Why is LDT judged as incompetent. As far as I can see he is only doing Roland’s bidding as an employee. Wasn’t aware he was behind any strategic  decisions.  
    He is signing off decisions made by the management, such as it is, and imposing budget cuts in a business he doesn’t understand. He is literally not competent to do that job - sure he’s a pleasant bloke and all that, but in the end he’s just taking RD’s money like Meire before him, because he can. 
    Actually, there’s not that much left to understand!
    He is I think a paid employee working for an autocrat. Incompetent is a tad harsh as I am not aware he has personally instigated any great strategic or significant practices that are at odds with what we expect at our or any  football club.

    Most of us need to work for a living and can’t always take a principled stance that we might wish to.  

    RD remains the issue no one else. 
  • Raith_C_Chattonell
    Raith_C_Chattonell Posts: 5,684
    I think I stumbled upon LDT's FF crib sheet on the train. 

    The way it must work is you first select a group from the left hand column and then apply one of the factors from each of the other columns.  At first glance it may seem over simplified, but it has generated many meetings, much discussion and most importantly kept him in a job.


    Groups

    Price Agreed

    FF Meetings

    DD Complete?

    EFL Check

    Aussie

    Yes

    TBA

    Yes

    Yes

    British

    No

    TBA

    No

    No

    International

    Maybe

    TBA

    Maybe

    Maybe

    Mystery X

    Who Cares

    TBA

    Who Cares?

    Who Cares?

    Mystery Y

    Kinda

    TBA

    Yes and No

    Yes and No

    Reserved

    Not for the land

    TBA

    Possibly

    Don’t know

    Reserved

    Doesn’t matter

    TBA

    Taking time

    Complex







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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Thanks @Henry Irving 


  • cafcwill
    cafcwill Posts: 1,287
    :-(
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,384
    happyvalley said:
    1609, an early version of Three Blind Mice is published in London.

    Three incompetent rats, three incompetent rats,
    See how they run (the club), see how they run (the club),
    Katie ran off to Sheffield Wednesday,
    Lievy lies at fans forums on a Wednesday,
    Did you ever see Roly’s asking price?
    Three incompetent rats 🐀
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,733
    What do we know?

    1) We know there is genuine interest in buying the club
    2) Duchatelet wants far too much money for it

    Not sure how anything can change unless the second thing we know changes significantly. Not sure how we can judge potential buyers or criticise them in any way because of their reluctance to pay a ridiculous price.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    Was anything mentioned about the £30m bid from a 'former banker'?
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    Addickted said:
    Was anything mentioned about the £30m bid from a 'former banker'?
    No
  • valleynick66
    valleynick66 Posts: 4,891
    Henry Irving said:
    valleynick66 said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    Airman Brown said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    On the recent accounts LDT tried to defend the losses as they were coming down.

    He was challenged on this as the losses were still very high and was told by me that they were result of incompetence over the past five years/

    LDT said that it was unfair to say that the staff were incompetent.  I replied that I wasn't speaking about the staff but about the leadership.

    LDT the senior staff at the club aren't incompetent.  I clarified that he, Meire and Duchatelet had run the club very badly and were all incompetent.

    The losses of the club were structural but due to the incompetence of this three.  LDT wasn't happy but didn't respond.

    I pointed out that the last accounts showed turnover dropping to £7.3m from £7.6m  LDT said T/O was at £7.6m this year and would go higher with the play-offs.
    Why is LDT judged as incompetent. As far as I can see he is only doing Roland’s bidding as an employee. Wasn’t aware he was behind any strategic  decisions.  
    He is signing off decisions made by the management, such as it is, and imposing budget cuts in a business he doesn’t understand. He is literally not competent to do that job - sure he’s a pleasant bloke and all that, but in the end he’s just taking RD’s money like Meire before him, because he can. 
    Actually, there’s not that much left to understand!
    He is I think a paid employee working for an autocrat. Incompetent is a tad harsh as I am not aware he has personally instigated any great strategic or significant practices that are at odds with what we expect at our or any  football club.

    Most of us need to work for a living and can’t always take a principled stance that we might wish to.  

    RD remains the issue no one else. 
    The ridiculous and ineffective cost cutting IE youth team breakfasts and water are LDT.

    Suggesting fans clean the stadium and local streets after games to save money. LDT

    Lying and deliberately obstruction bid legimate bonuses.

    Failing in his key task of selling the club. LDT

    Offering a contract to Bowyer that even Murray didn't understand. LDT

    Ultimately, Duchatelet is the problem but LDT is an incompetent part of that problem.

    He is totally unskilled and unsuitable for the role he is in. He is incompetent.

    Still think it’s RD alone. 

    He has been placed in role by RD and probably doing the best he can with his hands likely tied by RD demands.

    Failing to sell the club down to LVT ? I thought we all accepted that was down to RDs asking price. 

    Not sure what you expect in the circumstances of him or anyone asked to fill in this role. It’s a lose lose for anyone surely. 

    As I said most can’t take a principled stand and do what they can to get their job done as far as they are able.

    Only promotion is going to move this position along more quickly it seems to me.
  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,648
    SoundAsa£ said:
    killerandflash said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Rudders22 said:
    Thanks Henry. Appreciate the update. Thanks mate. I would like to ask you one thing pls? What is Irving family having for dinner? 
    Brocalli and califlower quiche with new potatoes and warm pea and tomato salad washed down with some cheap Waitrose white wine
    Vegan food. Waitrose wine

    Typical Bromley
    Don’t forget the Basalmic Vinegar.
    Pisser.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,234
    valleynick66 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    valleynick66 said:
    SoundAsa£ said:
    Airman Brown said:
    valleynick66 said:
    Henry Irving said:
    On the recent accounts LDT tried to defend the losses as they were coming down.

    He was challenged on this as the losses were still very high and was told by me that they were result of incompetence over the past five years/

    LDT said that it was unfair to say that the staff were incompetent.  I replied that I wasn't speaking about the staff but about the leadership.

    LDT the senior staff at the club aren't incompetent.  I clarified that he, Meire and Duchatelet had run the club very badly and were all incompetent.

    The losses of the club were structural but due to the incompetence of this three.  LDT wasn't happy but didn't respond.

    I pointed out that the last accounts showed turnover dropping to £7.3m from £7.6m  LDT said T/O was at £7.6m this year and would go higher with the play-offs.
    Why is LDT judged as incompetent. As far as I can see he is only doing Roland’s bidding as an employee. Wasn’t aware he was behind any strategic  decisions.  
    He is signing off decisions made by the management, such as it is, and imposing budget cuts in a business he doesn’t understand. He is literally not competent to do that job - sure he’s a pleasant bloke and all that, but in the end he’s just taking RD’s money like Meire before him, because he can. 
    Actually, there’s not that much left to understand!
    He is I think a paid employee working for an autocrat. Incompetent is a tad harsh as I am not aware he has personally instigated any great strategic or significant practices that are at odds with what we expect at our or any  football club.

    Most of us need to work for a living and can’t always take a principled stance that we might wish to.  

    RD remains the issue no one else. 
    The ridiculous and ineffective cost cutting IE youth team breakfasts and water are LDT.

    Suggesting fans clean the stadium and local streets after games to save money. LDT

    Lying and deliberately obstruction bid legimate bonuses.

    Failing in his key task of selling the club. LDT

    Offering a contract to Bowyer that even Murray didn't understand. LDT

    Ultimately, Duchatelet is the problem but LDT is an incompetent part of that problem.

    He is totally unskilled and unsuitable for the role he is in. He is incompetent.

    Still think it’s RD alone. 

    He has been placed in role by RD and probably doing the best he can with his hands likely tied by RD demands.

    Failing to sell the club down to LVT ? I thought we all accepted that was down to RDs asking price. 

    Not sure what you expect in the circumstances of him or anyone asked to fill in this role. It’s a lose lose for anyone surely. 

    As I said most can’t take a principled stand and do what they can to get their job done as far as they are able.

    Only promotion is going to move this position along more quickly it seems to me.
    Yet that won't change the already agreed prices according to LDT.

    Sure, it makes the club more attractive but enough to make someone pay £65m?

    And I don't think "he's only doing what he's told" is an excuse.

    As the senior person on the ground he has responsibility and so has to take some of the blame.
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