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Doncaster v Charlton | Sun 12 May | 12:15pm | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views

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  • DyerConsequences
    DyerConsequences Posts: 2,659
    This is starting to feel like another operation and we all know how well they go.

    My head says it's all going to go horribly wrong. But my heart is still in charge right now.

    3-1 Charlton (Taylor pen, Aribo, Bauer)
  • Johnnysummers5
    Johnnysummers5 Posts: 8,469

    Keep up the good work in the championship for us next season FA.

    2-0 Charlton

  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,078

    Unlike the Sky Bet Championship, the League One play-offs do not historically favour those who finish as the 'top seed' in 3rd.

    Using the same criteria (the 14 seasons of the current division structure), the 3rd-placed team have only been promoted on four occasions.

    The best position to finish in seems to be fourth, which will be good news for Portsmouth supporters. The fourth-placed team have gone up five times, most recently being Rotherham in the 2017/18 season.

    Bad news for Sunderland, the play-offs don't favour those who finish fifth. Only two teams who have ended in that position have been promoted to the Championship, and those teams were Sheffield Wednesday in 2005 and Barnsley in 2006.

    Doncaster are the outsiders but recent history has shown how those who end in sixth can finish as the winners. Millwall (2017) and Barnsley (2016) are two teams who have finished the lowest of the four sides but earned their spot in the Championship.

    They also join Scunthorpe in 2009 as being the sixth-placed teams who would end up promoted.


    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5cd44192293f5/sporting-lifes-efl-play-off-preview

  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,407
    2015 (Preston) were the last team to be promoted from third
  • 0-1Charlton.

    A scrappy win which will put us in a healthy position for the second leg. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,221
    As I’ve said many a time, Bowyer teams turn up on the occasion.  Don’t fear the big support or the TV cameras.

    0-2 Cullen and Taylor
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    An easy 3-0 win
    Championship here we come 
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,446
    ross1 said:

    Unlike the Sky Bet Championship, the League One play-offs do not historically favour those who finish as the 'top seed' in 3rd.

    Using the same criteria (the 14 seasons of the current division structure), the 3rd-placed team have only been promoted on four occasions.

    The best position to finish in seems to be fourth, which will be good news for Portsmouth supporters. The fourth-placed team have gone up five times, most recently being Rotherham in the 2017/18 season.

    Bad news for Sunderland, the play-offs don't favour those who finish fifth. Only two teams who have ended in that position have been promoted to the Championship, and those teams were Sheffield Wednesday in 2005 and Barnsley in 2006.

    Doncaster are the outsiders but recent history has shown how those who end in sixth can finish as the winners. Millwall (2017) and Barnsley (2016) are two teams who have finished the lowest of the four sides but earned their spot in the Championship.

    They also join Scunthorpe in 2009 as being the sixth-placed teams who would end up promoted.


    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5cd44192293f5/sporting-lifes-efl-play-off-preview


    Cheers Ross but history means nothing, its a one off and all about here and now. We are the team on form and to beat IMO up the addicks!
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,228
    No away goals rule, right?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 95,407
    Uboat said:
    No away goals rule, right?
    Nope

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  • James86
    James86 Posts: 330
    1-1. Doncaster to score first. Why do I think it’s going to go horribly wrong though? I’m already nervous at the thought of Sunday. Buckle up!
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,336
    I can’t even think about Sunday’s game without getting nervous.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,792
    Redrobo said:
    I can’t even think about Sunday’s game without getting nervous.
    Doncasters firm ain't that hard I'm sure you will be ok.
  • JoshAddick
    JoshAddick Posts: 1,787
    No one’s called it Operation Keepmoat so... 2-1 us
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,042
    Nice convincing win 3-1.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,231
    Great preview again FA, always spot on. I think they will coming flying out of the traps for the first 20mins. But over the 90 mins i think we can nick a win  0-1. As always the travelling support we be vital to spur the boys on. I got my ticket, train is booked! I CAN HARDLY WAIT!     Sunderland at Wembley!   COYRS!!!!
  • Blackheathen
    Blackheathen Posts: 6,673
    Thanks as always FA.  Much appreciated.

    You mention the Ipswich game and by coincidence I was reading about it last night in Matthew Eastley’s “Charlton Athletic On This Day”

    Wednesday, 13 May 1998

    On a memorable night at a highly-charged Valley, Charlton beat Ipswich Town 1-0 in the second leg of the play-off semi final to clinch a place against Sunderland at Wembley.  On 36 minutes, Shaun Newton skipped past a couple of Town defenders and then let rip with an unstoppable shot from the edge of the box which whistled past Richard Wright.  Boss Alan Curbishley said: “This is the culmination of ten years of concerted effort”.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,500
    Forgot to do this on Saturday, but @ForeverAddickted , thank you so much for your match previews. They're always a highlight of me week. And just in general, I love all your footy contributions.
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,500
    1-1. 

    The thing that has me most confident this year is our home form - even if we lose on Sunday we'll still have a second home leg, an evening in front of a packed Valley crowd
    This is kind of my thinking as well. The Valley is going to be rocking on Friday. 

    Something I feel has gotten overlooked is how much more balanced we look with Dijksteel as an attacking fullback on the right. His crossing isn't the best, but he's good technically and provides width there which stretches defenses. It has been part of what makes our entire attack look more balanced.

    I suspect Bowyer will be very tempted to play Aribo as a 10/attacker. It could mean going 4-2-3-1/4-3-2-1, or bringing someone into the side on the left of the diamond. I just hope it's not Pratley and Bowyer doesn't try to shut up shop. We've been dominating possession and games of late. Go at them. 
  • AddicksAddict
    AddicksAddict Posts: 15,892
    Comfortable away win 4-0.
    If you'd have said anything else, it would have been a portent of doom.

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  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,595
    ross1 said:

    Unlike the Sky Bet Championship, the League One play-offs do not historically favour those who finish as the 'top seed' in 3rd.

    Using the same criteria (the 14 seasons of the current division structure), the 3rd-placed team have only been promoted on four occasions.

    The best position to finish in seems to be fourth, which will be good news for Portsmouth supporters. The fourth-placed team have gone up five times, most recently being Rotherham in the 2017/18 season.

    Bad news for Sunderland, the play-offs don't favour those who finish fifth. Only two teams who have ended in that position have been promoted to the Championship, and those teams were Sheffield Wednesday in 2005 and Barnsley in 2006.

    Doncaster are the outsiders but recent history has shown how those who end in sixth can finish as the winners. Millwall (2017) and Barnsley (2016) are two teams who have finished the lowest of the four sides but earned their spot in the Championship.

    They also join Scunthorpe in 2009 as being the sixth-placed teams who would end up promoted.


    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5cd44192293f5/sporting-lifes-efl-play-off-preview

    3rd = 4 wins
    4th = 5 wins
    5th = 2 wins
    6th = 3 wins

    Claiming there is anything in that would be ridiculous. Be interested to see how form going in relates to who ends up going up but it is all down to a 3 game mini-tournament.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    ross1 said:

    Unlike the Sky Bet Championship, the League One play-offs do not historically favour those who finish as the 'top seed' in 3rd.

    Using the same criteria (the 14 seasons of the current division structure), the 3rd-placed team have only been promoted on four occasions.

    The best position to finish in seems to be fourth, which will be good news for Portsmouth supporters. The fourth-placed team have gone up five times, most recently being Rotherham in the 2017/18 season.

    Bad news for Sunderland, the play-offs don't favour those who finish fifth. Only two teams who have ended in that position have been promoted to the Championship, and those teams were Sheffield Wednesday in 2005 and Barnsley in 2006.

    Doncaster are the outsiders but recent history has shown how those who end in sixth can finish as the winners. Millwall (2017) and Barnsley (2016) are two teams who have finished the lowest of the four sides but earned their spot in the Championship.

    They also join Scunthorpe in 2009 as being the sixth-placed teams who would end up promoted.


    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5cd44192293f5/sporting-lifes-efl-play-off-preview

    So the 3rd placed team has won 4 times, the 6th 3 times.
  • TEL
    TEL Posts: 10,100
    Hard to call, just happy I’m going to be at both games.
  • Aethelstan
    Aethelstan Posts: 542


    So the 3rd placed team has won 4 times, the 6th 3 times.
    But how many of those times has the third-placed team had a 15 points, and 15 goals, advantage over the sixth-placed team? 
  • Bangkokaddick
    Bangkokaddick Posts: 4,315
    edited May 2019
    I'm getting nervous just reading the thread and I'll be over 6000 miles away! Hopefully I will pick up the Sky coverage without too much buffering through my Android box.
  • LennyLowrent
    LennyLowrent Posts: 2,709
    edited May 2019
    We need to win the first game.
    If we find ourselves going to the home leg needing a win, I've got a feeling they will be able to frustrate us in front of expectant agitated home crowd.
    Watching the away game from Israel during independence day BBQ, I will be doing my best to muster a good turn out of bewildered kibbutznicks  around my Tablet .
    Perhaps by talking up the exotic appeal of both clubs as well as the 1947 connection, namely: The last great achievement of both this peaceful neutral country and CAFC!!! (what's 1 year between colonials...)
     
    Will be flying back to Aus during the home game.
    We've never lost a game when I was high...
    who has..?

    1:0  Addicks

    C.O.Y.R
  • ross1 said:

    Unlike the Sky Bet Championship, the League One play-offs do not historically favour those who finish as the 'top seed' in 3rd.

    Using the same criteria (the 14 seasons of the current division structure), the 3rd-placed team have only been promoted on four occasions.

    The best position to finish in seems to be fourth, which will be good news for Portsmouth supporters. The fourth-placed team have gone up five times, most recently being Rotherham in the 2017/18 season.

    Bad news for Sunderland, the play-offs don't favour those who finish fifth. Only two teams who have ended in that position have been promoted to the Championship, and those teams were Sheffield Wednesday in 2005 and Barnsley in 2006.

    Doncaster are the outsiders but recent history has shown how those who end in sixth can finish as the winners. Millwall (2017) and Barnsley (2016) are two teams who have finished the lowest of the four sides but earned their spot in the Championship.

    They also join Scunthorpe in 2009 as being the sixth-placed teams who would end up promoted.


    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5cd44192293f5/sporting-lifes-efl-play-off-preview

    So the 3rd placed team has won 4 times, the 6th 3 times.
    How many of those 3rd place teams that didn’t get promotion finished the last day of the season just missing out on the automatic spot or were not the form team ?
  • Daggs
    Daggs Posts: 1,344

    Narrow win Sunday (probably 1-0)

    They won't know what hit 'em next Friday...........................

  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,316
    edited May 2019
    Our abandoned game with Doncaster in 13/14 lost them 3 points, they were 3-1 up when it was called off.  They would not have been relegated if they won this game.

    This will be pay back time for them.


  • GlassHalfFull
    GlassHalfFull Posts: 2,351

    These are the last days of post-Premier League Charlton Athletic. Finally. A new phase in our stunning history is about to begin, neatly enough just as we reach The Valley's centenary.

    What the future holds at this moment nobody knows. Addicks can trust the team, the coaches and themselves in the coming days, and all else can temporarily be put to one side. When the football is done, however, and the crowds have gone home, and we await whatever the new season has in store for our wonderful club, its fate lies in the hands of the owners - current and new.

    All we can do is keep the faith, turn up the volume and join the Bowyer crusade!!

    Come On You Addicks!!