The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)

We really do have to wait until July to get a better picture as to where we are on the pitch. Worth remembering that the Powell 2011/12 side was a major rebuild, and the first players didn't arrive until the 1st June, with most arriving at the end of June/early July.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Charlton_Athletic_F.C._season

killerandflash said:

We really do have to wait until July to get a better picture as to where we are on the pitch. Worth remembering that the Powell 2011/12 side was a major rebuild, and the first players didn't arrive until the 1st June, with most arriving at the end of June/early July.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Charlton_Athletic_F.C._season

2012/13 is a better comparison. In any event, most 2011/12 players were lined up from March onwards.

killerandflash said:

We really do have to wait until July to get a better picture as to where we are on the pitch. Worth remembering that the Powell 2011/12 side was a major rebuild, and the first players didn't arrive until the 1st June, with most arriving at the end of June/early July.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011%E2%80%9312_Charlton_Athletic_F.C._season

That was a League One rebuild with the Jenkinson money.

If RD is still holding out for £65m on the sale  of real estate, then we have an impasse. Remember that he is a business man with profit is king thinking. The difference between how much the club cost him and £65m ((less expenditure) means that he can hold out. Plus a few more quid for Aribo will mean longer. 

With have a serious situation here as it’s more than likely to continue under his ownership for sometime. Such a shame. 

Uboat said:

happyvalley said:

1642, Isaac Newton born.

Come on, mate. Quite a big year. 

Last Uboat taken out of service?

Airman Brown said:

Covered End said:

superclive98 said:

Covered End said:

superclive98 said:

Covered End said:

So only support your team at Wembley?
It didn't take long, it really didn't.
So disappointing. 

I think that you need to start looking at the bigger picture. 

We all know the bigger picture.
But some of us support the team home & away, whilst some of us turn up occasionally for a big game.
We all know & want a better owner.
Have another listen to what Lee Bowyer said about the importance of the fans.

So when Bowyer and over half of the current squad walk away on 30 June because the idiotic owner fails to offer them adequate contracts and then brings in inferior replacements from football's equivalent of Poundland, you'll feel the same will you? 

Bowyer should obviously have been signed up, we all know it's ridiculous. So should Aribo & Fosu at the start of last season.

However, it is a lie to say that half the squad are leaving because the idiotic owner has failed to offer them an adequate contract.

We have offered contracts to who we want to keep. Please read what Bowyer said.

The reason for not offering the others contracts, is because Lee Bowyer doesn't want to keep them & I agree with him.

We shall be looking to get in better players, not inferior players.

We all know they are likely to be the best players from L1 who are out if contract like Lyle Taylor was.

We all know it's far from ideal & we all want a better owner than the bonkers Belgian, but please don't tell lies to influence others. 

I don’t think Bowyer will be leaving but Superclive’s comment cannot be a lie because it’s a prediction not a statement of fact - see also Boris Johnson’s lies v unfulfilled predictions on the remain side in 2016. One was established fact, the other was opinion.

The strong likelihood if RD remains in charge is that he will wreck the situation again. I’m reluctant to expand on this too much in the aftermath of last weekend, which everyone enjoyed, but the flaws in his approach are obvious and won’t be offset by cheering louder or pretending they don’t exist. The difference in L1 is that two thirds of the clubs can’t compete with us.

”Support the team” on its own is not enough. Indeed it’s likely to lead to another wave of even deeper hopelessness driving more people away permanently. It needs to be coupled with causing Duchatelet as much embarrassment and inconvenience as possible. 

So the current squad is Phillips, Page, Bauer, Pearce, Marshall, Taylor, Parker, Reeves, Fosu, Vetokele, JFC, Pratley, Aribo, Morgan, Solly, Williams, Sarr, Lapslie, Dijksteel.

Bauer, Marshall, Parker, Reeves, Fosu, Vetokele, JFC, Aribo, and Williams are out of contract.

I think the vast majority would agree we would love to keep Bauer and Aribo and probably JFC.

I very much doubt the vast majority of fans would like to keep the rest to play in The Championship, if you take into account Bowyer deemed them not good enough and or not fit enough for L1. (Williams apart but wages are his issue).

So It's not true to say that half the squad are leaving because the idiotic owner has failed to offer them adequate contracts.

It may be true of Bauer, JFC and Aribo. But 3 out of 19 is not half the squad no matter what anyone pretends.

We know Fosu has been offered a contract so we can get a fee for him.

If anyone thinks I'm wrong then please list the 7 other players that Bowyer wants to keep, but can't because the idiotic owner has failed to offer them adequate contracts.

Before anyone does I recommend you read what Bowyer said.

Finally, we all know RD is an idiotic owner, that is not in dispute and I don't think we will have a strong squad next season.
I'm simply saying that what superclive98 said cannot possibly be true. An exaggeration.

Apologies for side tracking the sale thread, but I can't be having people saying things that cannot become true, as it's a factual impossibility, unless Bowyer was lying and wanted to keep all the released players.
Personally, I don't think he did.

Brilliant stuff, great feeling, really great felling being promoted but the problems just don't go away    

Covered End said:

Airman Brown said:

Covered End said:

superclive98 said:

Covered End said:

superclive98 said:

Covered End said:

So only support your team at Wembley?
It didn't take long, it really didn't.
So disappointing. 

I think that you need to start looking at the bigger picture. 

We all know the bigger picture.
But some of us support the team home & away, whilst some of us turn up occasionally for a big game.
We all know & want a better owner.
Have another listen to what Lee Bowyer said about the importance of the fans.

So when Bowyer and over half of the current squad walk away on 30 June because the idiotic owner fails to offer them adequate contracts and then brings in inferior replacements from football's equivalent of Poundland, you'll feel the same will you? 

Bowyer should obviously have been signed up, we all know it's ridiculous. So should Aribo & Fosu at the start of last season.

However, it is a lie to say that half the squad are leaving because the idiotic owner has failed to offer them an adequate contract.

We have offered contracts to who we want to keep. Please read what Bowyer said.

The reason for not offering the others contracts, is because Lee Bowyer doesn't want to keep them & I agree with him.

We shall be looking to get in better players, not inferior players.

We all know they are likely to be the best players from L1 who are out if contract like Lyle Taylor was.

We all know it's far from ideal & we all want a better owner than the bonkers Belgian, but please don't tell lies to influence others. 

I don’t think Bowyer will be leaving but Superclive’s comment cannot be a lie because it’s a prediction not a statement of fact - see also Boris Johnson’s lies v unfulfilled predictions on the remain side in 2016. One was established fact, the other was opinion.

The strong likelihood if RD remains in charge is that he will wreck the situation again. I’m reluctant to expand on this too much in the aftermath of last weekend, which everyone enjoyed, but the flaws in his approach are obvious and won’t be offset by cheering louder or pretending they don’t exist. The difference in L1 is that two thirds of the clubs can’t compete with us.

”Support the team” on its own is not enough. Indeed it’s likely to lead to another wave of even deeper hopelessness driving more people away permanently. It needs to be coupled with causing Duchatelet as much embarrassment and inconvenience as possible. 

So the current squad is Phillips, Page, Bauer, Pearce, Marshall, Taylor, Parker, Reeves, Fosu, Vetokele, JFC, Pratley, Aribo, Morgan, Solly, Williams, Sarr, Lapslie, Dijksteel.

Bauer, Marshall, Parker, Reeves, Fosu, Vetokele, JFC, Aribo, and Williams are out of contract.

I think the vast majority would agree we would love to keep Bauer and Aribo and probably JFC.

I very much doubt the vast majority of fans would like to keep the rest to play in The Championship, if you take into account Bowyer deemed them not good enough and or not fit enough for L1. (Williams apart but wages are his issue).

So It's not true to say that half the squad are leaving because the idiotic owner has failed to offer them adequate contracts.

It may be true of Bauer, JFC and Aribo. But 3 out of 19 is not half the squad no matter what anyone pretends.

We know Fosu has been offered a contract so we can get a fee for him.

If anyone thinks I'm wrong then please list the 7 other players that Bowyer wants to keep, but can't because the idiotic owner has failed to offer them adequate contracts.

Before anyone does I recommend you read what Bowyer said.

Finally, we all know RD is an idiotic owner, that is not in dispute and I don't think we will have a strong squad next season.
I'm simply saying that what superclive98 said cannot possibly be true. An exaggeration.

Apologies for side tracking the sale thread, but I can't be having people saying things that cannot become true, as it's a factual impossibility, unless Bowyer was lying and wanted to keep all the released players.
Personally, I don't think he did.

I still don't know what your 'It didn't take long. It really didn't' point means. You repeatedly say that RD is a bad owner, so what are you talking about?

We would get a decent fee for Aribo, basically we can say how much we think his worth if the buying club don't agree then it goes to a third party to come up with the fee.  They look at multiple things but the most important is how much money the buying club are offering the player in wages.  If they are offering Aribo a big contract then its obvious he isn't worth a few 100k.  Will def be looking at a few million easy. 

luke1 said:

We would get a decent fee for Aribo, basically we can say how much we think his worth if the buying club don't agree then it goes to a third party to come up with the fee.  They look at multiple things but the most important is how much money the buying club are offering the player in wages.  If they are offering Aribo a big contract then its obvious he isn't worth a few 100k.  Will def be looking at a few million easy. 

No way are we going to get 'a few million' for a player who only joined us at 19 and who's played his entire career in league one. Although i'm not sure what other precedents there are to judge what kind of compensation fee is likely, i'd expect it to be a few hundred thousand rather than a few million though.

Uboat said:

Covered End said:

Airman Brown said:

Covered End said:

superclive98 said:

Covered End said:

superclive98 said:

Covered End said:

So only support your team at Wembley?
It didn't take long, it really didn't.
So disappointing. 

I think that you need to start looking at the bigger picture. 

We all know the bigger picture.
But some of us support the team home & away, whilst some of us turn up occasionally for a big game.
We all know & want a better owner.
Have another listen to what Lee Bowyer said about the importance of the fans.

So when Bowyer and over half of the current squad walk away on 30 June because the idiotic owner fails to offer them adequate contracts and then brings in inferior replacements from football's equivalent of Poundland, you'll feel the same will you? 

Bowyer should obviously have been signed up, we all know it's ridiculous. So should Aribo & Fosu at the start of last season.

However, it is a lie to say that half the squad are leaving because the idiotic owner has failed to offer them an adequate contract.

We have offered contracts to who we want to keep. Please read what Bowyer said.

The reason for not offering the others contracts, is because Lee Bowyer doesn't want to keep them & I agree with him.

We shall be looking to get in better players, not inferior players.

We all know they are likely to be the best players from L1 who are out if contract like Lyle Taylor was.

We all know it's far from ideal & we all want a better owner than the bonkers Belgian, but please don't tell lies to influence others. 

I don’t think Bowyer will be leaving but Superclive’s comment cannot be a lie because it’s a prediction not a statement of fact - see also Boris Johnson’s lies v unfulfilled predictions on the remain side in 2016. One was established fact, the other was opinion.

The strong likelihood if RD remains in charge is that he will wreck the situation again. I’m reluctant to expand on this too much in the aftermath of last weekend, which everyone enjoyed, but the flaws in his approach are obvious and won’t be offset by cheering louder or pretending they don’t exist. The difference in L1 is that two thirds of the clubs can’t compete with us.

”Support the team” on its own is not enough. Indeed it’s likely to lead to another wave of even deeper hopelessness driving more people away permanently. It needs to be coupled with causing Duchatelet as much embarrassment and inconvenience as possible. 

So the current squad is Phillips, Page, Bauer, Pearce, Marshall, Taylor, Parker, Reeves, Fosu, Vetokele, JFC, Pratley, Aribo, Morgan, Solly, Williams, Sarr, Lapslie, Dijksteel.

Bauer, Marshall, Parker, Reeves, Fosu, Vetokele, JFC, Aribo, and Williams are out of contract.

I think the vast majority would agree we would love to keep Bauer and Aribo and probably JFC.

I very much doubt the vast majority of fans would like to keep the rest to play in The Championship, if you take into account Bowyer deemed them not good enough and or not fit enough for L1. (Williams apart but wages are his issue).

So It's not true to say that half the squad are leaving because the idiotic owner has failed to offer them adequate contracts.

It may be true of Bauer, JFC and Aribo. But 3 out of 19 is not half the squad no matter what anyone pretends.

We know Fosu has been offered a contract so we can get a fee for him.

If anyone thinks I'm wrong then please list the 7 other players that Bowyer wants to keep, but can't because the idiotic owner has failed to offer them adequate contracts.

Before anyone does I recommend you read what Bowyer said.

Finally, we all know RD is an idiotic owner, that is not in dispute and I don't think we will have a strong squad next season.
I'm simply saying that what superclive98 said cannot possibly be true. An exaggeration.

Apologies for side tracking the sale thread, but I can't be having people saying things that cannot become true, as it's a factual impossibility, unless Bowyer was lying and wanted to keep all the released players.
Personally, I don't think he did.

I still don't know what your 'It didn't take long. It really didn't' point means. You repeatedly say that RD is a bad owner, so what are you talking about?

I meant the happy joyous posts turning to doom and gloom.

Usually the two clubs agree (did we find an agreement with West Ham for Diego Poyet a few years back?) so I suspect whatever derisory amount a club offers us for Aribo, Roland will instruct his minion to accept it.

If not and it goes to the committee, there are a lot of factors to take into account including relative contract offers, age of player, how long at developing club, relative position of both clubs, etc.

1643, The Battle of Alton takes place during The Civil War.

Addickted said:

Blimey, the Civil War only started on the last page and we're already having a full scale battle on this page.

No spoilers please.