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Charlton v Birmingham | Sat 14 Sept | 3pm KO | Match Preview, Predictions, News & Views

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  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    I think this could be a Sarr type game as Birmingham have no pace and we are at home. But agree, it would be hard to drop Pearce.
  • smudge7946
    smudge7946 Posts: 4,131
    Aethelstan said:⁸
    Sarr to play to counteract the tall Polish guy up front maybe?
    You mean the English "Polish" guy who was born in England, lived in the UK all his life and only ever played for English clubs (apart from a loan spell at Motherwell)?
      
    Well his nickname is Mr Shean.
  • masicat
    masicat Posts: 5,017
    I think we are in danger of becoming complacent. Birmingham are a good side and will give us a tough game.

    5-0 Charlton. 
  • I see their manager has said we're a physical team. Not sure if he's meant that in the usual context but I really dont get this view some opposition have of us.

    2-1 to us.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,822
    I suspect we will beat them and their fans will decide we are pretty poor. That's how it seems to work.
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,153
    edited September 2019
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  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,248
    Sarr to play to counteract the tall Polish guy up front maybe?
    Jutkiewicz will struggle to get off the ground with Pearce's Heimlich manoeuvres.
  • Afternoon all,
    As I previously stated I cant see Blues getting much, I can only go on previous performances away from home which have been disastrous to say the least. The team selection should give an indication, if Crowley starts we may have a go if not soak it up mentality and an easy win for your boys. https://www.wearebirmingham.co.uk/blues-go-down-to-the-valley-for-charlton-fixture/ kind of agrees with this thinking. 
    Looking forward to the game and day out anyway and hope to be surprised  :lol:
    All the best. :smile:
  • philcafc
    philcafc Posts: 3,928
    Think the brummies will make it tough tomorrow 1-1 draw.

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  • 3-1 to the Addicks, with a Birmingham player sent off for a second yellow for rough tackles on a unplayable Jonny Williams 
  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 0
    edited September 2019
    I see their manager has said we're a physical team. Not sure if he's meant that in the usual context but I really dont get this view some opposition have of us.

    2-1 to us.
    Blimey, did he really?

    Physical - well we do press. But the sterotype is cloggers and long ball. 

    Yeah we are a team of big units that cant play football....

    Josh Cullen
    Johnny Williams
    Tom Lockyer
    Conor Gallagher
    Chris Solly

    We do these managers keep doing our team talks for us? 

    1-1 or 2-1 charlton but we will play them off the park in terms of effective and attractive passing football.

  • First goal will be so crucial as if they get it I think we will huff and puff with no wmd product. Real test of our ability but we are due a defeat. 1-0 Birmingham.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,301
    Seems forever since we last played, especially at home. That warrior win against Brentford was 3 weeks ago but I have really missed being at The Valley and cannot wait to get back tomorrow, celebrating 100 years at our home.

    Birmingham have played a variety of formations this season, 5-4-1, 5-3-2, 4-4-1-1 and most recently 4-4-2. So to try to predict how they're going to be set up tomorrow is difficult. What we do know is that they usually play Jutkiewicz up front on his own or with someone playing just behind him. Even in the 4-4-2 it wasn't such an out and out two up front. He is most certainly their main threat and danger man. The vast majority of their attacks will be through him, direct football, second balls and route one aiming to get the ball out wide and quickly on the counter attack. As Bowyer has already mentioned, they're strong on set-pieces but interestingly, they haven't scored a goal direct from a set piece in the league this season. They have however, conceded 3 goals from defending set-pieces. Birmingham have averaged 37.8% of possession so far this season, whereas we have averaged a slightly better 43.7%. Bowyer was again right, we are going to see far more of the ball, especially being at home. One of Birmingham's weaknesses that I have picked up on is pressing. They're not effective in the high press and winning the ball back so they will often retreat and try to stay compact and organised. However, there is a key flaw that is going to let them down this season - they really struggle when teams turn them round facing their own goal, getting in behind and play with a bit of pace and tempo in areas that can hurt them. For me, they also have a poor goalkeeper in Lee Camp. Personally, I have never thought very much of him and for a Championship goalkeeper I think he makes too many mistakes or gets beaten too easily at his near post. Knowing how things work, he's bound to have a worldy tomorrow.

    With this in mind, I think that tomorrow is a game where we need intelligent players who will allow us to play. Players who are going to be able to turn Birmingham in facing towards their goal, get in behind and find pockets of space in what is likely going to be a congested middle. Sarr and Oztumer should start in a game like this but with Pearce's recent performances and Williams incredible form so far this season, carrying on for Wales as well, Bowyer will find it incredibly difficult in leaving them out. The big question for us also remains whether our own biggest threat and main man is to play, Lyle Taylor. With the injury and knee brace only being precautionary I would personally hope we carry on with looking after him, it is a long season after all. But on the other hand, this is Taylor and we know that he is going to push himself if he feels he can play. With almost a fully fit squad to choose from, we have options and that is a fantastic headache to have. So much so that I would be surprised if too many of us predicted the same team. So let's give it a go.

    Phillips
    Solly Lockyer Sarr Purrington
    Field
    Cullen Gallagher
    Oztumer
    Leko Taylor

    Amos, Pearce, Pratley, Kayal, Williams, Aneke, Hemed

    Charlton Athletic 2-0 Birmingham City
    Taylor
    Oztumer
  • The Addicks win 6-0
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,263
    The Addicks win 6-0
    What happens in the second set ?
  • Now you’re being silly 
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    Wear a peaked cap against the sun.
  • seth plum said:
    Wear a peaked cap against the sun.
    Do you think Soapboxsam has got sunstroke?
  • First game of the season for me... apologies in advance.

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  • ozaddick
    ozaddick Posts: 2,872
    In Dubai for 9 days. Usually watch on the laptop in perth, Don’t think I’ll get to watch the game here, valley pass won’t work on phones unfortunately. 
    We’ve not been at the races after the international break before and I hope we don’t have a hangover from this one. Hope for a win, would take a draw. 1-1. 
  • ozaddick said:
    In Dubai for 9 days. Usually watch on the laptop in perth, Don’t think I’ll get to watch the game here, valley pass won’t work on phones unfortunately. 
    We’ve not been at the races after the international break before and I hope we don’t have a hangover from this one. Hope for a win, would take a draw. 1-1. 
    Valley Pass audio commentary works on phones abroad, ozaddick.
  • .seth plum said:
    Wear a peaked cap against the sun.
    Definitely makes a huge difference standing in the Covered End on a sunny day and beats having to shield your eyes with your hand for 90 minutes just to follow the game. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,719
    ozaddick said:
    In Dubai for 9 days. Usually watch on the laptop in perth, Don’t think I’ll get to watch the game here, valley pass won’t work on phones unfortunately. 
    We’ve not been at the races after the international break before and I hope we don’t have a hangover from this one. Hope for a win, would take a draw. 1-1. 
    I think someone said it does if you use the normal (non-mobile) site in a certain browser, possibly Chrome.
  • Quick question. I've just bought my ticket for today. Usually buy early but couldn't this time so have never used the "print at home" option. Would it work if I just used my phone with the barcode scanner? As I er have no printer. Don't want to have to go early and queue for a paper ticket. 
  • 2-2 nailed on
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,253
    I hope we come out of the blocks like we did against Forest and don’t sit back if we go two up. Hoping for a comfortable win. Oztumer to star. 
  • .seth plum said:
    Wear a peaked cap against the sun.
    Definitely makes a huge difference standing in the Covered End on a sunny day and beats having to shield your eyes with your hand for 90 minutes just to follow the game. 
    Just don't wear a Peaky Blinders style flat cap or you'll be refused entrance to home parts of the ground!
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,778
    I think this could be a Sarr type game as Birmingham have no pace and we are at home. But agree, it would be hard to drop Pearce.
    I think Bowyer has created something so special that whenever one player plays ahead of another now, I never seem to view it anymore as the other one being dropped. I only see it as that the player playing is right for that game and he may not be for the next one.

    I can’t actually remember the last time I felt any Charlton player actually deserved ‘dropping’. What an amazing feeling to have.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    If LT isn't fit enough to start it would be tempting to play both Oztumer and Williams behind Hemed.

    Hemed will play "between the posts" more than Taylor does and trying to pick up both of Williams and Oztumer would be a nightmare.  The problem would be starting 3 players who might have a problem completing 90 minutes.

    Who would have thought Bowyer would have such choices on the 1st of August.