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Diplomatic immunity.

iainment
iainment Posts: 8,104
in Not Sports Related
Talk about a philosophical and political maelstrom.
Given the current tragic situation with the death in a traffic incident how does CL opine?
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  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,515
    7 minutes.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,833
    Abuse of power.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,600
    The phrase always reminds me of Lethal Weapon 2.
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,505
    edited October 2019
    cfgs said:
    The phrase always reminds me of Lethal Weapon 2.
    This! Spoken in a South African accent, spitting on pronouncing the P.

    In fact I said it that way to myself upon seeing the thread title 
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,890
    Has just been revoked......
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,376
    edited October 2019
    Clem_Snide said:
    Has just been revoked......
    Really? Did not see that happening, good news if so.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,220
    Clem_Snide said:
    Has just been revoked......
    If so then great. Does bring into debate the wider issue of the abuse of Diplomatic Immunity. I’m not sure why we need to have Diplomatic Immunity at all but definitely not when it concerns criminal cases.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,376
    LargeAddick said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    Has just been revoked......
    If so then great. Does bring into debate the wider issue of the abuse of Diplomatic Immunity. I’m not sure why we need to have Diplomatic Immunity at all but definitely not when it concerns criminal cases.
    I think it serves a purpose if someone’s status in the country is confidential and revealing their identity could be detrimental.

    This is way over the line, no one should be able to claim diplomatic immunity from prosecution for killing someone. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,220
    Clem_Snide said:
    Has just been revoked......
    Serious question, where have you seen or heard this because I can’t see it reported anywhere.
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,600
    LargeAddick said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    Has just been revoked......
    Serious question, where have you seen or heard this because I can’t see it reported anywhere.
    I think he was quoting Danny Glover at the end of Lethal Weapon 2.

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  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,428
    edited October 2019
    Godsend for Boris. First thing he's got right as PM, and on a day when his integrity as London Mayor has been called into question.
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,367
    Think I’m missing something here, what’s this in relation to? Must have my head in the sand. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 33,220
    cafc_harry said:
    Think I’m missing something here, what’s this in relation to? Must have my head in the sand. 
    Really? Where do you live, the moon?
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    cafc_harry said:
    Think I’m missing something here, what’s this in relation to? Must have my head in the sand. 
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-49961679 
  • cafc_harry
    cafc_harry Posts: 3,367
    cafcdave123 said:
    cafc_harry said:
    Think I’m missing something here, what’s this in relation to? Must have my head in the sand. 
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-northamptonshire-49961679 
    Crikey, just had a read up and can’t see any way that diplomatic immunity should excuse her from it. I imagine it’s main purpose is to protect classified information from other countries if arrested for related crimes. 
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    it's absolute bollox that she has done a runner. if you listen to the lads parents they have said that they could forgive an accident and that they'd never have asked for custodial as she is a mother herself, must be heartbreaking for them 


  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,376
    cafcdave123 said:
    it's absolute bollox that she has done a runner. if you listen to the lads parents they have said that they could forgive an accident and that they'd never have asked for custodial as she is a mother herself, must be heartbreaking for them 


    She told the Bill that she had no plans to leave the country and then did as soon as she could, appalling. 
  • SomervilleAddick
    SomervilleAddick Posts: 3,616
    se9addick said:
    LargeAddick said:
    Clem_Snide said:
    Has just been revoked......
    If so then great. Does bring into debate the wider issue of the abuse of Diplomatic Immunity. I’m not sure why we need to have Diplomatic Immunity at all but definitely not when it concerns criminal cases.
    I think it serves a purpose if someone’s status in the country is confidential and revealing their identity could be detrimental.

    This is way over the line, no one should be able to claim diplomatic immunity from prosecution for killing someone. 
    It’s a bit more than that. It’s to prevent diplomats being charged with made up offences  So China can’t charge diplomats who disagree with them on Hong Kong can’t be repeatedly be arrested for parking illegally, speeding or saying nasty things about Pooh Bear. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,645
    The person involved is disgusting and should face justice.

    But diplomatic immunity is an important principal to stop governments, some of whom are corrupt and oppressive, from arresting foreign diplomats, and their families, on trumped up (no pun intended) charges for political reasons. It's not about secret information.

    Look at what Corbyn's friends in Iran are doing arresting people, like Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe and the Australian couple who aren't protected by diplomatic immunity, for political leverage.

    The US should tell the car driver to get back on a plane now and face the music but diplomatic immunity as a general principle should remain.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 58,407
    LargeAddick said:
    cafc_harry said:
    Think I’m missing something here, what’s this in relation to? Must have my head in the sand. 
    Really? Where do you live, the moon?
    I think more of us live there than you realise. I knew nothing of this

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  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,899
    Football is shit there. No atmosphere in the grounds at all. 
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,893
    The first point to make is this lady is not a murderer. But her negligence has caused the death of a young man. You have to take responsibility for your actions. She should have out of respect for the young man's family and the tragedy she caused fully co-operated with the police and remained in the country. I suspect this will not end well for her and she has been badly advised.  
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,452
    Completely understand why diplomatic immunity exists, but this is a total abuse of it and absolutely should not apply. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 38,300
    AFKABartram said:
    LargeAddick said:
    cafc_harry said:
    Think I’m missing something here, what’s this in relation to? Must have my head in the sand. 
    Really? Where do you live, the moon?
    I think more of us live there than you realise. I knew nothing of this
    Same
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,647
    Trump should stay out of this at all costs.........he is in a no win situation.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    SuedeAdidas said:
    Football is shit there. No atmosphere in the grounds at all. 
    Bailey's penalty would still be going.
  • SoundAsa£
    SoundAsa£ Posts: 22,647
    Addickted said:
    SuedeAdidas said:
    Football is shit there. No atmosphere in the grounds at all. 
    Bailey's penalty would still be going.
    It’s still on its way there!
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,661
    AFKABartram said:
    LargeAddick said:
    cafc_harry said:
    Think I’m missing something here, what’s this in relation to? Must have my head in the sand. 
    Really? Where do you live, the moon?
    I think more of us live there than you realise. I knew nothing of this


    I knew you ate too much cheese ;-)
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,376
    MuttleyCAFC said:
    The first point to make is this lady is not a murderer. But her negligence has caused the death of a young man. You have to take responsibility for your actions. She should have out of respect for the young man's family and the tragedy she caused fully co-operated with the police and remained in the country. I suspect this will not end well for her and she has been badly advised.  
    Surely the point is we don’t know what she is or isn’t as she hasn’t stayed in the country to face justice?
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 11,505
    Now she has been named (or her name has leaked), I can't see how she can even come close to leading a normal life safe from revenge attacks etc. She can't shut herself away forever.

    Not that I care about her per se, but from the perspective of justice / whats right - and her own safety - she needs to be taken back to the UK and put through the proper channels.

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