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The Takeover Thread - Duchatelet Finally Sells (Jan 2020)
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Not seen that much excitement from a SMT since the other lot got their hands on eleven names and addresses.5
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What's SMT TCE?T_C_E said:Not seen that much excitement from a SMT since the other lot got their hands on eleven names and addresses.1 -
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Cheers SHGShootersHillGuru said:Senior Management Team3 -
How about some cliff notes for those of us that cant?lancashire lad said:%
read the current VoTVcarly burn said:
Go on then Lancs. What's the particular problem with this lot then, in your humble opinion?lancashire lad said:
no I won'tcarly burn said:
Mother Theresa, Tony Hart and Mary Berry are lining up a bid for Newcastle. Sorry to disappoint.lancashire lad said:https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/dec/09/agent-saif-rubie-banned-for-six-weeks-and-fined-over-improper-use-of-twitter
if this is the same Saif Rubie, as in the Guardian article, is the type of person we want involved with our club. I repeat that I am not at all happy with who is taking over our club.
Get used to it.
My VOTV won't arrive for a few weeks.2 -
LargeAddick said:I’m more confident than ever that the deal will be rubber stamped very soon. As for these guys at the game today, seems to me they are mates with Southall and there is nothing to suggest they have anything to do officially with the new regime. Let’s not get our knickers in a twist just yet.
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Got that wrong mate, he's saying you wanker!!!!!!!!!oohaahmortimer said:
It’s what my Italian golf mate shouts out at me quite often after I tee offflyingkiwiDK said:
Excuse my ignorance but what exactly is a Ushanka?Airman Brown said:carly burn said:Think that may well be Heller far left in the Ushanka
That is Heller.0 -
Conjecture? I don’t think so.carly burn said:
Jesus mate. That's all conjecture. And not a single word on the real money man.lancashire lad said:
read the current VoTVcarly burn said:
Go on then Lancs. What's the particular problem with this lot then, in your humble opinion?lancashire lad said:
no I won'tcarly burn said:
Mother Theresa, Tony Hart and Mary Berry are lining up a bid for Newcastle. Sorry to disappoint.lancashire lad said:https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/dec/09/agent-saif-rubie-banned-for-six-weeks-and-fined-over-improper-use-of-twitter
if this is the same Saif Rubie, as in the Guardian article, is the type of person we want involved with our club. I repeat that I am not at all happy with who is taking over our club.
Get used to it.
Airman just whipping up a bit of caution, mainly because it's not Varney involved ;-)
Think you need to chill out a bit and see where this is really heading before you condemn this lot to the Belgian bin.
I’ve not offered a definitive view on this takeover because I don’t have one, but the link to the 2010 takeover bid which involved the convicted fraudster Paul Anthony Garland and which was described in parliament as involving “a bunch of crooks” is not conjecture.
Neither is Matt Southall’s appearance with Laurence Bassini in April - you can find the pictures of them together in the ground if you look. Bassini was banned for three years for his earlier activities at Watford.
I’ve only published the stories I can substantiate myself but there are others, as the wider media is aware and so, no doubt, are the EFL, but that doesn’t mean the takeover won’t be ratified. And we make the best of whatever happens, is my view. But it isn’t conjecture.
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Jesus we haven’t even got rid of the Rat yet and we are already looking into the negatives of the potential new owners! Have a day off for gods sake!!20
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I will say again that Charlton have had dubious owners for most of nearly 100 years existence, since we stopped being a boys club. I really don't think the bar is that high for ESI to show some ambition and improve the infrastructure of cafc. Maybe the "strange" will become clear, but I feel they know the response already if they take liberties or employ inept people in senior positions.
A Fanzine's purpose is to put information about the behind the scenes into the public domain: Otherwise Fanzines would be called official Programmes and run by the club.
I'm struggling to see how ESI won't be a big step forward on Duchatelet, but the fans have been bitten so many times in the past that you half expect a skeleton to be found in the EFL search.
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I couldn't give a shit really. Almost any new owner must be better that RD......a bloke who decided that he would not supply water bottles in the summer, or on gaining promotion decided the manager wasn't good enough for a long term contract & wouldn't strengthen the team either.
Anyway.......the EFL "fit & proper" test can only stop a convicted person from owning a football club (and only convicted of fraud, embezzlement & bankruptcy as for as I'm aware). There is no reason (apart from dual ownership) to stop the new owners buying us.
I'm not on Twitter so dont "follow" anyone but was has been said that Saif Rubie posted just seems to me the usual rubbish that all & sundry post on Twitter or instagram.......mainly childish & puerile. Some of you need to lighten up a little.3 -
Hmmm.
From what I have read today it could be out of the frying pan into. the frying pan1 -
Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”
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Hold your reservations, like us all, for 12 months.seth plum said:Hmmm.
From what I have read today it could be out of the frying pan into. the frying pan1 -
@james@JamesSeed note that above post From November 5th. I’m still in .KiwiValley said:
I'll take 18 December please @JamesSeed and 3 February. Your ever faithful @KiwiValley. Perhaps think of me as your Sancho Panza.JamesSeed said:
This post got me over the 4k LOLs mark!JamesSeed said:Aussie (+ US backing) attempt to buy the club is over.
Can't say which source supplied the info, but apparently RD was impossible to deal with, and they've had enough.
Can I just mention that they might be back in again? (Aiming at 5k)0 -
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Exactly. There are so many people looking for something to moan about.LargeAddick said:I’m more confident than ever that the deal will be rubber stamped very soon. As for these guys at the game today, seems to me they are mates with Southall and there is nothing to suggest they have anything to do officially with the new regime. Let’s not get our knickers in a twist just yet.3 -
If the prospective owners were dodgy I think that the takeover would have been rejected by now.oohaahmortimer said:Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”1 -
Yep , no one ever gets through the netredbuttle said:
If the prospective owners were dodgy I think that the takeover would have been rejected by now.oohaahmortimer said:Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”22 -
oohaahmortimer said:
Yep , no one ever gets through the netredbuttle said:
If the prospective owners were dodgy I think that the takeover would have been rejected by now.oohaahmortimer said:Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”
Actually, I think that the fit and proper tests should be done by our fans...oohaahmortimer said:
Yep , no one ever gets through the netredbuttle said:
If the prospective owners were dodgy I think that the takeover would have been rejected by now.oohaahmortimer said:Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”2 - Sponsored links:
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Colin? We need you mate...redbuttle said:oohaahmortimer said:
Yep , no one ever gets through the netredbuttle said:
If the prospective owners were dodgy I think that the takeover would have been rejected by now.oohaahmortimer said:Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”
Actually, I think that the fit and proper tests should be done by our fans...oohaahmortimer said:
Yep , no one ever gets through the netredbuttle said:
If the prospective owners were dodgy I think that the takeover would have been rejected by now.oohaahmortimer said:Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”0 -
I was joking.KiwiValley said:
Colin? We need you mate...redbuttle said:oohaahmortimer said:
Yep , no one ever gets through the netredbuttle said:
If the prospective owners were dodgy I think that the takeover would have been rejected by now.oohaahmortimer said:Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”
Actually, I think that the fit and proper tests should be done by our fans...oohaahmortimer said:
Yep , no one ever gets through the netredbuttle said:
If the prospective owners were dodgy I think that the takeover would have been rejected by now.oohaahmortimer said:Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”0 -
Excellent summary, Oohaah. Saved me the trouble of saying it, albeit without your unique use of language.oohaahmortimer said:Same old same old
people already protective of our potential new owners
just like loads were ready to drop to their knees and gobble the old Helmet up when he came in .
personally I just want the rat gone at any cost cos I am anyone but him
Plenty of Charlton fans precious of any criticism whatsoever will turn a blind eye to any old shit, as happened with the mismanagement of us over the years by Roly .
The slowness of ratification by the EFL says to me they’re not purer than pure but who is .
Smells of the Kevin Cash spiv regime , with all the best soundbites and a little bit of smellyness thrown in .
All this rich club bollox will I’m sure be a long way from the truth .
If Taylor goes , then there’s the biggest clue any one could get about how ambitious this new ownership will be . He is a must keep if we are to have any real ambitions .
Why would anyone (Charlton fan apart ) in their sane mind want to own us .
Its loss making and even if we were to reach the Prem (unless they did a Blackpool and went up and kept the money straight off) the costs involved to stay there will eventually eat you up , never mind the huge outlay risk you’ll realistically need to get there .
Im not greedy , just finish above the scum, in The Championship, I’ll take with a gentle foray into the Prem , so my kids can have Match Attax Charlton card excitement rather than getting grief from me if I see them holding a palace one .
For now, just get rid of the old scrote and give us all a “helmet free” taste of Charlton again and then we can see/worry about the “strange”new incumbents as time goes by .
as some wise old cardigan wearing curator once said “ it’s gonna be a bumpy ride”3 -
Just want it to go through and let the next chapter begin. Hopefully better than RD.1
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Could separate threads be created for fueds and the ensuing comments? Wading through it on here is a pain in the backside. Or DM each other. Or just hug it out.4
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Before we start condemning ESI, let the takeover happen and sit back and see what happens. We've had 6 years of Roland and perhaps we have become slightly 'anti-owners' especially after the 'spivs' as well. However Im prepared to see where this new chapter take us and how it unravels. The positives for me are-:
1. RD gone
2. LB been told to go and get a new stiker in Jan.
3. Matt Southall has been to more games, home and away, than RD ever did.
4. Matt has spent time with the 'Upbeats'
5. They apparently have money and want to sign up, LB, JJ, SG and of course Taylor.
That handful of positives is a good start for me, so c'mon lets be positive, its time for us all to move on!!47 -
Will continue to have this approach too - Even if Matt Southall is a prick etc. and this new group turn sour
They SURELY cant be as difficult to sell the club as Roland was?0 -
And they want to buy CullenRedmidland said:Before we start condemning ESI, let the takeover happen and sit back and see what happens. We've had 6 years of Roland and perhaps we have become slightly 'anti-owners' especially after the 'spivs' as well. However Im prepared to see where this new chapter take us and how it unravels. The positives for me are-:
1. RD gone
2. LB been told to go and get a new stiker in Jan.
3. Matt Southall has been to more games, home and away, than RD ever did.
4. Matt has spent time with the 'Upbeats'
5. They apparently have money and want to sign up, LB, JJ, SG and of course Taylor.
That handful of positives is a good start for me, so c'mon lets be positive, its time for us all to move on!!7 -
The proof of the pudding is always in the eating.
Everything that Southall has done so far is spot on but his equivalent, Meire, also attended games and she did a charity walk for the Upbeats.
I'm certainly not writing off the new regime, they aren't Duchatelet for a start but having been bitten not once, not twice but thrice under the last three owners some caution, as opposed to blinkered acceptance, is warranted.
I'm looking forward to the EFL approval going up on the OS very soon. I will celebrate like most other fans and then wait to see what actually happens but if we don't scrutinise, sensibly and without prejudice, the new boss then we've learnt nothing.
Good owners will have nothing to hide and will happily answer fans' concerns both with their words and more importantly their actions.
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@Airman Brown
I havn’t yet had the opportunity to read the latest VOTV so am coming at this from less than a position of having the benefit of that but I am genuinely curious to hear your obviously well researched opinion on the involvement of Nimer. Given his position and obvious status I can’t imagine that he would risk his reputation in the “real” business world and status at home in being involved in an enterprise considered as dodgy. I must admit I am twitchy at the involvement of agents although the reason is still unclear to me. If the price payed to Duchatelet is around £50 million then Southall and Heller are very minor investors if investors at all. I am of the opinion that the EFL are seeking to establish the exact source of the finance and imho that would be quite straightforward if the vast majority of the money is coming from Tahnoon Nimer. Perhaps the audit trail isn’t as straightforward as that which throws up more questions.3
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