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ESI: Thoughts so far?

carly burn
carly burn Posts: 19,459
edited January 2020 in General Charlton
Big shebang and fanfare at the start.
Said the right things. But as we all know talk is cheap.

I really don't hope they found thereselves a wounded animal and are playing on our emotions to piss us about.

Ill be honest. I think Southall knows very little about Nimer and vice versa.
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  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,628
    All talk & no action.

    Talk is cheap.

    Actions speak louder than words.


  • bertpalmer
    bertpalmer Posts: 1,774
    No mans an Island
  • Concerned that they could well have put no money in whatsoever to date; our squad is weaker since they took over which I did not think was possible and that they have not even managed to tie up Bowyer.  Early days, so far it has just been talk, I hope they back that talk up and fast.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,764
    Ask again at the end of the window.
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,353
    Whelmed is being generous.  Two weeks to turn into top bananas...
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    Underwhelmed if they've paid Roland circa £50m you'd expect a transfer or two by now considering our injury prone squad 
  • DRAddick
    DRAddick Posts: 3,588
    \was really expecting this to be a Brown59 thread.
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,358
    Definitely a case of ask again at the end of January, for now I have hope. If things remain the same then I guess we really are just cursed 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    edited January 2020
    The Litmus test will be February 1st and which players have joined Cafc and who has departed.

    Thoughts after 18 days is Matt Southall speaks the right words and comes across well to the fans but as the conduit to the manager and coaches and to HE it doesn't appear to be smooth when it's taken Seven weeks and counting to attempt to tie up Lee Bowyer's contract from announcement that we had new owners pending the green light from EFL. The injury crises isn't ESI fault, but it needed addressing from day 1 if their tenure was going to be the polar opposite to Duchatelet. It's a tough gig taking on Cafc who have shown a terrible lack of ambition since 1921 other than Richard Murray part 1(Part 2, he imploded and Murray went from the Midas touch to the touch of Thurman)

    ESI have a fantastic chance to unite this football club. I hope they take that opportunity by being proactive but no signs yet on the pitch despite Matt Southall meeting various Cafc groups and coming across well off the pitch. 

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  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243
    So far they are Roland with good PR 

    I imagine every club and agent on the globe is aware Charlton may have a few quid available coupled with the inflation of this stupid 1 month window and are playing hard to get knowing we are not in a great negotiating position 

    I remain neutral but cynical thus far 
  • bazjonster
    bazjonster Posts: 2,875
    edited January 2020
    I hope Matt Southall gets to read Grapevine's excellent post!

    Grapevine, if you're in retirement my friend, you deserve a call to come out of it, and an invite to head to Floyd Road to impart your wisdom, knowledge and advice. 
  • grumpyaddick
    grumpyaddick Posts: 6,596
    How tall is Grapevine ?
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    edited January 2020
    Spot on Grapevine.

    Hard to know how close things really are regarding the suggested deals and contracts but it does feel like something meaningful has to get over the line this week to allay our anxieties. Bow was hoping to sign the new contract a week ago now. MS was publicly aware of that which makes the delay concerning.

    Also concerning is the ‘is he worth an extra £1000 per week’ case. Surely a top, marquee signing needed through the door to kickstart the new era must be? The squad/team needs strengthening with Championship quality players. We MUST reinforce the team NOW to avoid poor, panic buys on deadline day. 

    Grapevine is right; accept that our needs and the tight timescales to steady the ship will require temporarily stepping slightly outside the long term business plan. The risks to all stakeholders is too great if we get this wrong Matt.......and the clock is ticking very loudly. 10 ‘working’ days left until window closure.
  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,365
    To say that they are “Roland with good PR” is absolute nonsense.

    Theyve demonstrated a keen interest in what Charlton means as a football club to its fans - which is streets ahead of what Roland ever tried to do.

    And they’re on the verge of tying up Bowyer to a 5 year deal for Christ sake!

    Yes, I would have liked to have seen a couple more players in the door but we know it’s not as easy as it may appear to be on Championship Manager. 
  • palarsehater
    palarsehater Posts: 12,296
    I don’t have an issue with not paying over the odds for players - Maddison seems like a tosser who we don’t need, regarding some of the wild comments of putting williams on a 3 year contract  - he gets injured a lot.

    smallest squad value in the championship so we will struggle 

    let’s assess at end of window - bowyers contract can be sorted outside of this 
  • Maybe they get to pay Roland less for the Valley and training ground if we go down.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,222
    Excellent post by @Grapevine49

    They had a plan and a model but that plan then came into contact with reality and, so far, it isn't working. (Insert Moltke or Tyson quote here depending on preference)

    I can fully understand the need to stay within a budget and the wish to not be seen as the soft touch Katrien was in negotiations but that's pointless if you don't end up signing anyone.

    BUT the window isn't closed so still time.

    I've no idea how close or far some deals are from completion so am reserving judgement.

    Looking forward to Friday's meeting with MS where we should get more clarity and, hopefully, there will be new signings to discuss.

  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Ask again at the end of the window.
     Absolutely this. People saying they've done nothing, know nothing of what is going on behind the scenes.
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  • cafc999
    cafc999 Posts: 4,967
    edited January 2020
    Everyone knows who are owners are and add that to the fact we are near the bottom of the table means we have to pay over the odds for a player, which at this moment in time ESI are not willing to do. 
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,210
    Incomings: Green, looks okay.
    Outgoings: Gallagher, class act.

    So not good so far.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    Incomings: Green, looks okay.
    Outgoings: Gallagher, class act.

    So not good so far.
    Leko, Kayal and Ledley gone as well.
  • Scoham said:
    Incomings: Green, looks okay.
    Outgoings: Gallagher, class act.

    So not good so far.
    Leko, Kayal and Ledley gone as well.
    You can hardly blame ESi for players getting season Ending injuries before they even bought the club.
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,035
    Scoham said:
    Incomings: Green, looks okay.
    Outgoings: Gallagher, class act.

    So not good so far.
    Leko, Kayal and Ledley gone as well.
    You can hardly blame ESi for players getting season Ending injuries before they even bought the club.
    No, but they could have been replaced.
  • ESi actions so far:

    management team contract renewal - no
    new players - no
    purchased the Valley - no
    purchased SL - no
    lots of lovely PR words - yes
    a chairman who struts through the lounges before matches - yes

    in mitigation the transfer window is not yet closed but for sometime of our injury crisis has been, the January player market is a sellers market and they should have splashed some cash to help the team

    HE says he is bringing in a medical team from the UAE to assess injured players, surely there are excellent medics in London - they just cost a lot

    not impressed
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,243
    I'm not unimpressed, how can I not be I hated what the previous owner had done and now it has to be undone 

    The fact nothing has happened YET means we are in a position we usually are at this time of season


  • Valley27000
    Valley27000 Posts: 3,417
    Get some very good players in ESI.