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Bob Dylan
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Blood on the tracks for me particularly some of the outtakes on the bootleg series. You can understand why he got the Nobel prize from the lyrics on the likes of Shelter from the Storm and Idiot Wind. How he left Up To Me off the album is beyond me.
Speaking of his official bootlegs also love Tell Tale Signs.1 -
Sillybilly said:No one mentioned Infidels yet. Great album.Think my favourites are: bringing it all back home (I just love “Bob Dylan’s 115th dream and Love minus zero), Infidels and Blood On The Tracks. If live albums count then “At Budokan” has to be in there.
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I’ve never been a great fan of Dylan, he could almost qualify for the ‘Bands/Musician/Singer dislike’ thread!I just don’t particularly like his voice, always sounds whiny to me but will admit to liking Highway 61 and a number of tracks from various other albums, having said that I rarely listen to him.0
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bobmunro said:Sillybilly said:No one mentioned Infidels yet. Great album.Think my favourites are: bringing it all back home (I just love “Bob Dylan’s 115th dream and Love minus zero), Infidels and Blood On The Tracks. If live albums count then “At Budokan” has to be in there.1
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Dylan has tarnished his legacy with much evidence of plagiarism (to be fair, he has always borrowed / stolen right back to the early 60s stuff) but most recently lifting a study guide on Herman Melville for his Nobel speech: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40272123
and the poet Henry Timrod for the Modern Times LP: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/dylan-borrowed-from-obscure-civil-war-poet-say-critics-416069.html
Not to mention all the lifts in the supposed autobiography Chronicles:
https://dissidentvoice.org/2013/12/bob-dylan-and-plagiarism/
The copying even extends to his art works:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/sep/28/bob-dylan-paintings
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StreekDerek said:Blood on the tracks for me particularly some of the outtakes on the bootleg series. You can understand why he got the Nobel prize from the lyrics on the likes of Shelter from the Storm and Idiot Wind. How he left Up To Me off the album is beyond me.
Speaking of his official bootlegs also love Tell Tale Signs.
In all cases it is fascinating to see the evolution of the songs and his train of thought.
Same with the way he has constantly reinvented songs in live performance.
The version of It's Alright Ma, I'm only Bleeding on Before the Flood is far superior to the original imo.0 -
Have these been mentioned?Tell Tale SignsModern Times (where he manages the fading of his voice so well)As well as the obvious:Highway 61 RevisitedBlonde on BlondeBlood on the TracksI'm currently listening to Amore e Furto - DeGregori canta Bob Dylan. Well worth checking out on You Tube0
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EveshamAddick said:Dylan has tarnished his legacy with much evidence of plagiarism (to be fair, he has always borrowed / stolen right back to the early 60s stuff) but most recently lifting a study guide on Herman Melville for his Nobel speech: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40272123
and the poet Henry Timrod for the Modern Times LP: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/dylan-borrowed-from-obscure-civil-war-poet-say-critics-416069.html
Not to mention all the lifts in the supposed autobiography Chronicles:
https://dissidentvoice.org/2013/12/bob-dylan-and-plagiarism/
The copying even extends to his art works:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/sep/28/bob-dylan-paintingsDylan has tarnished his legacy with much evidence of plagiarism (to be fair, he has always borrowed / stolen right back to the early 60s stuff) but most recently lifting a study guide on Herman Melville for his Nobel speech: http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40272123
and the poet Henry Timrod for the Modern Times LP: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/dylan-borrowed-from-obscure-civil-war-poet-say-critics-416069.html
Not to mention all the lifts in the supposed autobiography Chronicles:
https://dissidentvoice.org/2013/12/bob-dylan-and-plagiarism/
The copying even extends to his art works:
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/sep/28/bob-dylan-paintings
nowadays with almost everything collected on the internet with pretty much instant access, it's VERY hard to get away with nicking other people's published work .. check out Ian McEwan as another example
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When does extensive research become plagiarism? I read Why Dylan Matters last year which looks at the links between the Greek classics and Dylan’s lyrics. There’s no doubt Dylan has been influenced by these but also Shakespeare, the bible, the blues and many other things; his genius is to bring them all together and make it is own and be a guide to and for life to so many of us fans.4
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StreekDerek said:When does extensive research become plagiarism? I read Why Dylan Matters last year which looks at the links between the Greek classics and Dylan’s lyrics. There’s no doubt Dylan has been influenced by these but also Shakespeare, the bible, the blues and many other things; his genius is to bring them all together and make it is own and be a guide to and for life to so many of us fans.
Plagiarism is copying almost word for word or note for note another's work with minimum alteration and then passing it off as your own
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Compare and contrast Someday Baby off Modern Times, written by Bob Dylan, to Muddy Water’s Trouble No More.
https://vimeo.com/2869778550 -
Bobby's new album, Rough and Ready Ways, released yesterday.Quite simply outstanding.1
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bobmunro said:Bobby's new album, Rough and Ready Ways, released yesterday.Quite simply outstanding.
Only familiar with the Kennedy one.
Yes, agree... wonderful Album.
Loved all the songs so far. 'Black rider' won't leave me alone..0 -
Majestic.0