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Conor Gallagher - Going to Athletico (p81)
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PragueAddick said:ValleyGary said:shine166 said:DessieValley said:If he's played every 90 minutes since going to Swansea, that blows any excuses that Chelsea or his agent were worried about him getting tired out of the water a bit.
I hope we see him back in a Charlton shirt next season. I have a feeling Villa may go in for him, whatever league they are in, and the John Terry connection may help. I read somewhere that they were interested in January but couldn't take him as PL rules say you can only loan one player from another PL club and they already had Drinkwater.
And Neil Bath looked and sounded like a bloke who wasn't terribly comfortable with the script he'd been given.3 -
paulie8290 said:Fortune 82nd Minute said:Callumcafc said:Chelsea have just agreed a 45m fed with Ajax for Hakim Ziyech. Doesn’t sound like a club short of money to me.
Suspect then young players like Gallagher will once again go to the back of the queue for a first team place.
Crazy to think how much they probably spent in fees to fight to get the ban reduced so they could buy in January then didnt actually buy anyone1 -
PragueAddick said:oohaahmortimer said:Talking of agents , might mate see a fella from near St johns wood drive his kid 250 yards to school, he has 2 security guards outside his £8m-£10m house 24/7 and 4 motors worth a small fortune 2 on drive 2 on road ...
He asked another parent who the fella is and he's a football agent !!!!
Thats gotta wind you up Prague ;-)
Conor's agency calls itself Elite Management Agency. No connection to the model agency (or its many pretenders). Transfermarkt lists their player portfolio. Anyone spot the "elite" players there apart from Conor? Anyone see a £10m plus transfer in summer, apart from Conor?
I'm trying to get a name , not that it has anything to do with Conor but I didn't realise the sort of dough an agent could screw from his client(s) , incredible0 -
does anyone know the level of player southall had on his books when he was an agent?1
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Henry Irving said:You say "follow the money"
I heard Gallagher is on 30k PW.
Swansea offered to pay half of that, much more than we were willing/able to.
Might be true, might not but your obsession with evil agents means you will blame them regardless.
And yes, loans get terminated mid season all the time. I can think of two others this January at Charlton alone, albeit for injury plus Villa recalling both Green and Hogan and then sending them out elsewhere.12 -
stop_shouting said:does anyone know the level of player southall had on his books when he was an agent?11
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killerandflash said:Henry Irving said:You say "follow the money"
I heard Gallagher is on 30k PW.
Swansea offered to pay half of that, much more than we were willing/able to.
Might be true, might not but your obsession with evil agents means you will blame them regardless.
And yes, loans get terminated mid season all the time. I can think of two others this January at Charlton alone, albeit for injury plus Villa recalling both Green and Hogan and then sending them out elsewhere.1 -
I wonder if there's a tipping point with these young Premiership loanee stars.
Three separate Chelsea coaches paying regular visits to Conor at the training ground advising him this, that and the other. At Swansea the Chelsea 'minders' are in charge of a large part of the team and let's be honest it's not for the benefit of Swansea City.
I just hope our new owners build a resilience within that is not at the mercy or whim of outside influences2 -
PragueAddick said:Off_it said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:Addickted said:Are you sure the recall was done for financial/agent reasons @PragueAddick ?
I heard there was another unsavoury possibility over the weekend.
I know something really really bad that will shock everyone, but I can't share or name my source... I've already said too much !! Ignore I said anything and let's take it to PM... I dont think anyone has noticed shhhhhhj
What exactly was "Meltdown Monday" all about then?
I am standing by my assertion that the move has been driven by his agent, though. Putting aside my confidence that this is what our club privately believes is the reason, if a commercial decision looks a bit odd, it's usually helpful to follow the money, right?
Is anyone aware of another case where Chelsea agreed a year long loan of a youngster and then surprised the other club by pulling him out in Jan? They certainly didn't do that with Jay daSilva. You might say he was a less prized asset than Conor, to which I'd answer that Charlton was a far more risky loan club then. What about other similar FAPL clubs doing similar? Again we have a recent comparison. Bielik. Given the uncertainty this time last year, if the Chelsea story holds, you might have expected Arsenal to say, hmm Krystian has come on nicely, lets move him up to a Championship club. Not a peep, and we kept him for the season, and turned him into a £10m asset.
Something stinks, and I'm confident I know where the smell comes from1 -
cafcdave123 said:PragueAddick said:Off_it said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:Addickted said:Are you sure the recall was done for financial/agent reasons @PragueAddick ?
I heard there was another unsavoury possibility over the weekend.
I know something really really bad that will shock everyone, but I can't share or name my source... I've already said too much !! Ignore I said anything and let's take it to PM... I dont think anyone has noticed shhhhhhj
What exactly was "Meltdown Monday" all about then?
I am standing by my assertion that the move has been driven by his agent, though. Putting aside my confidence that this is what our club privately believes is the reason, if a commercial decision looks a bit odd, it's usually helpful to follow the money, right?
Is anyone aware of another case where Chelsea agreed a year long loan of a youngster and then surprised the other club by pulling him out in Jan? They certainly didn't do that with Jay daSilva. You might say he was a less prized asset than Conor, to which I'd answer that Charlton was a far more risky loan club then. What about other similar FAPL clubs doing similar? Again we have a recent comparison. Bielik. Given the uncertainty this time last year, if the Chelsea story holds, you might have expected Arsenal to say, hmm Krystian has come on nicely, lets move him up to a Championship club. Not a peep, and we kept him for the season, and turned him into a £10m asset.
Something stinks, and I'm confident I know where the smell comes from
I thought in that instance it was the player who didnt want to come back rather than Chelsea0 -
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Stu_of_Kunming said:killerandflash said:Henry Irving said:You say "follow the money"
I heard Gallagher is on 30k PW.
Swansea offered to pay half of that, much more than we were willing/able to.
Might be true, might not but your obsession with evil agents means you will blame them regardless.
And yes, loans get terminated mid season all the time. I can think of two others this January at Charlton alone, albeit for injury plus Villa recalling both Green and Hogan and then sending them out elsewhere.
I agree @Stu_of_Kunming no other possible explanation0 -
Callumcafc said:Chelsea have just agreed a 45m fed with Ajax for Hakim Ziyech. Doesn’t sound like a club short of money to me.0
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killerandflash said:Henry Irving said:You say "follow the money"
I heard Gallagher is on 30k PW.
Swansea offered to pay half of that, much more than we were willing/able to.
Might be true, might not but your obsession with evil agents means you will blame them regardless.
And yes, loans get terminated mid season all the time. I can think of two others this January at Charlton alone, albeit for injury plus Villa recalling both Green and Hogan and then sending them out elsewhere.
But Chelsea, Arsenal, and other top FAPL clubs loan out their youngsters as part of a planned development programme, and as we can see, Chelsea have a complete management unit devoted just to that. It does not look that anyone knows of another recent case where Chelsea suddenly, without warning, and half way through a window, triggered a release clause for such a player from a year long loan. And the problem is that having apparently done that here, fans are encouraged to blame Chelsea as a club for "classless" behaviour, when in fact the professionals charged with Conor's development at Chelsea and monitoring his progress at Charlton did not initiate the move at all.
I had myself initially assumed that Flo or Cudicini, as his monitors at Sparrows Lane had initiated it. What I subsequently heard obviously did not come from a random bloke in a pub in Prague, nor from a source I have relied upon in the past. It's up to all posters to believe what and whom they choose to believe.
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cafcdave123 said:Oggy Red said:cafcdave123 said:ForeverAddickted said:cafcdave123 said:PragueAddick said:Off_it said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:Addickted said:Are you sure the recall was done for financial/agent reasons @PragueAddick ?
I heard there was another unsavoury possibility over the weekend.
I know something really really bad that will shock everyone, but I can't share or name my source... I've already said too much !! Ignore I said anything and let's take it to PM... I dont think anyone has noticed shhhhhhj
What exactly was "Meltdown Monday" all about then?
I am standing by my assertion that the move has been driven by his agent, though. Putting aside my confidence that this is what our club privately believes is the reason, if a commercial decision looks a bit odd, it's usually helpful to follow the money, right?
Is anyone aware of another case where Chelsea agreed a year long loan of a youngster and then surprised the other club by pulling him out in Jan? They certainly didn't do that with Jay daSilva. You might say he was a less prized asset than Conor, to which I'd answer that Charlton was a far more risky loan club then. What about other similar FAPL clubs doing similar? Again we have a recent comparison. Bielik. Given the uncertainty this time last year, if the Chelsea story holds, you might have expected Arsenal to say, hmm Krystian has come on nicely, lets move him up to a Championship club. Not a peep, and we kept him for the season, and turned him into a £10m asset.
Something stinks, and I'm confident I know where the smell comes from
I thought in that instance it was the player who didnt want to come back rather than Chelsea
Although he might be bigger than you.
i'm only and inch shorter but have the advantage of having no qualms about biting the cunts windpipe2 -
stonemuse said:cafcdave123 said:Oggy Red said:cafcdave123 said:ForeverAddickted said:cafcdave123 said:PragueAddick said:Off_it said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:Addickted said:Are you sure the recall was done for financial/agent reasons @PragueAddick ?
I heard there was another unsavoury possibility over the weekend.
I know something really really bad that will shock everyone, but I can't share or name my source... I've already said too much !! Ignore I said anything and let's take it to PM... I dont think anyone has noticed shhhhhhj
What exactly was "Meltdown Monday" all about then?
I am standing by my assertion that the move has been driven by his agent, though. Putting aside my confidence that this is what our club privately believes is the reason, if a commercial decision looks a bit odd, it's usually helpful to follow the money, right?
Is anyone aware of another case where Chelsea agreed a year long loan of a youngster and then surprised the other club by pulling him out in Jan? They certainly didn't do that with Jay daSilva. You might say he was a less prized asset than Conor, to which I'd answer that Charlton was a far more risky loan club then. What about other similar FAPL clubs doing similar? Again we have a recent comparison. Bielik. Given the uncertainty this time last year, if the Chelsea story holds, you might have expected Arsenal to say, hmm Krystian has come on nicely, lets move him up to a Championship club. Not a peep, and we kept him for the season, and turned him into a £10m asset.
Something stinks, and I'm confident I know where the smell comes from
I thought in that instance it was the player who didnt want to come back rather than Chelsea
Although he might be bigger than you.
i'm only and inch shorter but have the advantage of having no qualms about biting the cunts windpipe0 -
stop_shouting said:does anyone know the level of player southall had on his books when he was an agent?0
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cafcdave123 said:Oggy Red said:cafcdave123 said:ForeverAddickted said:cafcdave123 said:PragueAddick said:Off_it said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:Addickted said:Are you sure the recall was done for financial/agent reasons @PragueAddick ?
I heard there was another unsavoury possibility over the weekend.
I know something really really bad that will shock everyone, but I can't share or name my source... I've already said too much !! Ignore I said anything and let's take it to PM... I dont think anyone has noticed shhhhhhj
What exactly was "Meltdown Monday" all about then?
I am standing by my assertion that the move has been driven by his agent, though. Putting aside my confidence that this is what our club privately believes is the reason, if a commercial decision looks a bit odd, it's usually helpful to follow the money, right?
Is anyone aware of another case where Chelsea agreed a year long loan of a youngster and then surprised the other club by pulling him out in Jan? They certainly didn't do that with Jay daSilva. You might say he was a less prized asset than Conor, to which I'd answer that Charlton was a far more risky loan club then. What about other similar FAPL clubs doing similar? Again we have a recent comparison. Bielik. Given the uncertainty this time last year, if the Chelsea story holds, you might have expected Arsenal to say, hmm Krystian has come on nicely, lets move him up to a Championship club. Not a peep, and we kept him for the season, and turned him into a £10m asset.
Something stinks, and I'm confident I know where the smell comes from
I thought in that instance it was the player who didnt want to come back rather than Chelsea
Although he might be bigger than you.
i'm only and inch shorter but have the advantage of having no qualms about biting the cunts windpipe0 -
Fortune 82nd Minute said:cafcdave123 said:Oggy Red said:cafcdave123 said:ForeverAddickted said:cafcdave123 said:PragueAddick said:Off_it said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:shine166 said:PragueAddick said:Addickted said:Are you sure the recall was done for financial/agent reasons @PragueAddick ?
I heard there was another unsavoury possibility over the weekend.
I know something really really bad that will shock everyone, but I can't share or name my source... I've already said too much !! Ignore I said anything and let's take it to PM... I dont think anyone has noticed shhhhhhj
What exactly was "Meltdown Monday" all about then?
I am standing by my assertion that the move has been driven by his agent, though. Putting aside my confidence that this is what our club privately believes is the reason, if a commercial decision looks a bit odd, it's usually helpful to follow the money, right?
Is anyone aware of another case where Chelsea agreed a year long loan of a youngster and then surprised the other club by pulling him out in Jan? They certainly didn't do that with Jay daSilva. You might say he was a less prized asset than Conor, to which I'd answer that Charlton was a far more risky loan club then. What about other similar FAPL clubs doing similar? Again we have a recent comparison. Bielik. Given the uncertainty this time last year, if the Chelsea story holds, you might have expected Arsenal to say, hmm Krystian has come on nicely, lets move him up to a Championship club. Not a peep, and we kept him for the season, and turned him into a £10m asset.
Something stinks, and I'm confident I know where the smell comes from
I thought in that instance it was the player who didnt want to come back rather than Chelsea
Although he might be bigger than you.
i'm only and inch shorter but have the advantage of having no qualms about biting the cunts windpipe
i do think hes a scummy fucker, him and his mates "roasting" drunk girls and filming it. he also has acted like he's some sort of gangster.
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Reckon that Taylor Maloney might be worth a few Bob.0
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Chris_from_Sidcup said:Callumcafc said:Chelsea have just agreed a 45m fed with Ajax for Hakim Ziyech. Doesn’t sound like a club short of money to me.0
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Just googled Carlton Cole and he played seven times for England. He was also declared bankrupt in 2018, how the fuck does a Premier league pro footballer of 15 years manage that?0
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Cordoban Addick said:Just googled Carlton Cole and he played seven times for England. He was also declared bankrupt in 2018, how the fuck does a Premier league pro footballer of 15 years manage that?1
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billysboots said:Cordoban Addick said:Just googled Carlton Cole and he played seven times for England. He was also declared bankrupt in 2018, how the fuck does a Premier league pro footballer of 15 years manage that?
Didn't a load of famous players lose a fortune in a Spanish property scheme, for example?0 -
killerandflash said:billysboots said:Cordoban Addick said:Just googled Carlton Cole and he played seven times for England. He was also declared bankrupt in 2018, how the fuck does a Premier league pro footballer of 15 years manage that?
Didn't a load of famous players lose a fortune in a Spanish property scheme, for example?0 -
PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:billysboots said:Cordoban Addick said:Just googled Carlton Cole and he played seven times for England. He was also declared bankrupt in 2018, how the fuck does a Premier league pro footballer of 15 years manage that?
Didn't a load of famous players lose a fortune in a Spanish property scheme, for example?2 -
PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:billysboots said:Cordoban Addick said:Just googled Carlton Cole and he played seven times for England. He was also declared bankrupt in 2018, how the fuck does a Premier league pro footballer of 15 years manage that?
Didn't a load of famous players lose a fortune in a Spanish property scheme, for example?
https://www.ftadviser.com/your-industry/2017/06/15/shearer-reaches-settlement-over-advice-dispute/Former England football star Alan Shearer has agreed a settlement after claiming he was given “negligent” financial advice and launching a £9m High Court damages claim.Mr Shearer, 46, had sued financial adviser Kevin Neal and pension specialist Suffolk Life.Mr Justice Leggatt started overseeing a trial at the High Court in London on Wednesday, but a lawyer representing Mr Shearer told the judge on Thursday that an agreement had been reached between the star, Mr Neal and Suffolk Life.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/footballers-face-pound100m-meltdown-q3n5h7q73khSCORES of leading footballers face losses totalling an estimated £100m, with some confronting potential ruin, after investing in film schemes and property ventures recommended by two financial advisers operating at the heart of the national game.Some of the biggest names in British football are among those caught up in the crisis facing some players — including former England and Manchester United stars Rio Ferdinand and Andy Cole, and the Match of the Day pundits Danny Murphy, Martin Keown and Robbie Savage — according to leaked documents seen by The Sunday Times.More than 100 players were advised by David McKee and Kevin McMenamin, whose firm Kingsbridge Asset Management earned more than £5m in commission on the players’ investments before they tanked or the footballers0 -
killerandflash said:Bad investments is usually the way, putting their money in tax efficient investments which go tits up...
Didn't a load of famous players lose a fortune in a Spanish property scheme, for example?
Yeah, first rule, whenever you hear the word "scheme," it is usually best to avoid that.0 -
killerandflash said:PragueAddick said:killerandflash said:billysboots said:Cordoban Addick said:Just googled Carlton Cole and he played seven times for England. He was also declared bankrupt in 2018, how the fuck does a Premier league pro footballer of 15 years manage that?
Didn't a load of famous players lose a fortune in a Spanish property scheme, for example?
https://www.ftadviser.com/your-industry/2017/06/15/shearer-reaches-settlement-over-advice-dispute/Former England football star Alan Shearer has agreed a settlement after claiming he was given “negligent” financial advice and launching a £9m High Court damages claim.Mr Shearer, 46, had sued financial adviser and pension specialist golfaddick on Charlton Life.5 -
Huh that’s weird...1
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Just had a little browse on the Swansea forum. They are not a happy bunch over there, the fans do not seem to have any faith in the managers ability.
For example I saw one comment that the reason Gallagher has gone from 'bossing' games for us to looking 'powder puff' for them is because of the manager.
Wonder how Chelsea and Gallaghers agent feel about his development at the moment?2