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Fans back at the Valley in September?

Redrobo
Redrobo Posts: 11,338
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Dr Kish saying we could open our gates again in September but with only 25% of available seats. About 7000 fans.

Not enough for all season ticket holders to go. Should old git’s like me and kids be stopped from going?

What would be fair?

I think away fans should be banned across the leagues should be put in place to stop travel and the spread of the virus and this will provide more seats.
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  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 3,092
    Should be based on long service.
  • Big_Bad_World
    Big_Bad_World Posts: 5,859
    Would that also entail curbs on home fans that live more than a certain mileage from the home venue?

    How far does someone have to travel for it to be stopped? Genuine question as see no difference between a home fan travelling in from, say, Cheshire (yes, I'm talking about you, @bobmunro ;) ) than from a single away fan travelling from Stoke.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,582
    Should be based on longevity of current season tickets and away fans banned so the Jimmy seed can be used too
  • ReeCAFC15
    ReeCAFC15 Posts: 145
    Loyalty points over the last couple of seasons
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,451
    Redrobo said:
    Dr Kish saying we could open our gates again in September but with only 25% of available seats. About 7000 fans.

    Not enough for all season ticket holders to go. Should old git’s like me and kids be stopped from going?

    What would be fair?

    I think away fans should be banned across the leagues should be put in place to stop travel and the spread of the virus and this will provide more seats.
    Some really good questions.  I don't have the answers.  But, I hope the questions are still relevant by September. Because, for them to be relevant questions, three things would have to take place.  First, that Charlton survives until then.  Second, that Charlton are still playing at The Valley next season.  Third, that Charlton sell 7,000 season tickets.  I hope all those happen, but they're not all given right now. 
  • RichyB
    RichyB Posts: 47
    Chizz said:
    Redrobo said:
    Dr Kish saying we could open our gates again in September but with only 25% of available seats. About 7000 fans.

    Not enough for all season ticket holders to go. Should old git’s like me and kids be stopped from going?

    What would be fair?

    I think away fans should be banned across the leagues should be put in place to stop travel and the spread of the virus and this will provide more seats.
    Some really good questions.  I don't have the answers.  But, I hope the questions are still relevant by September. Because, for them to be relevant questions, three things would have to take place.  First, that Charlton survives until then.  Second, that Charlton are still playing at The Valley next season.  Third, that Charlton sell 7,000 season tickets.  I hope all those happen, but they're not all given right now. 
    Forth - We don’t get a second spike ! 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,067
    Henry Irving said:
    Priority will be:

    Museum Honorary Life Members

    CARD activists

    Fans Forum members

    Charlton Life badge owners

    Valley Gold

    Season ticket holders.



    All been signed off by Peter Varney



    You missed one!
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,505
    edited June 2020
    We should give priority to supporters who bring luck. Give priority to those supporters with the highest win ratio at games they've attended.

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  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,427
    Implement an “I’m not going today” scheme- so that those who are entitled to attend can transfer their place to someone if they can’t attend. 
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,532
    Sorry but I can't see this happening unless there is a vast majority approach that we simply don't care about a certain number of COVID cases and COVID deaths anymore. I'm not even convinced we'll finish this season. I think most of 20-21 will be played behind closed doors 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,033
    Big_Bad_World said:
    Would that also entail curbs on home fans that live more than a certain mileage from the home venue?

    How far does someone have to travel for it to be stopped? Genuine question as see no difference between a home fan travelling in from, say, Cheshire (yes, I'm talking about you, @bobmunro ;) ) than from a single away fan travelling from Stoke.
    Would question how people are travelling compared to distance - e.g. Use your own car then its surely fine because your interacting with less people
  • peterreeves
    peterreeves Posts: 1,081
    SDAddick said:
    Sorry but I can't see this happening unless there is a vast majority approach that we simply don't care about a certain number of COVID cases and COVID deaths anymore. I'm not even convinced we'll finish this season. I think most of 20-21 will be played behind closed doors 
    Got to agree... Until a vaccine materialises I just can't see mass gatherings this side of Xmas... Unless the government decide they can't lock down again and go for Herd immunity. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,454
    bobmunro said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Priority will be:

    Museum Honorary Life Members

    CARD activists

    Fans Forum members

    Charlton Life badge owners

    Valley Gold

    Season ticket holders.



    All been signed off by Peter Varney



    You missed one!


    Of course Honoury Museum life members such as yourself, and museum trustees, get priority but we don't need to let the riff raff know, they'll only complain.

    Did you want lounge or directors box tickets BTW?
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,475
    if we're relegated there will be no need for social distancing
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,067
    I cannot see this happening in September, and certainly not 7,000 if the 2m rule is still in place.
    Once seated it might be possible, but going to and from seats and entry and exit would be a nightmare.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,862
    wouldn't it cost more to run the Valley for a game with 7,000 in it vs the revenue raised? 
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 96,033
    Well season tickets are about to go on sale

    https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5ee69998bf9bc/202021-season-tickets-to-go-on-sale
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,067
    edited June 2020
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Big_Bad_World said:
    Would that also entail curbs on home fans that live more than a certain mileage from the home venue?

    How far does someone have to travel for it to be stopped? Genuine question as see no difference between a home fan travelling in from, say, Cheshire (yes, I'm talking about you, @bobmunro ;) ) than from a single away fan travelling from Stoke.
    Would question how people are travelling compared to distance - e.g. Use your own car then its surely fine because your interacting with less people

    But the risk of an accident or breakdown is far higher. I would drive but close to a 500 mile round trip - bit like London to Durham!

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  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 12,007
    Rothko said:
    wouldn't it cost more to run the Valley for a game with 7,000 in it vs the revenue raised? 
    We'll probably find out soon enough when we start our centenary League season back in Division Three (South).
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,454
    bobmunro said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Big_Bad_World said:
    Would that also entail curbs on home fans that live more than a certain mileage from the home venue?

    How far does someone have to travel for it to be stopped? Genuine question as see no difference between a home fan travelling in from, say, Cheshire (yes, I'm talking about you, @bobmunro ;) ) than from a single away fan travelling from Stoke.
    Would question how people are travelling compared to distance - e.g. Use your own car then its surely fine because your interacting with less people

    But the risk of an accident or breakdown is far higher. I would drive but close to a 500 mile round trip - bit like London to Durham!
    How is your eyesight these days?
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,073
    Only fans who went to the checkatrade games last season should be allowed. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,454
    Briston_Addick said:
    Rothko said:
    wouldn't it cost more to run the Valley for a game with 7,000 in it vs the revenue raised? 
    We'll probably find out soon enough when we start our centenary League season back in Division Three (South).
    Next season will be 20/21 which will be the centenary of CAFC turning professional and our year in the Southern League.

    21/22 will be the centenary of being football league members (not counting when we were expelled in the 1940s) @Briston_Addick
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 12,007
    edited June 2020
    Henry Irving said:
    Briston_Addick said:
    Rothko said:
    wouldn't it cost more to run the Valley for a game with 7,000 in it vs the revenue raised? 
    We'll probably find out soon enough when we start our centenary League season back in Division Three (South).
    Next season will be 20/21 which will be the centenary of CAFC turning professional and our year in the Southern League.

    21/22 will be the centenary of being football league members (not counting when we were expelled in the 1940s) @Briston_Addick
    I never said it was going to be next season we'd be back at that level ...

    ;)
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,067
    Henry Irving said:
    bobmunro said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Priority will be:

    Museum Honorary Life Members

    CARD activists

    Fans Forum members

    Charlton Life badge owners

    Valley Gold

    Season ticket holders.



    All been signed off by Peter Varney



    You missed one!


    Of course Honoury Museum life members such as yourself, and museum trustees, get priority but we don't need to let the riff raff know, they'll only complain.

    Did you want lounge or directors box tickets BTW?

    Lounge I think - most of the riff raff are actually in the directors' box!
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 21,067
    Henry Irving said:
    bobmunro said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Big_Bad_World said:
    Would that also entail curbs on home fans that live more than a certain mileage from the home venue?

    How far does someone have to travel for it to be stopped? Genuine question as see no difference between a home fan travelling in from, say, Cheshire (yes, I'm talking about you, @bobmunro ;) ) than from a single away fan travelling from Stoke.
    Would question how people are travelling compared to distance - e.g. Use your own car then its surely fine because your interacting with less people

    But the risk of an accident or breakdown is far higher. I would drive but close to a 500 mile round trip - bit like London to Durham!
    How is your eyesight these days?

    Ok since I got a pair of these:

    Bug Eye Specs

  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,863
    peterreeves said:
    SDAddick said:
    Sorry but I can't see this happening unless there is a vast majority approach that we simply don't care about a certain number of COVID cases and COVID deaths anymore. I'm not even convinced we'll finish this season. I think most of 20-21 will be played behind closed doors 
    Got to agree... Until a vaccine materialises I just can't see mass gatherings this side of Xmas... Unless the government decide they can't lock down again and go for Herd immunity. 
    Those that want to go can go.
    Those who are afraid, stay at home.
    Simple.
    If it's only 25 per cent capacity and social distancing can be maintained, what's the issue?
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,338
    Big_Bad_World said:
    Would that also entail curbs on home fans that live more than a certain mileage from the home venue?

    How far does someone have to travel for it to be stopped? Genuine question as see no difference between a home fan travelling in from, say, Cheshire (yes, I'm talking about you, @bobmunro ;) ) than from a single away fan travelling from Stoke.
    One or two travelling distances from random locations across the country is not going to cause the same issues as general away support. 

    Banning away support is a simple and effective way of reducing the risk of transferring the virus from one area to another. Very important when one sees that there are hot spots of COVID 19 in our country and these are likely to spring up consistently going forward. I agree that the less distance traveled by us all is a good thing, and one can but hope that fans from all clubs will take their responsibility to the greater good seriously.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,289
    edited June 2020
    sam3110 said:
    Should be based on longevity of current season tickets and away fans banned so the Jimmy seed can be used too
    Absolutely right, those who supported the Duchatelet regime with their season tickets should be deprioritised. Before anyone dies of apoplexy, I'm only joking :wink:
     
    Seriously though I'd be very surprised there were public games so soon and don't agree that longevity should be a factor in deciding - it encapsulates too many other things, primarily how old you are. It would be fairer to not have season tickets if demand outstrips supply, Instead manage a register so that everyone gets fair dibs.  Would probably never happen though as would mean more work for the club.

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