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The Salisbury poisonings BBC
charltonman2016
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Did anyone watch the 3 part drama telling the story of the Salisbury Poisonings in 2018. Thought it was brilliantly put together and acted throughout. Lots of parts I didn't know had happened and how bad it was for those who were poisoned
Well worth a watch on BBC Iplayer
Well worth a watch on BBC Iplayer
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Yeah I enjoyed it. It was well done, well acted and only three episodes so not too padded out. Definitely worth checking out.4
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Maybe it was only me but why when he first went to the hospital did the copper not even mention he’d been in the Schripol house? Could have saved him and his family a lot of problems.
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Very well done, good performances.2
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And a good lesson in why you should use local public health officers to track and trace infection.14
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Did we send the programme to Moscow to get their thoughts on what they thought on it before it aired? - Jeremy Corbyn, probably.4
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What ever happened to Jezza?1
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Good series but why did the doctors and nurses not stop family members get close to/touch the ill patients when they knew they were poisoned and possibly infectious?0
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Another comedy genius......Raith_C_Chattonell said:1 -
Don't think you can "catch" poisoning.HardyAddick said:Good series but why did the doctors and nurses not stop family members get close to/touch the ill patients when they knew they were poisoned and possibly infectious?
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maybe not but they certainly looked infectious.0
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Slightly off topic but if you are interested by this sort of thing (Russian spies, KGB, MI6 etc) I can recommend the book 'The Spy and the Traitor' by Ben Macintyre. Brilliant read.
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Boris Johnson has declined to publish the conclusions of the report, prepared eight months ago, of an enquiry chaired by Dominic Grieve the ex Conservative minister, into Russian interference and influence in British politics. This has nothing whatever to do with the fact that the Conservative party received nearly 5 million pounds from Russian donors in the run up to the election and that Dominic Cummings was busily working in Russia in the late 1990’s, just when a Mr Putin was taking over there.10
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Thought it was good but a very high level version of what haopened and concentrated on a few individuals when a lot more were involved - a lot of key points, personnel and decisions missing. But maybe that is all that could be included1
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Maybe some people didnt speak to the production team or want things public.PrincessFiona said:Thought it was good but a very high level version of what haopened and concentrated on a few individuals when a lot more were involved - a lot of key points, personnel and decisions missing. But maybe that is all that could be included
One thing did puzzle me though. At the end (and I've subsequently checked online) they said that Dawn's family are pushing for an enquiry & want answers. To what exactly. ? The fact her boyfriend found something in a bin & gave it to her as a present. I thought those in charge did bloody well locking down Salisbury when they did & removing benches doors etc that were contaminated. Dont think you can blame anybody for not finding the source of the poison. Perhaps they want to ask Putin along for a chat.....I'm sure he'll likely give them the answers they are looking for.3 -
Surely you can with Radiation poisoningstevexreeve said:
Don't think you can "catch" poisoning.HardyAddick said:Good series but why did the doctors and nurses not stop family members get close to/touch the ill patients when they knew they were poisoned and possibly infectious?0 -
You can’t catch radiation poisoning. You can get poisoned by the same source as someone else but unless you’ve got radioactive material on or in you, you can’t poison someone else. Polonium, which was used with Litvinyenko (spelling?) has a half-life of 138 days so will still be effective for some time, but I’d think the amount needed to kill you from the inside would be quite small and not too dangerous to those around you.MrOneLung said:
Surely you can with Radiation poisoningstevexreeve said:
Don't think you can "catch" poisoning.HardyAddick said:Good series but why did the doctors and nurses not stop family members get close to/touch the ill patients when they knew they were poisoned and possibly infectious?Novichok and other nerve agents need internal or external contact to poison you. If the poisoned person has it on them they could infect others but not if it was only inside them.0 -
Quite choked up at the end of that. As @Airman Brown says about Public Health officials in this country, they are well prepared and the best people to trace and track! Wonder why we don't use them (or fund them) more?
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Yes, that is partly the reason and I am not sure what is and isn't in the public domain. The proximity to Porton Down was crucial.golfaddick said:
Maybe some people didnt speak to the production team or want things public.PrincessFiona said:Thought it was good but a very high level version of what haopened and concentrated on a few individuals when a lot more were involved - a lot of key points, personnel and decisions missing. But maybe that is all that could be included
One thing did puzzle me though. At the end (and I've subsequently checked online) they said that Dawn's family are pushing for an enquiry & want answers. To what exactly. ? The fact her boyfriend found something in a bin & gave it to her as a present. I thought those in charge did bloody well locking down Salisbury when they did & removing benches doors etc that were contaminated. Dont think you can blame anybody for not finding the source of the poison. Perhaps they want to ask Putin along for a chat.....I'm sure he'll likely give them the answers they are looking for.
I am not sure why as I agree they did an amazing job. I read comments at the time that some people thought Dawn wasn't treated the same as other affected by it. The programme showed how much she was exposed to (ironically spraying on more as she couldn't smell the 'perfume') whilst not being in hte best of health.
Thought it was poignant having the real characters at the end.5 -
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As a drama it worked really well. Add in that it's a true story with significant involvement of those directly impacted and it made it deeply affecting.
I've no idea how close to reality the 2 central government characters were or whether they just represented officialdom's attitude but their obsessions with spin/distortion and cost were chilling. An informative insight to the motivations in play in our current health emergency.
Interesting to note that Superintendent Dave Minty and his boss DCC Mills were both awarded the Queen's Police Medal in the last New Year's Honours list. Based on the drama perhaps not hard to see why Minty was rewarded and inconceivable his boss wouldn't get at least the same. Quite a long time after the vents.
Tracy Daszkiewicz's role in the matter can not be understated. She'd been in post barely 3 months when events unfolded in March 2018. While she was undoubtedly executing the training she had received up to that point in her career, the tangible prospect of the illness and death of potentially thousands of people, in her own town, would have flattened many. No matter how much training, how much theoretical rehearsal one might have seen, the sudden reality would overwhelm the majority.
Incidentally that training hadn't included chemical weapons and nerve agent poisoning, not unreasonably one might have said. Her achievement in that light, is all the more remarkable.
She's had a promotion and is currently with PHE in its current COVID engagement but surely some sort of award or acknowledgement, commensurate with those dished out to plod above, is due, is it not? Without Mrs Daszkiewicz, Messrs Minty & Mills's jobs would have been entirely different.
Modest to the last, she is quoted as stating her role was just one in a team of dozens, then supported by hundreds more of her council colleagues; she was 'just doing her job'.
There can be no doubt that if any part of the incident had turned out measurably worse, then hers would have been among the first high profile heads to role, irrespective of actual fault or failing. Her job title would have been one to which it was easy for the scum in the press or in Westminster to attach blame despite their own abject ignorance and complacency.5 -
This. I did look up to see is she had been given an award as like you thought surely she must have. But couldn't find anythingStigThundercock said:As a drama it worked really well. Add in that it's a true story with significant involvement of those directly impacted and it made it deeply affecting.
I've no idea how close to reality the 2 central government characters were or whether they just represented officialdom's attitude but their obsessions with spin/distortion and cost were chilling. An informative insight to the motivations in play in our current health emergency.
Interesting to note that Superintendent Dave Minty and his boss DCC Mills were both awarded the Queen's Police Medal in the last New Year's Honours list. Based on the drama perhaps not hard to see why Minty was rewarded and inconceivable his boss wouldn't get at least the same. Quite a long time after the vents.
Tracy Daszkiewicz's role in the matter can not be understated. She'd been in post barely 3 months when events unfolded in March 2018. While she was undoubtedly executing the training she had received up to that point in her career, the tangible prospect of the illness and death of potentially thousands of people, in her own town, would have flattened many. No matter how much training, how much theoretical rehearsal one might have seen, the sudden reality would overwhelm the majority.
Incidentally that training hadn't included chemical weapons and nerve agent poisoning, not unreasonably one might have said. Her achievement in that light, is all the more remarkable.
She's had a promotion and is currently with PHE in its current COVID engagement but surely some sort of award or acknowledgement, commensurate with those dished out to plod above, is due, is it not? Without Mrs Daszkiewicz, Messrs Minty & Mills's jobs would have been entirely different.
Modest to the last, she is quoted as stating her role was just one in a team of dozens, then supported by hundreds more of her council colleagues; she was 'just doing her job'.
There can be no doubt that if any part of the incident had turned out measurably worse, then hers would have been among the first high profile heads to role, irrespective of actual fault or failing. Her job title would have been one to which it was easy for the scum in the press or in Westminster to attach blame despite their own abject ignorance and complacency.0 -
As this crime happened in my local town I was frankly dreading the BBC doing their normal 'take' on what was a devastating assault on this country.I envisiged the BBC adapting the people involved to their view of the world with BAME, gay and dominant females but thankfully only the latter appeared. What a travesty though that as expected the majority of the male characters were subservient, bumbling and 'not there when wanted' when actually they did play an important part too.PS Before the Corbynistas pounce, I'm not going to bend the knee to convicted armed robbers or those who assault the police either!6
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Bizarrem_2 said:As this crime happened in my local town I was frankly dreading the BBC doing their normal 'take' on what was a devastating assault on this country.I envisiged the BBC adapting the people involved to their view of the world with BAME, gay and dominant females but thankfully only the latter appeared. What a travesty though that as expected the majority of the male characters were subservient, bumbling and 'not there when wanted' when actually they did play an important part too.PS Before the Corbynistas pounce, I'm not going to bend the knee to convicted armed robbers or those who assault the police either!3 -
I haven’t seen it.
Gutted now as I was told one of the characters is someone I worked with.
Can’t get iplayer here.0 -
Yep, you have to be mad, weird or bizarre if you don’t see the world like the BBC!5
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Have you ever actually met anyone from "the BBC"?m_2 said:Yep, you have to be mad, weird or bizarre if you don’t see the world like the BBC!0 -
Just a bit, I’ve worked in PR all my life.2
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VPN, KB?KBslittlesis said:I haven’t seen it.
Gutted now as I was told one of the characters is someone I worked with.
Can’t get iplayer here.0
