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Utter incompetence here as well by Meire.
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  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    Glug glug glug.. .
  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,603
    Christ for our side the odd £465 looks to much .
  • Interesting that Robinson's two clubs pay the most and he has/had shares in a football agent's company.

    Interesting!
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    Ah. On hols and that was when i was out of signal.sorry.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,652
    edited April 2017
    Playoffs here we come!

    Edit - just realised that was alphabetical, probably the only way we were going to finish in the top six.

    That is bleeding terrible.
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,463
    edited June 2020
    Agent fees came out today. Of course it was going to be a low figure for us, but some big numbers there. 

    Stoke spent quite a chunk but haven’t seen much return on ‘investment’ have they. 


  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,870
    Interesting how close the 3 promoted clubs are, which is reflective of the budgets of all 3 really
  • TellyTubby
    TellyTubby Posts: 3,550
    Agent fees came out today. Of course it was going to be a low figure for us, but some big numbers there. 

    Stoke spent quite a chunk but haven’t seen much return on ‘investment’ have they. 


    I think this helps to highlight how agents are milking football and just why they are so keen to agitate for players to move. 

    Of course, they get a cut even if their client doesn't move, just less, I assume. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,341
    Are those figures cash payments only? Or do they also include Range Rovers and bitches?
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  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,171
    Agent fees came out today. Of course it was going to be a low figure for us, but some big numbers there. 

    Stoke spent quite a chunk but haven’t seen much return on ‘investment’ have they. 


    I think this helps to highlight how agents are milking football and just why they are so keen to agitate for players to move. 

    Of course, they get a cut even if their client doesn't move, just less, I assume. 
    The three lowest spenders - the three teams in the relegation zone at the re-start...
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,829
    Stoke nearly £6m in a year on agents fees. Blimey
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,463
    Do agents gets fees for loans too? 

    Trying to work out what our 300k was spent on. 
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,587
    All that money going out the game is ridiculous. 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,870
    Do agents gets fees for loans too? 

    Trying to work out what our 300k was spent on. 
    We've signed plenty of perms during that period, free transfers will still incur agent fees I assume

    Williams (when he resigned), Oshilaja, Hemed, Amos, Oztumer, Matthews, Aneke
    We paid fees for Purrington and Bonne
    Contract extensions may also incur agent fees

  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,175
    Shows the gap is getting wider. The lowest amounts by some distance are the three promoted teams. After that it's Millwall, who have done well there, and Hull whose owners couldn't give a single one anymore. As we can clearly see with Stoke, money doesn't buy success for sure but it certainly helps. There really does need to be some kind of cap on spending somewhere or soon the second half of the Championship is going to be completely cut away from the top
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,232
    Stoke nearly £6m in a year on agents fees. Blimey
    @bobmunro is worth every penny of that annual wage
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    Do agents gets fees for loans too? 

    Trying to work out what our 300k was spent on. 
    there is a full list of players on FA site although it falls short of giving a monetary amount for each transaction. 
    We had 26 fees, and this does include loans. It also includes 11 for resigning of existing players such as Phillips, Lapslie, Pearce and Pratley. 
    To be fair it is important that some of these, particularly the youngsters need advice, and a fee should be paid. some amounts must be way over the top. £49m for Championship, £263m for premier, £4m for League 1, £1m for League 2 and over £300k for non-league teams!

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/intermediaries/intermediaries-transactions
  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    And to think Derby's would be alot more if Rooney was classed as a player and not management 
  • DoctorCharlton
    DoctorCharlton Posts: 2,463
    redman said:
    Do agents gets fees for loans too? 

    Trying to work out what our 300k was spent on. 
    there is a full list of players on FA site although it falls short of giving a monetary amount for each transaction. 
    We had 26 fees, and this does include loans. It also includes 11 for resigning of existing players such as Phillips, Lapslie, Pearce and Pratley. 
    To be fair it is important that some of these, particularly the youngsters need advice, and a fee should be paid. some amounts must be way over the top. £49m for Championship, £263m for premier, £4m for League 1, £1m for League 2 and over £300k for non-league teams!

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/intermediaries/intermediaries-transactions
    Thanks mate.
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  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    I expect Swansea's is so high as Gallagher's agent needed persuading
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,870
    redman said:
    Do agents gets fees for loans too? 

    Trying to work out what our 300k was spent on. 
    there is a full list of players on FA site although it falls short of giving a monetary amount for each transaction. 
    We had 26 fees, and this does include loans. It also includes 11 for resigning of existing players such as Phillips, Lapslie, Pearce and Pratley. 
    To be fair it is important that some of these, particularly the youngsters need advice, and a fee should be paid. some amounts must be way over the top. £49m for Championship, £263m for premier, £4m for League 1, £1m for League 2 and over £300k for non-league teams!

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/intermediaries/intermediaries-transactions
    Looking at L1, not surprisingly Sunderland are at the top (£1.3m), but surprised that Coventry spent more than us (£354k). Wycombe spent an impressively low £26k, and Gillingham just £28k, both doing very well on the pitch
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,156
    redman said:
    Do agents gets fees for loans too? 

    Trying to work out what our 300k was spent on. 
    there is a full list of players on FA site although it falls short of giving a monetary amount for each transaction. 
    We had 26 fees, and this does include loans. It also includes 11 for resigning of existing players such as Phillips, Lapslie, Pearce and Pratley. 
    To be fair it is important that some of these, particularly the youngsters need advice, and a fee should be paid. some amounts must be way over the top. £49m for Championship, £263m for premier, £4m for League 1, £1m for League 2 and over £300k for non-league teams!

    http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/intermediaries/intermediaries-transactions
    If you add up the total you can see just how much the amounts are over the top. £300m gouged out of the game and for what? For sure young players need advice, which could be offered by a team working jointly for the FA and the PFA. 
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,851
    Stoke nearly £6m in a year on agents fees. Blimey
    @bobmunro is worth every penny of that annual bonus wage


  • PopIcon
    PopIcon Posts: 5,970
    edited June 2020
    That is really grim reading, Premier League clubs alone pay over a quarter of billion pounds annually to agents. Intermediaries brokering deals across the top four English leagues make a combined total of £317 million.
    FIFA need to regulate agents or introduce a separate body that self-regulates. Licensed Agents; CHECK, Code of conduct; CHECK, Capped fees; CHECK. 

    The Government would never recommend such an incentive, HMRC make a colossal amount of money through the PL.
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,851
    edited June 2020
    PopIcon said:
    That is really grim reading, Premier League clubs alone pay over a quarter of billion pounds annually to agents. Intermediaries brokering deals across the top four English leagues make a combined total of £317 million pounds.
    FIFA need to regulate agents or introduce a separate body that self regulates. Licensed Agents; CHECK, Code of conduct; CHECK, Capped fees; CHECK. 

    The Government would never recommend such an incentive, HMRC make a colossal amount of money through the PL.


    FIFA were set to approve the draft regulations at a meeting yesterday - not sure what the outcome was. These will come in to force next September.



  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,030
    edited June 2020
    £49M - It is an absolute disgrace that these scumbags are pillaging our game. In the grand scheme of things agents contribute precisely zero to the game of football.  Whatever benefits they bring in one area are simply taken from somewhere else. Shuffling the player pack is a zero sum game. I hate these fuckers poncing a bloody good living whilst people who contribute significantly to society are paid a pittance. That football agents even exist is a clear indicator that there is something wrong with our society.
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    The best and quickest change they could make would be for players to pay their agents, not clubs.

    It should then be illegal for an agent to ask or accept any money directly from any club and for any club or official of a club to make payments to agents.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,299
    Redrobo said:
    The best and quickest change they could make would be for players to pay their agents, not clubs.

    It should then be illegal for an agent to ask or accept any money directly from any club and for any club or official of a club to make payments to agents.
    I could've sworn this has been proposed before - around the time of the whole Tevez thing maybe? Presumably it never gets anywhere cos the big clubs feel it gives them an advantage somehow.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,263
    Redrobo said:
    The best and quickest change they could make would be for players to pay their agents, not clubs.

    It should then be illegal for an agent to ask or accept any money directly from any club and for any club or official of a club to make payments to agents.
    If players pay the agents their wage demands would just increase to cover it.