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Andre Green released by Villa
BartramBlitz
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Good news for us even if he goes elsewhere as he is playing for a contract. Would you sign him or has he not proved himself yet?
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Quite surprised actually, if Villa went down he could surely do a job for them in the ChampionshipBartramBlitz said:Good news for us even if he goes elsewhere as he is playing for a contract. Would you sign him or has he not proved himself yet?
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Definitely good to have a loan player playing for his future13 -
We've got pretty much close to no chance of signing him but it'd be a great free transfer1
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Trickle down effect. I think there is close to zero chance villa would have released him, and some of the others, before they knew what division they would be in next season. In normal times.scruffle said:We've got pretty much close to no chance of signing him but it'd be a great free transfer
There are going to be dozens, if not 100s, of out of contract players who could "do a job" in the championship next season. You also have to factor league 1 teams are releasing some players they never normally would because they now can't afford thier wages.
Player wages are going to nose dive, more than ever. I still think Taylor will get a "set for life" contract, but will be on a lot less than he thought 12 weeks ago.
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Jury is out for me. He started quite well but disappeared bit as the season wore on. Possibly was carrying a knock though and morale was ebbing away too. Will be interesting to see if he picks up again now the mood in the camp seems to have been somewhat rejuvenated by the break. If his form picks up, I'd be after him on a free transfer. If it's more of the immediately pre-lockdown anonymity then it'd be a pass from me.3
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Villa, meanwhile, have confirmed Ross McCormack's contract has formally expired after an ill-fated four years which materialised into just 23 appearances and three goals after the Scot's £12m transfer from Fulham in 2016.
I forgot about him. He was a good player.3 -
That's not necessarily true about Lyle. It depends on where he ends up going and who else is interested in signing him. As a free transfer he is going to be in demand and strikers will always demand a premium.Cafc43v3r said:
Trickle down effect. I think there is close to zero chance villa would have released him, and some of the others, before they knew what division they would be in next season. In normal times.scruffle said:We've got pretty much close to no chance of signing him but it'd be a great free transfer
There are going to be dozens, if not 100s, of out of contract players who could "do a job" in the championship next season. You also have to factor league 1 teams are releasing some players they never normally would because they now can't afford thier wages.
Player wages are going to nose dive, more than ever. I still think Taylor will get a "set for life" contract, but will be on a lot less than he thought 12 weeks ago.0 -
Amazed they have let him go with them still being relegation threatened. I would expect his wages to be too high even in this economy - would be a great signing though0
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I think he injured his knee after the bright start and was managing it. Hopefully he's fit nowExiled_Addick said:Jury is out for me. He started quite well but disappeared bit as the season wore on. Possibly was carrying a knock though and morale was ebbing away too. Will be interesting to see if he picks up again now the mood in the camp seems to have been somewhat rejuvenated by the break. If his form picks up, I'd be after him on a free transfer. If it's more of the immediately pre-lockdown anonymity then it'd be a pass from me.0 -
Remind me, how tall is he?2
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I thought he was released last June? He will be 34 in August and hasn't kicked a ball for anyone in 20 months.Stewart said:Villa, meanwhile, have confirmed Ross McCormack's contract has formally expired after an ill-fated four years which materialised into just 23 appearances and three goals after the Scot's £12m transfer from Fulham in 2016.
I forgot about him. He was a good player.0 - Sponsored links:
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Will he be playing for a contract or playing to stay injury free? Who knows.
Poor man's Leko though.0 -
Agree with the last sentence. Not sure I would sign either, but Leko is the better player.Athletico Charlton said:Will he be playing for a contract or playing to stay injury free? Who knows.
Poor man's Leko though.0 -
Whether a club thinks he is a premium worthy striker may be determined by how many goals Lyle scored after coming back from injury; and whether it was really true he was worried about getting injured in the last period of his contractsuperclive98 said:
That's not necessarily true about Lyle. It depends on where he ends up going and who else is interested in signing him. As a free transfer he is going to be in demand and strikers will always demand a premium.Cafc43v3r said:
Trickle down effect. I think there is close to zero chance villa would have released him, and some of the others, before they knew what division they would be in next season. In normal times.scruffle said:We've got pretty much close to no chance of signing him but it'd be a great free transfer
There are going to be dozens, if not 100s, of out of contract players who could "do a job" in the championship next season. You also have to factor league 1 teams are releasing some players they never normally would because they now can't afford thier wages.
Player wages are going to nose dive, more than ever. I still think Taylor will get a "set for life" contract, but will be on a lot less than he thought 12 weeks ago.0 -
I’d sign him if he’ll come.Only 21, he can contribute to a play off chasing squad at this level (Villa 18-19) and will only continue to improve. Besides that, being young and English, his resale value would be excellent if he can fulfil his potential.That’s how you build a squad properly instead of relying on loans year after year.18
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In Bowyer (and Gallen) we trust. They saw something that piqued interest enough to sign him loan, if they think he's good enough to sign permanently I will trust that judgment, if he's not impressed in training etc so be it.
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Quick and strong but he isn’t a natural , I’d take him in league one but would prefer Leko in championship , all that is based on us having normal owners with a bit of dough .... well that isn’t happening so we’ll take what we can get whatever league we’re in .1
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I'd sign him up. Get him now and maybe get him cheap due to providing him a security blanket. It just depends on how much he wants. But the pedigree is there. And he's still young, consistency will come.
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he seems to be able to beat a man on the outside and get a cross in which is a key reqt for a wide man / forward and not all can so that's certainly a good starting point but probably needs to become more consistent and show more more influence in games before we commit to anything - as has been said, jury still out1
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I think, with the transfer embargo in place, they had to take what they could get so we can't assume he was one they would have gone for under normal circumstances - yes, I know nothing at Charlton has been 'normal' for many a year, but you know what I mean.thenewbie said:In Bowyer (and Gallen) we trust. They saw something that piqued interest enough to sign him loan, if they think he's good enough to sign permanently I will trust that judgment, if he's not impressed in training etc so be it.2 -
Hope we see more of him this season, he’s looked very exciting so far.1
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I’m really not sure, Leko has some good natural abilities but is waaaay too unpredictable at the moment. I would say Leko has greater potential, but I don’t think he’s a better player than Green today.golfaddick said:
Agree with the last sentence. Not sure I would sign either, but Leko is the better player.Athletico Charlton said:Will he be playing for a contract or playing to stay injury free? Who knows.
Poor man's Leko though.2 -
Would definitely take Green permanently. He'll be 22 in a month, I'm actually really surprised at how young he is. He's scored two goals for us while learning on the job with no lead up, and playing in a team pretty bereft of confidence and shorn of its best players. People compare him to Leko a lot but forget that Leko had a lot more playing time and wasn't exactly winning hearts at the start. Green has moved between playing up front and out wide as Bowyer has experimented and scored 2 goals for us in his first 4 games; Leko on the other hand took 9 games to score two goals. He scored on his fifth game for us, Green on his second. Leko ended up with 5 goals in 21 appearances, including scoring in three games in a row when he hit a good patch, Green has 2 in 11. I do think Leko had adapted to his new role better over time but there's clearly potential in Green, he seems to be willing to learn from Bowyer and he works hard. Plus I get the feeling Bowyer will get more wide men in over the summer as he looks to be wanting to play with more width, so Green would be well suited for that. If he wants to come and we can offer him a deal he'll take then we'd be nuts not to snap him up.
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A no brainer if we can get him on a free.2
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Green would storm league one so it is a yes from me.5
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I think people are being slightly overly critical of him on here. Don’t forget Leko played alongside Taylor, Gallagher, Williams and Cullen. So far Green has played with our youth team and done pretty well considering. (Seemed to have a particularly good link up with Doughty). No doubting he is championship quality and with his age and Bowyer’s fondness for his style of player, he would be a brilliant signing for next year. Think it would be good for him too as he’d guarantee himself game time and give himself a platform to earn a bigger money move in 18 months to 2 years.5
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Really rate him, doesn't have Leko's magic moments but does seem to have a lot of consistency - always think that's one of the most important attributes for an attacking player, esp out wide.0
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I think he would be worth signing but it doesn’t matter what I think or anybody else on this site, it’s whether the gang of three think they want him in their plans for next season.2
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I might be wrong but when we signed Green didnt Bowyer say that he was more used to playing out wide and would have to get used to playing up front in the role that Leko was playing?
If so then its definitely worth remembering that Andre's performances are coming from a player out of position effectively
As a result we may well choose to go after other targets and so try for round pegs in round holes rather than signing a player because there are no other options2 -
If wages were agreeable he would be a great free transfer. You’ve got to hope he feels settled with us and maybe we could do a “Jonny Williams” type agreement and get a year out of him.
if Leko were available (ie if WBA get promoted) I’d take him in a heartbeat as those two would be young, English and would terrorise championship defences.Both players are likely to improve3 -
Certainly worth signing but I expect he would be out of the question on our wage budget.1
