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Conceding a goal just after HT and just before FT
mendonca
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We nearly did it again! This made me think of one for the stattos out there. How many goals have we conceded this season say from 45-50mins and 88-90mins +?
Would be an interesting stat, especially to see the translation into points.
Would be an interesting stat, especially to see the translation into points.
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100% of the goals we concede come at the wrong time11
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Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:
Huddersfield Town (A) - Two Goals - Cost us nothing
Huddersfield Town (H) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Sheffield Wednesday (H) - One Goal - Cost us nothing
Sheffield Wednesday (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Hull City (H) - One Goal - Cost us two points
Millwall (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Bristol City (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Goals conceded in the 46th min
West Brom (H) - One Goal - We still earnt a point
Bristol City (H) - One Goal - We still won
So if we hadnt conceded at the death in those games we'd have a further six points3 -
Hull at home cost us 2 points didn’t it?ForeverAddickted said:Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:Huddersfield Town (A) - Two Goals - Cost us nothingHuddersfield Town (H) - One Goal - Cost us one pointSheffield Wednesday (H) & (A) - One Goal - Cost us nothingHull City (H) - One Goal - Cost us three pointsMillwall (A) - One Goal - Cost us one pointBristol City (A) - One Goal - Cost us one pointGoals conceded in the 46th minWest Brom (H) - One Goal - We still earnt a pointBristol City (H) - One Goal - We still won5 -
We've also gained five points from scoring around those times in a match though:
So you could say it evens itself out
Scoring in the 90th min
West Brom (A) - Gained a point
Queens Park Rangers (A) - Gained a point
Scoring in the 45th / 46th min
Barnsley (H) - Gained three points6 -
Of course it did, thank you have amended my postse9addick said:
Hull at home cost us 2 points didn’t it?ForeverAddickted said:Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:Huddersfield Town (A) - Two Goals - Cost us nothingHuddersfield Town (H) - One Goal - Cost us one pointSheffield Wednesday (H) & (A) - One Goal - Cost us nothingHull City (H) - One Goal - Cost us three pointsMillwall (A) - One Goal - Cost us one pointBristol City (A) - One Goal - Cost us one pointGoals conceded in the 46th minWest Brom (H) - One Goal - We still earnt a pointBristol City (H) - One Goal - We still won0 -
Thanks all. It's felt a lot worse over the course of the season. Maybe alongside the depleted squad, just felt like one nail after another.1
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And possibly crucially, gave Huddersfield 2 extra points, Hull an extra point, Sheff Wed 2 extra points.ForeverAddickted said:Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:
Huddersfield Town (A) - Two Goals - Cost us nothing
Huddersfield Town (H) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Sheffield Wednesday (H) - One Goal - Cost us nothing
Sheffield Wednesday (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Hull City (H) - One Goal - Cost us two points
Millwall (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Bristol City (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Goals conceded in the 46th min
West Brom (H) - One Goal - We still earnt a point
Bristol City (H) - One Goal - We still won
So if we hadnt conceded at the death in those games we'd have a further six points5 -
Statistically nearly every team will concede most goals in the last ten minutes . That's when most goals are scored.3
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And already be 13th in the table, on 51 points ..... safety almost guaranteed.ForeverAddickted said:Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:
So if we hadnt conceded at the death in those games we'd have a further six points
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And then take off the five points we gained ourselves in similar circumstances...Oggy Red said:
And already be 13th in the table, on 51 points ..... safety almost guaranteed.ForeverAddickted said:Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:
So if we hadnt conceded at the death in those games we'd have a further six points1 -
And the table would read:Simonsen said:
And possibly crucially, gave Huddersfield 2 extra points, Hull an extra point, Sheff Wed 2 extra points.ForeverAddickted said:Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:
Huddersfield Town (A) - Two Goals - Cost us nothing
Huddersfield Town (H) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Sheffield Wednesday (H) - One Goal - Cost us nothing
Sheffield Wednesday (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Hull City (H) - One Goal - Cost us two points
Millwall (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Bristol City (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Goals conceded in the 46th min
West Brom (H) - One Goal - We still earnt a point
Bristol City (H) - One Goal - We still won
So if we hadnt conceded at the death in those games we'd have a further six points
CAFC ............13th - 51pts
QPR ..............14th - 50
Reading ........15th - 49
Brum ............ 16th - 49
Sheff Weds ... 17th - 47
Wigan .......... 18th - 47
Boro ..............19th - 44
Stoke .............20th - 43
Hull .............. 21st - 41
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Huddersfield..22nd - 40
Luton .............23rd - 39
Barnsley..........24th - 38
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No, no, no. That would spoil the illusion.ForeverAddickted said:
And then take off the five points we gained ourselves in similar circumstances...Oggy Red said:
And already be 13th in the table, on 51 points ..... safety almost guaranteed.ForeverAddickted said:Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:
So if we hadnt conceded at the death in those games we'd have a further six points
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Regardless we'd still be six points above HuddersfieldOggy Red said:
No, no, no. That would spoil the illusion.ForeverAddickted said:
And then take off the five points we gained ourselves in similar circumstances...Oggy Red said:
And already be 13th in the table, on 51 points ..... safety almost guaranteed.ForeverAddickted said:Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:
So if we hadnt conceded at the death in those games we'd have a further six points0 -
lets not apply the same rule to all other teams...Oggy Red said:
And the table would read:Simonsen said:
And possibly crucially, gave Huddersfield 2 extra points, Hull an extra point, Sheff Wed 2 extra points.ForeverAddickted said:Goals conceded in the 90th min or later:
Huddersfield Town (A) - Two Goals - Cost us nothing
Huddersfield Town (H) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Sheffield Wednesday (H) - One Goal - Cost us nothing
Sheffield Wednesday (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Hull City (H) - One Goal - Cost us two points
Millwall (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Bristol City (A) - One Goal - Cost us one point
Goals conceded in the 46th min
West Brom (H) - One Goal - We still earnt a point
Bristol City (H) - One Goal - We still won
So if we hadnt conceded at the death in those games we'd have a further six points
CAFC ............13th - 51pts
QPR ..............14th - 50
Reading ........15th - 49
Brum ............ 16th - 49
Sheff Weds ... 17th - 47
Wigan .......... 18th - 47
Boro ..............19th - 44
Stoke .............20th - 43
Hull .............. 21st - 41
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Huddersfield..22nd - 40
Luton .............23rd - 39
Barnsley..........24th - 38
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Absolutely not.
This is purely a rose tinted specs moment, of course!
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I've focused on the natural teams that have been at the bottom this season
Goals that I've counted are only those scored in the 45th min (so right before Half time) | 46th min (right after HT) | 90th min (FT) e.g. I've not counted Lyle's 89th min equaliser @ Barnsley
I've of course ignored any last minute goals that havent contributed to the outcome of the game e.g. Huddersfield's two goals against us as they'd already won the game
Interesting when you compare us with other teams that its not just Charlton that have suffered with goals scored at the death, but we are the only team that struggles right after HT
Ironic that both Charlton and Wigan are the worst teams for conceding at the end of games but are the highest in the table
Barnsley: Scored: 4 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 2-pts); should have 3-less points
Luton Town: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 3 (Lost 5-pts); should have 0-pts
Huddersfield Town: Scored: 2 (Gained them 4-pts) - Conceded: 0 (Lost 0-pts); should have 4-less points
Hull City: Scored: 3 (Gained them 3-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 3-pts); should have 0-pts
Stoke City: Scored: 4 (Gained them 7-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 5-less points
Middlesbrough: Scored: 0 (Gained them 0-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 2-more points
Wigan Athletic: Scored: 1 (Gained them 1-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 5-more points
Charlton Athletic: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 1-more points
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You busy mate?ForeverAddickted said:I've focused on the natural teams that have been at the bottom this season
Goals that I've counted are only those scored in the 45th min (so right before Half time) | 46th min (right after HT) | 90th min (FT) e.g. I've not counted Lyle's 89th min equaliser @ Barnsley
I've of course ignored any last minute goals that havent contributed to the outcome of the game e.g. Huddersfield's two goals against us as they'd already won the game
Interesting when you compare us with other teams that its not just Charlton that have suffered with goals scored at the death, but we are the only team that struggles right after HT
Ironic that both Charlton and Wigan are the worst teams for conceding at the end of games but are the highest in the table
Barnsley: Scored: 4 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 2-pts); should have 3-less points
Luton Town: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 3 (Lost 5-pts); should have 0-pts
Huddersfield Town: Scored: 2 (Gained them 4-pts) - Conceded: 0 (Lost 0-pts); should have 4-less points
Hull City: Scored: 3 (Gained them 3-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 3-pts); should have 0-pts
Stoke City: Scored: 4 (Gained them 7-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 5-less points
Middlesbrough: Scored: 0 (Gained them 0-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 2-more points
Wigan Athletic: Scored: 1 (Gained them 1-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 5-more points
Charlton Athletic: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 1-more points
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Ran off me feetOff_it said:
You busy mate?ForeverAddickted said:I've focused on the natural teams that have been at the bottom this season
Goals that I've counted are only those scored in the 45th min (so right before Half time) | 46th min (right after HT) | 90th min (FT) e.g. I've not counted Lyle's 89th min equaliser @ Barnsley
I've of course ignored any last minute goals that havent contributed to the outcome of the game e.g. Huddersfield's two goals against us as they'd already won the game
Interesting when you compare us with other teams that its not just Charlton that have suffered with goals scored at the death, but we are the only team that struggles right after HT
Ironic that both Charlton and Wigan are the worst teams for conceding at the end of games but are the highest in the table
Barnsley: Scored: 4 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 2-pts); should have 3-less points
Luton Town: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 3 (Lost 5-pts); should have 0-pts
Huddersfield Town: Scored: 2 (Gained them 4-pts) - Conceded: 0 (Lost 0-pts); should have 4-less points
Hull City: Scored: 3 (Gained them 3-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 3-pts); should have 0-pts
Stoke City: Scored: 4 (Gained them 7-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 5-less points
Middlesbrough: Scored: 0 (Gained them 0-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 2-more points
Wigan Athletic: Scored: 1 (Gained them 1-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 5-more points
Charlton Athletic: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 1-more points
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Wigan for the first couple of months of the season were regularly "throwing away" points at the end of games, I remember the Quest EFL highlighting this. They completely turned their season around since thenForeverAddickted said:I've focused on the natural teams that have been at the bottom this season
Goals that I've counted are only those scored in the 45th min (so right before Half time) | 46th min (right after HT) | 90th min (FT) e.g. I've not counted Lyle's 89th min equaliser @ Barnsley
I've of course ignored any last minute goals that havent contributed to the outcome of the game e.g. Huddersfield's two goals against us as they'd already won the game
Interesting when you compare us with other teams that its not just Charlton that have suffered with goals scored at the death, but we are the only team that struggles right after HT
Ironic that both Charlton and Wigan are the worst teams for conceding at the end of games but are the highest in the table
Barnsley: Scored: 4 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 2-pts); should have 3-less points
Luton Town: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 3 (Lost 5-pts); should have 0-pts
Huddersfield Town: Scored: 2 (Gained them 4-pts) - Conceded: 0 (Lost 0-pts); should have 4-less points
Hull City: Scored: 3 (Gained them 3-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 3-pts); should have 0-pts
Stoke City: Scored: 4 (Gained them 7-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 5-less points
Middlesbrough: Scored: 0 (Gained them 0-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 2-more points
Wigan Athletic: Scored: 1 (Gained them 1-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 5-more points
Charlton Athletic: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 1-more points1 - Sponsored links:
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Yeah last time they suffered from a 90th min goal was against Derby on Boxing Daykillerandflash said:
Wigan for the first couple of months of the season were regularly "throwing away" points at the end of games, I remember the Quest EFL highlighting this. They completely turned their season around since thenForeverAddickted said:I've focused on the natural teams that have been at the bottom this season
Goals that I've counted are only those scored in the 45th min (so right before Half time) | 46th min (right after HT) | 90th min (FT) e.g. I've not counted Lyle's 89th min equaliser @ Barnsley
I've of course ignored any last minute goals that havent contributed to the outcome of the game e.g. Huddersfield's two goals against us as they'd already won the game
Interesting when you compare us with other teams that its not just Charlton that have suffered with goals scored at the death, but we are the only team that struggles right after HT
Ironic that both Charlton and Wigan are the worst teams for conceding at the end of games but are the highest in the table
Barnsley: Scored: 4 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 2-pts); should have 3-less points
Luton Town: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 3 (Lost 5-pts); should have 0-pts
Huddersfield Town: Scored: 2 (Gained them 4-pts) - Conceded: 0 (Lost 0-pts); should have 4-less points
Hull City: Scored: 3 (Gained them 3-pts) - Conceded: 2 (Lost 3-pts); should have 0-pts
Stoke City: Scored: 4 (Gained them 7-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 5-less points
Middlesbrough: Scored: 0 (Gained them 0-pts) - Conceded: 1 (Lost 2-pts); should have 2-more points
Wigan Athletic: Scored: 1 (Gained them 1-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 5-more points
Charlton Athletic: Scored: 3 (Gained them 5-pts) - Conceded: 5 (Lost 6-pts); should have 1-more points0 -
Since Paul Cook took over I think the goals against is dramatic
Completely wrong thanks to FA below0 -
Paul Cook has been in charge at Wigan for a few years nowross1 said:Since Paul Cook took over I think the goals against is dramatic0 -
Quite right FA, heard him being interviewed yesterday and was being congratulated how he has succeeded in getting 6 (I think) clean sheets in a row, and how he has turned the team around and wrongly presumed he had recently took over. Laziness my only excuse and I did not check informationForeverAddickted said:
Paul Cook has been in charge at Wigan for a few years nowross1 said:Since Paul Cook took over I think the goals against is dramatic1 -
Really don’t get the point of these threads - we won we didn’t concede any it’s like shutting the door after the horse has bolted.0
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As back as it is conceding goals just after half time, but some of those were when we took took centre after second half.0
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That's true and also I remember it feeling that many of the goals conceded were last kick of the game, hence Bows funny rants about injury time.0
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I’m wondering if the seemingly high number of goals in the last ten minutes is mainly due to the fact that the ‘last ten minutes’ is nearer 15 minutes with additional time. Additional time is usually low in the first half as there are few substitutions, injuries and less time wasting. The outlier is, therefore, probably 51-60 mins.LouisMend said:0 -
But we didn't concede at all in either game since the return so far.mendonca said:We nearly did it again! This made me think of one for the stattos out there. How many goals have we conceded this season say from 45-50mins and 88-90mins +?
Would be an interesting stat, especially to see the translation into points.0 -
2 wins and clean sheets on the bounce. No complaints. Just seeing the teams around us pulling wins out of the bag made me think back to Pre CV games.1
