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Bowyer Going?
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30th FebMendonca In Asdas said:I know I’m clutching at straws here, but is there an official date for a verdict on Chef Weds outcome?5 -
I 100% think JJ would take the Charlton rather than leave with Bowyer.Heard him telling Pratley on a train that he sees his future at Charlton, and turned down signing for another club so he could stay. He’s learned the ropes from LB, so he might be offered his dream job, albeit with the surrounding turmoil.1
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@Redhenry had anything to say on this yet?1
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These criminals don't own the club so pretty sure they won't be able to sell anyoneDONVANVLIET said:Any truth in the rumour that Lee has already informed the players that he is going and that Dillon has already been sold to keep the club afloat?0 -
Fishing lake in France is looking for a new managerMuttleyCAFC said:There is the question about being offered a suitably attractive job elsewhere first.0 -
Wouldn't waste your time mate, it's not going to happenMendonca In Asdas said:I know I’m clutching at straws here, but is there an official date for a verdict on Chef Weds outcome?0 -
Bowyer is gone , for sure ... he would be mad to stay...
as is every asset that we have... we are an utterly broken club... no money, maniac in charge, a team of conmen having raped us, all queing up to do it again if possible.
no income, no crowds...
It's utterly, totally and fully F****** F***** mate...
And as fans we are exhausted and have no recourse, no clear action, bar illegal ones...
So, I'm incredibly optimistic about next year, we will piss it in.
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The only thing that could potentially keep him here is he has a decent contract for another 3 years. His contract might put other clubs off him as they'd have to pay compensation, and with money tight for clubs now and a lot of out of work managers about, he may well get overlooked.mascot88 said:Bowyer is gone , for sure ... he would be mad to stay...
as is every asset that we have... we are an utterly broken club... no money, maniac in charge, a team of conmen having raped us, all queing up to do it again if possible.
no income, no crowds...
It's utterly, totally and fully F****** F***** mate...
And as fans we are exhausted and have no recourse, no clear action, bar illegal ones...
So, I'm incredibly optimistic about next year, we will piss it in.
Might actually do us a favour if he gets overlooked for other championship jobs. Chris Hughton is rumoured to be getting the Bristol City job. Karanka is linked with the Birmingham job.
Once he's calmed down, had a holiday and had a think, he might decide if there are no other alternatives right now, that he won't walk away from us. The only problem is, i'm sure he doesn't need the money or the hassle.2 -
It would not surprise me in the least if Bowyer goes but would love him to stay. I believe he is a Charlton man and, while I have been critical of some of his decisions over the past season, having an opinion is what fan forums are about.
I certainly believe the pros outweigh the cons. Please stay LB.
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Boardroom stability might go a long way towards him staying.0
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Haven't heard anything yet, but i'm sure he'll be going..carly burn said:@Redhenry had anything to say on this yet?6 -
Of course Bowyer is going1
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Good luck lee, what you achieved with both arms tied behind your back was incredible....bit of luck this season we would have survived.....will be a bloddy lot easier to stay in the championship next season than get out league 1.1
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Why ? No one in their right mind would stay at a club where you can’t sign players or offer contracts. He is part of Bowyers back room team now. So they will both go when they are offered the opportunity to not work for conmen. Hope he/they return one day ...ShootersHillGuru said:I think Jackson would remain.0 -
Sums it up for me. Great post.Redrobo said:Bowyer is the only link we the fans have had with the club, and has been since he took over.The fantastic support home and away has been because Bowyer was our manager. Players and fans were all on his journey.
I will be more gutted if he leaves than I was at being relegated.3 -
Imagine the job staring him in the face. To come back into work, with half the team leaving, unable to sign a single player, starting back in the league you just got out of... Knowing that every day is going to be a battle... And that you're a well-rated young manager who could easily find a job elsewhere.
Goodbye, LB. Hope you're back some day.8 -
A slightly different perspective on the subject as I tried to get off to sleep last night...
I believe that Bow had no plans to enter the management side of the game until he was invited to take a look by Robinson.
Clearly he was bitten by the bug and liked what he saw when he renewed his relationship with his former club.
No need to explain the 2 way love story that soon developed but I question whether this scenario was uppermost in his mind when he popped into SE7 once again.
I,m not totally convinced that he,d have stepped up to take the somewhat poisoned chalice at any old club.
He,s now been well and truly immersed into football management but has this topsy turvy experience in far from normal circumstances increased his interest and desire for more or indeed is he already making plans to return to his Lake and a less stressful life?
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Would be curious to see how Jackson does if he is the man to replace Bowyer, especially as there are a few question marks about our defending and set pieces at times (arent they his remit?)
The biggest factor, even if Gallen stays, is the fact that Johnnie doesnt have the name in Football that Bowyer does
He's the reason we've been able to make some of the signings as his reputation proceeds him, was potentially the same with Chris Powell
Jackson on the other hand doesnt really have that same advantage1 -
Bowyer shouldn't be underestimated; in a sense he must have enjoyed the challenge of pitting his wits against managers with more experience and bigger budgets.Fanny Fanackapan said:A slightly different perspective on the subject as I tried to get off to sleep last night...
I believe that Bow had no plans to enter the management side of the game until he was invited to take a look by Robinson.
Clearly he was bitten by the bug and liked what he saw when he renewed his relationship with his former club.
No need to explain the 2 way love story that soon developed but I question whether this scenario was uppermost in his mind when he popped into SE7 once again.
I,m not totally convinced that he,d have stepped up to take the somewhat poisoned chalice at any old club.
He,s now been well and truly immersed into football management but has this topsy turvy experience in far from normal circumstances increased his interest and desire for more or indeed is he already making plans to return to his Lake and a less stressful life?
Retiring to his fishing lakes just isn't in character. He is a fighter, and has ambitions to do well as a manager. Unfortunately, it's highly unlikely to be with us.
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There is no evidence whatsoever that Jackson has the strength of character or tactical ability to be a successful manager. I would be deeply sceptical about appointing him. Middlesbrough sacked former-player Woodgate when all looked doomed - and the wise old troubleshooter Warnock kept them up.ForeverAddickted said:Would be curious to see how Jackson does if he is the man to replace Bowyer, especially as there are a few question marks about our defending and set pieces at times (arent they his remit?)
The biggest factor, even if Gallen stays, is the fact that Johnnie doesnt have the name in Football that Bowyer does
He's the reason we've been able to make some of the signings as his reputation proceeds him, was potentially the same with Chris Powell
Jackson on the other hand doesnt really have that same advantage
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If the Barclay/Varney thing happens, I can see him staying. This is going to have to happen quickly as he ain’t gonna hang around if these jokers still have their grubby paws on our club.4
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Because Bowyer was clearly identified as having the strength of character and tactical ability to be a successful manager.Viewfinder said:
There is no evidence whatsoever that Jackson has the strength of character or tactical ability to be a successful manager. I would be deeply sceptical about appointing him. Middlesbrough sacked former-player Woodgate when all looked doomed - and the wise old troubleshooter Warnock kept them up.ForeverAddickted said:Would be curious to see how Jackson does if he is the man to replace Bowyer, especially as there are a few question marks about our defending and set pieces at times (arent they his remit?)
The biggest factor, even if Gallen stays, is the fact that Johnnie doesnt have the name in Football that Bowyer does
He's the reason we've been able to make some of the signings as his reputation proceeds him, was potentially the same with Chris Powell
Jackson on the other hand doesnt really have that same advantage
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Or Curbishley or Powell...Dazzler21 said:
Because Bowyer was clearly identified as having the strength of character and tactical ability to be a successful manager.Viewfinder said:
There is no evidence whatsoever that Jackson has the strength of character or tactical ability to be a successful manager. I would be deeply sceptical about appointing him. Middlesbrough sacked former-player Woodgate when all looked doomed - and the wise old troubleshooter Warnock kept them up.ForeverAddickted said:Would be curious to see how Jackson does if he is the man to replace Bowyer, especially as there are a few question marks about our defending and set pieces at times (arent they his remit?)
The biggest factor, even if Gallen stays, is the fact that Johnnie doesnt have the name in Football that Bowyer does
He's the reason we've been able to make some of the signings as his reputation proceeds him, was potentially the same with Chris Powell
Jackson on the other hand doesnt really have that same advantage
Every "proven" manager we've had since Curbs has been a flop!!6 -
I hate to say it, but this is an important point when people rubbish our managers in their first managerial jobs...ForeverAddickted said:
Or Curbishley or Powell...Dazzler21 said:
Because Bowyer was clearly identified as having the strength of character and tactical ability to be a successful manager.Viewfinder said:
There is no evidence whatsoever that Jackson has the strength of character or tactical ability to be a successful manager. I would be deeply sceptical about appointing him. Middlesbrough sacked former-player Woodgate when all looked doomed - and the wise old troubleshooter Warnock kept them up.ForeverAddickted said:Would be curious to see how Jackson does if he is the man to replace Bowyer, especially as there are a few question marks about our defending and set pieces at times (arent they his remit?)
The biggest factor, even if Gallen stays, is the fact that Johnnie doesnt have the name in Football that Bowyer does
He's the reason we've been able to make some of the signings as his reputation proceeds him, was potentially the same with Chris Powell
Jackson on the other hand doesnt really have that same advantage
Every "proven" manager we've had since Curbs has been a flop!!2 -
As a player, Jackson captained us to relegation to the third tier. That season was far more dismal than this. He openly said the fault lay with him and the players, not Duchatelet.
Folk on this forum want him as manager because he is 'Mr Charlton'. That is sentimental nonsense. We should do far better than that.
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Pochettino maybe?Viewfinder said:As a player, Jackson captained us to relegation to the third tier. That season was far more dismal than this. He openly said the fault lay with him and the players, not Duchatelet.
Folk on this forum want him as manager because he is 'Mr Charlton'. That is sentimental nonsense. We should do far better than that.13 -
The sensible thing to do for Jackson would be leave if given the chance to depart with Bowyer but life is not always about sensible. Jackson wants to manage. We know that. He wants to manage Charlton. We know that too. I’m fairly confident that if the club is still around and Bowyer has gone then JJ will be very firm favourite to take the job. He’s settled in this neck of the woods and despite what might or might not be sensible I think that if Lee is off then our next manager will be Johnnie Jackson.Ducktapeshoerepairs said:
Why ? No one in their right mind would stay at a club where you can’t sign players or offer contracts. He is part of Bowyers back room team now. So they will both go when they are offered the opportunity to not work for conmen. Hope he/they return one day ...ShootersHillGuru said:I think Jackson would remain.2 -
Put yourself in LB's shoes. I've worked for companies that, for whatever reason, I have liked, but if a company was unstable and I was offered a way out, I would take it. So we can only hope that the ownership issues are resolved before a better offer comes in.
It also comes down to what kind of team he is going to be able to assemble? You spend a lot of time at work - it's a lot easier with a decent team to work with. Does he want to be battling relegation with an uncompetitive team again next season?0 -
What a weird point to make.Viewfinder said:As a player, Jackson captained us to relegation to the third tier. That season was far more dismal than this. He openly said the fault lay with him and the players, not Duchatelet.
Folk on this forum want him as manager because he is 'Mr Charlton'. That is sentimental nonsense. We should do far better than that.
So by your logic, any player that has had a relegation in their career clearly isn’t up to managing? Have a day off.14
