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Sheff Weds Decision 12 points Next season
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Wouldn't surprise me. Funny how both Farnell AND Parkes have been very confident this week that Elliott will pass the EFL tests. It's as if they know something. ...SELR_addicks said:Wonder if Farnell will offer the EFL a deal, letting our dodgy owners sneak through as long as we drop any potential legal action against them...0 -
Farnell see an opportunity to bill some more legal fees. Won't really try and win but sell another player to fund?ForeverAddickted said:Potential legal challenge coming from us...
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5f246dd981505/club-statement-sheffield-wednesday0 -
I don't think we'll get Legal Aid though.ForeverAddickted said:Potential legal challenge coming from us...
https://www.cafc.co.uk/news/view/5f246dd981505/club-statement-sheffield-wednesday0 -
So cheating is ok then?
I would be so embarrassed to be a fan of SW. They will be branded as cheats forever. They can never win anything and be proud as there is nothing as low in sport as a cheat.
And they have been found guilty of cheating.
The fact that the EFL do not consider cheating to be worthy of relegation just about sums them up. Their owner has spent a huge fortune setting up sham companies to cheat the system. No doubt many supporters across football will be wondering if any EFL officials will be having all expensive free holidays any day soon.4 -
This is absolutely perverse in the context of how the Wigan penalty applies. The ONLY reason for deferring a penalty to the next season is because applying it in current season when it is known it has no detrimental impact makes it a non penalty. If it will have a detrimental effect by relegating the club in current season it is applied.Derby for example would not care what penalty might be applied this year and it would be proper to defer to next season where it is guaranteed to have a negative impact.
This decision stinks.8 -
Farcical decision but to be expected with the crooked EFL, I didn't expect anything different.
I know our current owners (whoever they are) are shite but I do blindingly hope that we can build some kind of coalition with Barnsley and Wigan to challenge this decision.4 -
I think we need to take a step back and think what Sheffiled Wednesday have actually been found guilty of. We know they have been found guilty and that is important. Birmingham fell foul of FFP but alerted the EFL and got a 9 points deduction because they co-operated/owned up saying it was a mistake.
Sheff Wednesday tried to hide it in a stadium deal that was bought by a company that didn't exist when the deal was purported and recorded to be done. This is serious cheating on a unheard of scale. And they have been given an opportunity to potentially escape any punishment at all, when they could have been punished this season.8 -
I agree with the Muttley. They have potentially avoided any penalty at all with this decision. It should apply now as it should have months ago. Weak decision making, weak communication, weak transparency and I’m sick of having to roll with the never ending torrent of punches. Cheats will prosper it seems at the expense of Charlton.4
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The sad thing is if we had stayed up 95% of us wouldn't give a f@ck about sheff wed points deduction next season5
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12 points is a very lenient punishment as well, for what was basically fraud14
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To be honest, it is the credibility of the game more than any one club.3
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Probably best we don’t make a legal challenge, we’d more likely get a points deduction from them for a frivolous challenge.3
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Any legal action we take will take weeks and weeks to sort out. We'll end up starting next season possibly in the championship, with a dquad of 12 senior players and the rest out of the under 11's0
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This really is the season that's just keeps giving.9
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Bollox. I have hated cheats all my life. Cheating in sport is the lowest of the low. It is not about selfish interest, we need our game sorting out. I was so impressed with Barnsley owner calling them out and was supportive even though I was convinced we would stay up.clb74 said:The sad thing is if we had stayed up 95% of us wouldn't give a f@ck about sheff wed points deduction next season
I think most fans of all clubs hate a player who dives, gets a player sent off or handballs it into the net. We all hate cheats.7 -
Would be a good time to be in the championship next season with this and a Wycombe team who have done wonders but will surely struggle.0
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IF we had any proper ownership, IF we had any money, this should be taken to court, at least to the Sports Arbitration court, this is soooo wrong .. this will cost our club dearly and there is absolutely no excuse for the EFL taking so long before reaching this corrupt decision .. I am lost for words other than foul ones to carry on this post .. leave it at, bent, corrupt, theft, exploitation, favouritism, .. I hope all the EFL knobs who came to this decision come down with VERY heavy head colds that last for years, Fuck 'em .. it has put the survival of CAFC at risk and allows a 'bigger club' to get of lightly, I'll say again, at our expense .. SHAMEFUL10
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Yeah, we'd have had a great chance to stay up. It's a disasterJohnnyJoeyDeeDee said:Would be a good time to be in the championship next season with this and a Wycombe team who have done wonders but will surely struggle.0 -
I know it looks like we're the most hard done by with this decision but really it's Wigan. Imagine (you actually don't have to, this is real) being in a league that has limits on the amount of money clubs can lose in a given time period. One club can't even afford to continue and another spends well over the allowed amount. Guess which one is punished the most severely. Yep, the club that didn't have enough money.
Both clubs deserve to be docked points but it's an absolute disgrace that Sheffield Wednesday are given an extra year to turn this into an advantage, ensuring that the points deduction they suffer has minimal impact.
This is disgusting and Wigan should be the team leading the fight against this. Not us.11 -
Maybe this is what the Dubious Goals Committee does close season?Chris_from_Sidcup said:By the way for everyone blaming the EFL, the decision to deduct 12 points and do it next season is the decision of the independent disciplinary panel, not the EFL.1 - Sponsored links:
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KM the innocent party rides into Sheffield to save the day, while CF leaps to expose the wrongs of it all, both with PR companies behind them just in case they make a comment that could prove to be to their detriment - specialists in their own field of course.0
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Love that the wendies are saying it is sour grapes and we have nothing to complain about on their forum - they've been cheating for years and been given a get out of jail free card. Wouldn't it be nice if we had a decent owner who could actually sue them/the EFL.
This is a farcical decision in every way - surely there should be much bigger ramifications for commiting fraud than a 12 point deduction when it doesn't matter? Is fraud legally acceptable now or is there a criminal case to answer here?
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It is clearly not too bad a crime according to the EFL.0
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Didn’t the crime take place in the 17/18 season? Which would give Burton or Barnsley grounds to appeal, as they were the ones directly affected by Sheffield Wednesday’s cheating?MuttleyCAFC said:I think we need to take a step back and think what Sheffiled Wednesday have actually been found guilty of. We know they have been found guilty and that is important. Birmingham fell foul of FFP but alerted the EFL and got a 9 points deduction because they co-operated/owned up saying it was a mistake.
Sheff Wednesday tried to hide it in a stadium deal that was bought by a company that didn't exist when the deal was purported and recorded to be done. This is serious cheating on a unheard of scale. And they have been given an opportunity to potentially escape any punishment at all, when they could have been punished this season.7 -
Yes it would, but it didn't come to light then sadly. If you cheat in this way, you benefit and have an unfair advantage until you are punished.4
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Precisely why the punishment should be greater than Wigan'sMillwallFan said:
Didn’t the crime take place in the 17/18 season? Which would give Burton or Barnsley grounds to appeal, as they were the ones directly affected by Sheffield Wednesday’s cheating?MuttleyCAFC said:I think we need to take a step back and think what Sheffiled Wednesday have actually been found guilty of. We know they have been found guilty and that is important. Birmingham fell foul of FFP but alerted the EFL and got a 9 points deduction because they co-operated/owned up saying it was a mistake.
Sheff Wednesday tried to hide it in a stadium deal that was bought by a company that didn't exist when the deal was purported and recorded to be done. This is serious cheating on a unheard of scale. And they have been given an opportunity to potentially escape any punishment at all, when they could have been punished this season.11 -
I'm not worried. Charlton have said this afternoon they will consider legal action. We have a lawyer working at the club right now called Chris Farnell. He released a statement this very afternoon, the standard of which leads me to predict.....
We'll be playing Cray Wanderers next season.1 -
Can efl appeal the punishment if they don’t like it? (However doubtful).0
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Fuck the EFL 😡😡1
