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Sheff Weds Decision 12 points Next season
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I think the only bodies that can appeal it are Wednesday and the EFL. Seeing as Wednesday have appealed it, it is probably a good idea to pressure the EFL as they appealed Macclesfield and look what happened there. I think we can take legal action and an appeal by the EFL may mitigate this from their perspective.
It would also serve as a timely warning for other teams not to play silly buggers!1 -
ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.
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ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.We pulled up trees the start of last season with a weaker team, and whilst we have lost players like Taylor and Sarr - I would argue we’re roughly where we started last season , barring a few decent incoming transfers!Nothing to say we wouldn’t add to the squad , and surely even then if we were still under the embargo - the wage cap would be more than we have now , leaving us to pick up a few bargains!I’d be confident to Be outside the relegation zone nearing January, especially with weaker teams like Wycombe, coventry and Rotherham!!1 -
If it is true as reported, that the EFL wanted the punishment this season, surely they should appeal.3
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sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.We pulled up trees the start of last season with a weaker team, and whilst we have lost players like Taylor and Sarr - I would argue we’re roughly where we started last season , barring a few decent incoming transfers!Nothing to say we wouldn’t add to the squad , and surely even then if we were still under the embargo - the wage cap would be more than we have now , leaving us to pick up a few bargains!I’d be confident to Be outside the relegation zone nearing January, especially with weaker teams like Wycombe, coventry and Rotherham!!Surely you must think our current squad will gain promotion from League One with relative ease?The start of last season we had a fully fit squad, a largely unknown style and Taylor, Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Cullen, Matthews and Field - we still got relegated.1 -
ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.We pulled up trees the start of last season with a weaker team, and whilst we have lost players like Taylor and Sarr - I would argue we’re roughly where we started last season , barring a few decent incoming transfers!Nothing to say we wouldn’t add to the squad , and surely even then if we were still under the embargo - the wage cap would be more than we have now , leaving us to pick up a few bargains!I’d be confident to Be outside the relegation zone nearing January, especially with weaker teams like Wycombe, coventry and Rotherham!!Surely you must think our current squad will gain promotion from League One with relative ease?The start of last season we had a fully fit squad, a largely unknown style and Taylor, Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Cullen, Matthews and Field - we still got relegated.
But for the sake of your argument, yes if we could play in League One with the squad that just finished the season along with the signings made so far i'd be very confident of promotion.0 -
SWFC want the points deduction moved into the 18/19 season where they finished 24 points clear of relegation.
Given that the Championship doesn’t dish out prize money based on final league standings, it would effectively render the punishment pointless.
They want to have their cake and eat it. And I wouldn’t put it past the EFL to let them get away with it.I know our club is sitting in the hands of shysters but they’re not (sporting) cheats and not a single section of our fanbase is siding with ESI. Rather than playing victim on another team’s forum, I’d feel embarrassed if I was a Wednesday fan.On that point, talk of an agenda is almost comical. SWFC haven’t been relevant since the 20th century so why would the EFL treat you any differently to the 71 other member clubs?4 -
Whilst it is unlikely the EFL would do anything that gave them any difficulty, surely it is a dangerous game Wednesday wanting the punishment brought forward.1
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MartinCAFC said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.We pulled up trees the start of last season with a weaker team, and whilst we have lost players like Taylor and Sarr - I would argue we’re roughly where we started last season , barring a few decent incoming transfers!Nothing to say we wouldn’t add to the squad , and surely even then if we were still under the embargo - the wage cap would be more than we have now , leaving us to pick up a few bargains!I’d be confident to Be outside the relegation zone nearing January, especially with weaker teams like Wycombe, coventry and Rotherham!!Surely you must think our current squad will gain promotion from League One with relative ease?The start of last season we had a fully fit squad, a largely unknown style and Taylor, Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Cullen, Matthews and Field - we still got relegated.
But for the sake of your argument, yes if we could play in League One with the squad that just finished the season along with the signings made so far i'd be very confident of promotion.It’s been said a million times before, but one more won’t hurt - we scraped finishing third, scraped through the play-offs and got promoted with a team that would quite comfortably beat our team last season or this season.I don’t know how we would stay up in the Championship with a worse team that just got relegated from the Championship.1 -
ElliotCAFC said:MartinCAFC said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.We pulled up trees the start of last season with a weaker team, and whilst we have lost players like Taylor and Sarr - I would argue we’re roughly where we started last season , barring a few decent incoming transfers!Nothing to say we wouldn’t add to the squad , and surely even then if we were still under the embargo - the wage cap would be more than we have now , leaving us to pick up a few bargains!I’d be confident to Be outside the relegation zone nearing January, especially with weaker teams like Wycombe, coventry and Rotherham!!Surely you must think our current squad will gain promotion from League One with relative ease?The start of last season we had a fully fit squad, a largely unknown style and Taylor, Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Cullen, Matthews and Field - we still got relegated.
But for the sake of your argument, yes if we could play in League One with the squad that just finished the season along with the signings made so far i'd be very confident of promotion.It’s been said a million times before, but one more won’t hurt - we scraped finishing third, scraped through the play-offs and got promoted with a team that would quite comfortably beat our team last season or this season.I don’t know how we would stay up in the Championship with a worse team that just got relegated from the Championship.
The play offs we were deserved winners even if we had to do it the hard way.
Personally I think the three going up from League One won't pose much trouble in The Championship next season. Wycombe were 10th was it before lockdown?
Would we really have a worse team than the one that got relegated? probably a separate debate from this thread but assuming TS can buy the club and restrictions are lifted i'd certainly be confident of finishing above three of Luton, Barnsley, Rotherham, Coventry, Wycombe.1 - Sponsored links:
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ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.We pulled up trees the start of last season with a weaker team, and whilst we have lost players like Taylor and Sarr - I would argue we’re roughly where we started last season , barring a few decent incoming transfers!Nothing to say we wouldn’t add to the squad , and surely even then if we were still under the embargo - the wage cap would be more than we have now , leaving us to pick up a few bargains!I’d be confident to Be outside the relegation zone nearing January, especially with weaker teams like Wycombe, coventry and Rotherham!!Surely you must think our current squad will gain promotion from League One with relative ease?The start of last season we had a fully fit squad, a largely unknown style and Taylor, Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Cullen, Matthews and Field - we still got relegated.3 -
Clarky said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.We pulled up trees the start of last season with a weaker team, and whilst we have lost players like Taylor and Sarr - I would argue we’re roughly where we started last season , barring a few decent incoming transfers!Nothing to say we wouldn’t add to the squad , and surely even then if we were still under the embargo - the wage cap would be more than we have now , leaving us to pick up a few bargains!I’d be confident to Be outside the relegation zone nearing January, especially with weaker teams like Wycombe, coventry and Rotherham!!Surely you must think our current squad will gain promotion from League One with relative ease?The start of last season we had a fully fit squad, a largely unknown style and Taylor, Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Cullen, Matthews and Field - we still got relegated.0 -
Clarky said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.We pulled up trees the start of last season with a weaker team, and whilst we have lost players like Taylor and Sarr - I would argue we’re roughly where we started last season , barring a few decent incoming transfers!Nothing to say we wouldn’t add to the squad , and surely even then if we were still under the embargo - the wage cap would be more than we have now , leaving us to pick up a few bargains!I’d be confident to Be outside the relegation zone nearing January, especially with weaker teams like Wycombe, coventry and Rotherham!!Surely you must think our current squad will gain promotion from League One with relative ease?The start of last season we had a fully fit squad, a largely unknown style and Taylor, Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Cullen, Matthews and Field - we still got relegated.4 -
MartinCAFC said:ElliotCAFC said:MartinCAFC said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:sammy391 said:ElliotCAFC said:It took nearly a year to reach a verdict, I can’t see them accepting an appeal and finalising a decision within days.We don’t want to be back in the Championship at this point, the moment has passed. We’re a worse squad than the one that got relegated.With the new salary caps it would be a legal minefield to swap two teams at this stage.
season tickets would be a larger amount too, and with TS possibly concluding a deal within the next two weeks we would have time to sign players- especially if the transfer window doesn’t shut until mid October!The EFL will stall this for as long as possible, just like they did the first time round. In theory, there’s nothing wrong with the decision, they have been punished - just not during the timeframe Charlton fans want as it benefits the club.We’ll be battered week in, week out until TS upgrades the squad exponentially. I genuinely think it’s better for the club to restructure in League One and come back stronger, rather than being the Championship whipping boys for a season.We pulled up trees the start of last season with a weaker team, and whilst we have lost players like Taylor and Sarr - I would argue we’re roughly where we started last season , barring a few decent incoming transfers!Nothing to say we wouldn’t add to the squad , and surely even then if we were still under the embargo - the wage cap would be more than we have now , leaving us to pick up a few bargains!I’d be confident to Be outside the relegation zone nearing January, especially with weaker teams like Wycombe, coventry and Rotherham!!Surely you must think our current squad will gain promotion from League One with relative ease?The start of last season we had a fully fit squad, a largely unknown style and Taylor, Sarr, Gallagher, Leko, Cullen, Matthews and Field - we still got relegated.
But for the sake of your argument, yes if we could play in League One with the squad that just finished the season along with the signings made so far i'd be very confident of promotion.It’s been said a million times before, but one more won’t hurt - we scraped finishing third, scraped through the play-offs and got promoted with a team that would quite comfortably beat our team last season or this season.I don’t know how we would stay up in the Championship with a worse team that just got relegated from the Championship.
The play offs we were deserved winners even if we had to do it the hard way.
Personally I think the three going up from League One won't pose much trouble in The Championship next season. Wycombe were 10th was it before lockdown?
Would we really have a worse team than the one that got relegated? probably a separate debate from this thread but assuming TS can buy the club and restrictions are lifted i'd certainly be confident of finishing above three of Luton, Barnsley, Rotherham, Coventry, Wycombe.
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It’s in the top hard basket for the EFL now. They doing what they always do no reply to emails and hoping it will go away. Perhaps if we get a decent owner we can sue them for loss of revenue.0
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@operationpig Pull the other one, it's got bells on
Your owner vastly overstated the value of your ground
The purchase was backdated to the previous year to skirt round the losses made in that FY
He puts money into your club through companies that don't actually exist
You got away with it. If I were you, I'd be fucking embarrassed enough about that to keep quiet.13 -
in The Sun article is said the Indpenedent Commission did not want to strip the 12 points because it was too late in the season and they would not be able to fight their way out of it. What about poor old Wigan and Maclesfield ? They cheated and deserved relegation. I think TS would bankroll us in the championship to have a decent squad.0
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If the EFL ran the legal system! Ok Fred West, we will give you 100 meters start and if we don't catch you we will let you off!3
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Callumcafc said:SWFC want the points deduction moved into the 18/19 season where they finished 24 points clear of relegation.
Given that the Championship doesn’t dish out prize money based on final league standings, it would effectively render the punishment pointless.
They want to have their cake and eat it. And I wouldn’t put it past the EFL to let them get away with it.I know our club is sitting in the hands of shysters but they’re not (sporting) cheats and not a single section of our fanbase is siding with ESI. Rather than playing victim on another team’s forum, I’d feel embarrassed if I was a Wednesday fan.On that point, talk of an agenda is almost comical. SWFC haven’t been relevant since the 20th century so why would the EFL treat you any differently to the 71 other member clubs?15 -
Northupper said:Callumcafc said:SWFC want the points deduction moved into the 18/19 season where they finished 24 points clear of relegation.
Given that the Championship doesn’t dish out prize money based on final league standings, it would effectively render the punishment pointless.
They want to have their cake and eat it. And I wouldn’t put it past the EFL to let them get away with it.I know our club is sitting in the hands of shysters but they’re not (sporting) cheats and not a single section of our fanbase is siding with ESI. Rather than playing victim on another team’s forum, I’d feel embarrassed if I was a Wednesday fan.On that point, talk of an agenda is almost comical. SWFC haven’t been relevant since the 20th century so why would the EFL treat you any differently to the 71 other member clubs?
A hard lesson also for Wednesday's arrogant owner that excessive hubris in pursuing a weak appeal can be very counter-productive.5 - Sponsored links:
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If only the EFL had a pair.0
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MuttleyCAFC said:If only the EFL had a pair.0
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MuttleyCAFC said:If only the EFL had a pair.
Sheffield Wednesday and Derby.
And you can count on the Football League getting both wrong.1 -
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Quel surprise! No balls whatsoever!0
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Nah not surprised either - Imagine trying to sort out the EFL Trophy now?
Sheffield Wednesday wouldnt go into the Southern Draw in our place and wont just be a case of moving another Northern team down instead, as with League One / League Two teams they try to do the draw so that those teams dont have to do too much travelling0 -
Well just have to do a Sheffield United and get compensation eventually. Weren't they fobbed off for years but eventually got compensation years after?4
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We'll just have to go for compensation now then.0
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Great - that makes my six-page draft letter a complete waste of time... Absolutely spineless are those on the EFL board.0
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ForeverAddickted said:Nah not surprised either - Imagine trying to sort out the EFL Trophy now?
Sheffield Wednesday wouldnt go into the Southern Draw in our place and wont just be a case of moving another Northern team down instead, as with League One / League Two teams they try to do the draw so that those teams dont have to do too much travelling
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