Orpington Buses Crash (from Nov 2019)
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O-Randy-Hunt said:
Jailed for 2 years at 18. Now at 21 and he still managed to pass a crb test and get a minicab licence from TFL to drive the public around. Interesting.SantaClaus said:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/teenager-jailed-two-years-after-15123392.amp
I think this is the same guy.
Either it isn't the same person or the reported ages are incorrect. Suspect it's the latter.0 -
if he's a Kosovan, they are like the white rhino, a VERY protected species .. the ??? is WHY ?O-Randy-Hunt said:
Jailed for 2 years at 18. Now at 21 and he still managed to pass a crb test and get a minicab licence from TFL to drive the public around. Interesting.SantaClaus said:https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/teenager-jailed-two-years-after-15123392.amp
I think this is the same guy.
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I'm with you in theory, in practice though builders would quite rightly claim that they were being put out of business by unqualified interlopers. After all, I'm sure you would be unhappy if it was declared that they should work as unpaid financial advisors.golfaddick said:
But why should we have the expense of having to house & feed him for xx no of years. That's our taxes that are paying for that.Baldybonce said:
And he’ll be back a month later under a different name. A lengthy prison sentence with no early release, then deported.golfaddick said:
Having read the link & now knowing who he is & think it would be much better to just deport him.ElfsborgAddick said:
Perhaps @golfaddick had the right idea.soapy_jones said:Life is a total shitter. We share this planet with specimins like Dorjan Cera and it is an unjust lottery whether we or our loved ones lives are decimated by them and changed forever.
You see these twats everyday on the road. In forty years of driving i am at the conclusion that you are there not just taking care of yourself but driving for every other idiot on the road.
Jail the useless selfesh ignorant little fucker and everyone be safe out there.
Probably cant but that wouldn't stop me. Put him on the next flight back to Albania.
I wrote in my English O level paper 37 years ago that prisoners should be made to work.....like the old chain gangs. Make them really PAY for their crimes. Build new roads & hospitals.
It would be good if there were some public tasks they could take on, but I'm struggling to think of any that wouldn't be more trouble to manage properly than they're worth.0 -
Also it’s not the best of ideas to give prisoners tools, stabbing or other bludgeoning type instruments.Stig said:
I'm with you in theory, in practice though builders would quite rightly claim that they were being put out of business by unqualified interlopers. After all, I'm sure you would be unhappy if it was declared that they should work as unpaid financial advisors.golfaddick said:
But why should we have the expense of having to house & feed him for xx no of years. That's our taxes that are paying for that.Baldybonce said:
And he’ll be back a month later under a different name. A lengthy prison sentence with no early release, then deported.golfaddick said:
Having read the link & now knowing who he is & think it would be much better to just deport him.ElfsborgAddick said:
Perhaps @golfaddick had the right idea.soapy_jones said:Life is a total shitter. We share this planet with specimins like Dorjan Cera and it is an unjust lottery whether we or our loved ones lives are decimated by them and changed forever.
You see these twats everyday on the road. In forty years of driving i am at the conclusion that you are there not just taking care of yourself but driving for every other idiot on the road.
Jail the useless selfesh ignorant little fucker and everyone be safe out there.
Probably cant but that wouldn't stop me. Put him on the next flight back to Albania.
I wrote in my English O level paper 37 years ago that prisoners should be made to work.....like the old chain gangs. Make them really PAY for their crimes. Build new roads & hospitals.
It would be good if there were some public tasks they could take on, but I'm struggling to think of any that wouldn't be more trouble to manage properly than they're worth.
It also comes down to cost, there ain’t enough money washing around to do what we do now.0 -
like this .. except no armed guards ((:>)golfaddick said:
But why should we have the expense of having to house & feed him for xx no of years. That's our taxes that are paying for that.Baldybonce said:
And he’ll be back a month later under a different name. A lengthy prison sentence with no early release, then deported.golfaddick said:
Having read the link & now knowing who he is & think it would be much better to just deport him.ElfsborgAddick said:
Perhaps @golfaddick had the right idea.soapy_jones said:Life is a total shitter. We share this planet with specimins like Dorjan Cera and it is an unjust lottery whether we or our loved ones lives are decimated by them and changed forever.
You see these twats everyday on the road. In forty years of driving i am at the conclusion that you are there not just taking care of yourself but driving for every other idiot on the road.
Jail the useless selfesh ignorant little fucker and everyone be safe out there.
Probably cant but that wouldn't stop me. Put him on the next flight back to Albania.
I wrote in my English O level paper 37 years ago that prisoners should be made to work.....like the old chain gangs. Make them really PAY for their crimes. Build new roads & hospitals.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippi_State_Penitentiary
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Set him to work on finishing the Elizabeth line and then he can have a go at HS2.1
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You have to look long term. It might be a cost now but in 10/15/20 years time it will be a saving.charltonkeston said:
Also it’s not the best of ideas to give prisoners tools, stabbing or other bludgeoning type instruments.Stig said:
I'm with you in theory, in practice though builders would quite rightly claim that they were being put out of business by unqualified interlopers. After all, I'm sure you would be unhappy if it was declared that they should work as unpaid financial advisors.golfaddick said:
But why should we have the expense of having to house & feed him for xx no of years. That's our taxes that are paying for that.Baldybonce said:
And he’ll be back a month later under a different name. A lengthy prison sentence with no early release, then deported.golfaddick said:
Having read the link & now knowing who he is & think it would be much better to just deport him.ElfsborgAddick said:
Perhaps @golfaddick had the right idea.soapy_jones said:Life is a total shitter. We share this planet with specimins like Dorjan Cera and it is an unjust lottery whether we or our loved ones lives are decimated by them and changed forever.
You see these twats everyday on the road. In forty years of driving i am at the conclusion that you are there not just taking care of yourself but driving for every other idiot on the road.
Jail the useless selfesh ignorant little fucker and everyone be safe out there.
Probably cant but that wouldn't stop me. Put him on the next flight back to Albania.
I wrote in my English O level paper 37 years ago that prisoners should be made to work.....like the old chain gangs. Make them really PAY for their crimes. Build new roads & hospitals.
It would be good if there were some public tasks they could take on, but I'm struggling to think of any that wouldn't be more trouble to manage properly than they're worth.
It also comes down to cost, there ain’t enough money washing around to do what we do now.
Otherwise just lock them up. Give then 20 years with no omissions.0 -
When was the the last time this country took a long term view on anything?golfaddick said:
You have to look long term. It might be a cost now but in 10/15/20 years time it will be a saving.charltonkeston said:
Also it’s not the best of ideas to give prisoners tools, stabbing or other bludgeoning type instruments.Stig said:
I'm with you in theory, in practice though builders would quite rightly claim that they were being put out of business by unqualified interlopers. After all, I'm sure you would be unhappy if it was declared that they should work as unpaid financial advisors.golfaddick said:
But why should we have the expense of having to house & feed him for xx no of years. That's our taxes that are paying for that.Baldybonce said:
And he’ll be back a month later under a different name. A lengthy prison sentence with no early release, then deported.golfaddick said:
Having read the link & now knowing who he is & think it would be much better to just deport him.ElfsborgAddick said:
Perhaps @golfaddick had the right idea.soapy_jones said:Life is a total shitter. We share this planet with specimins like Dorjan Cera and it is an unjust lottery whether we or our loved ones lives are decimated by them and changed forever.
You see these twats everyday on the road. In forty years of driving i am at the conclusion that you are there not just taking care of yourself but driving for every other idiot on the road.
Jail the useless selfesh ignorant little fucker and everyone be safe out there.
Probably cant but that wouldn't stop me. Put him on the next flight back to Albania.
I wrote in my English O level paper 37 years ago that prisoners should be made to work.....like the old chain gangs. Make them really PAY for their crimes. Build new roads & hospitals.
It would be good if there were some public tasks they could take on, but I'm struggling to think of any that wouldn't be more trouble to manage properly than they're worth.
It also comes down to cost, there ain’t enough money washing around to do what we do now.
Otherwise just lock them up. Give then 20 years with no omissions.
It would be nice but governments are only interested in getting re-elected.1 -
I seem to have clicked on the Daily Mail comments section by mistake ...... wheres the "back" button.6
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A man has admitted killing a bus driver and injuring seven other people in a crash last Halloween in Orpington, south east London.
Cera, 20, pleaded guilty at the Old Bailey on Friday to causing Mr Matcham's death by dangerous driving.
Judge Wendy Joseph adjourned sentencing until 6 August at the same court.
Cera, of Hillingdon, also admitted seven further counts of causing injury by dangerous driving, being unlicensed and uninsured and possession of an identity document with improper intent.
He was remanded into custody.
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Scariest thing is, there are thousands more scumbags like that!clive said:A man has admitted killing a bus driver and injuring seven other people in a crash last Halloween in Orpington, south east London.Cera, 20, pleaded guilty at the Old Bailey on Friday to causing Mr Matcham's death by dangerous driving.
Judge Wendy Joseph adjourned sentencing until 6 August at the same court.
Cera, of Hillingdon, also admitted seven further counts of causing injury by dangerous driving, being unlicensed and uninsured and possession of an identity document with improper intent.
He was remanded into custody.
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Be out in less than 4.
Crazy.0 -
Disgustingly short sentence, I hope the CPS appeal, and the Disqualification should be for life, or at the very least start from date of release........ scum.4
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I’m assuming the sub human parasite was born over here or he’d be deported at the end of his sentence.1
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I would bet money that he was not born here and I am 100% with you re the deportation.DaveMehmet said:I’m assuming the sub human parasite was born over here or he’d be deported at the end of his sentence.1 -
Unfortunately many people (including him I would bet) don’t care if they have a licence anyway, so highly unlikely to stop himbexleyaddick said:Disgustingly short sentence, I hope the CPS appeal, and the Disqualification should be for life, or at the very least start from date of release........ scum.2 -
Drug dealer jailed for crash that killed London bus driver
A convicted drug dealer who killed a bus driver and injured 14 people in a multi-vehicle crash has been jailed for seven years and eight months.
The court heard Cera had arrived in the UK from Albania at the age of 15 and had unsuccessfully sought asylum since.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-53934215
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Cannot get cnuts like that out of this country quick enough in my opinion. Unfortunately we are the silent majority!3
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Hardly silent since you just said it.soapy_jones said:Cannot get cnuts like that out of this country quick enough in my opinion. Unfortunately we are the silent majority!
And as it happens I think he should be deported too4 -
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Touche, comrade.Henry Irving said:
Hardly silent since you just said it.soapy_jones said:Cannot get cnuts like that out of this country quick enough in my opinion. Unfortunately we are the silent majority!
And as it happens I think he should be deported too0 -
Sought asylum from Albania? I'm going on holiday thereclive said:Drug dealer jailed for crash that killed London bus driver
A convicted drug dealer who killed a bus driver and injured 14 people in a multi-vehicle crash has been jailed for seven years and eight months.
The court heard Cera had arrived in the UK from Albania at the age of 15 and had unsuccessfully sought asylum since.
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The aftermath of the crash was featured in the BBC programme 'Ambulance' shown this week, for those that missed it https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000n82b/ambulance-series-6-episode-52
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I saw this. Really brought home how serious this was. I had gotten off the 358 two minutes before the crash.clive said:The aftermath of the crash was featured in the BBC programme 'Ambulance' shown this week, for those that missed it https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000n82b/ambulance-series-6-episode-50 -
Sliding doors moment.up_the_valley said:
I saw this. Really brought home how serious this was. I had gotten off the 358 two minutes before the crash.clive said:The aftermath of the crash was featured in the BBC programme 'Ambulance' shown this week, for those that missed it https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000n82b/ambulance-series-6-episode-50 -
Watched it. Was horrible. Brought home how much these incidents affect the crews who attend as well.
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Watching this at the moment, really does show how much respect the Paramedics deserve3
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Grew up off that road. Bloody horrific watching that. RIP0
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Watched it tonight, absolutely horrendous.
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